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Title: The Observer’s Calendar for June 2024

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Description: The Actual Astronomy Podcast presents The Observer’s Calendar for June 2024.  In this episode we’ll talk about Asteroids, Lunar X and Straight wall plus Alister’s Anomalous Moon For June.

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Okie dokey. You want to count down? 3 to one.

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The observers calendar for June, 2024 on episode 429 of the actual astronomy podcast.

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I’m Chris and joining me. Shane, we are amateur astronomers who love looking up the night sky and this podcast is for everybody who enjoys going out under the stars.

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So we get a few planets coming back in the sky in the morning. This month, Shane, and but we’re under perpetual Twilight, I think starting in about 2 weeks time, I guess.

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Yeah, we are. We are getting to that point where it doesn’t really get too dark or not real dark.

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And, you know, the darkest point of the night is you gotta stay up pretty late for that too.

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So that’s another challenge, but. I guess we also have some knocked a loose and cloud season in front of us, which is kind of neat.

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I haven’t You know, those things are so unpredictable and I remember 2 or 3 years ago it seemed like I don’t know every second or 3rd night there is some level of noctalucine activity.

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And then last year, I don’t really remember seeing it at all. And I haven’t seen any this year, so who knows?

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Nope. Yeah, yeah, I think it was, 2 or 3 years ago. We had quite a bit.

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I think in 2021. There was a lot. Cause I don’t think I’ve ever seen it from out here at the, where the observatory is.

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I’ve never seen it from the observatory yet anyway. So that’s a year anyway before since we’ve had.

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I don’t think we have much the year before, but 2021 we had a ton. Some I was standing upstairs at home looking at it out the window.

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It was like night after night there for a few weeks almost.

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Yeah it was.

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Some nights it was a lot, some nights it was just a little bit. Some nights I’d look and say, is that an art to losing clad?

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I don’t think so. It must be like pollution and then Like I go and watch TV or go to bed, then you have micoser texting me.

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It’s all good.

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Yeah, like it, it, you know, we’ve been talking a lot about the big aurora burst, that recently happened, but if you get a, like a real intense knock to loosen cloud.

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Event. It’s pretty cool too. Like it’s, it’s not the same or comparable to Aurora, but it, it kind of captivates you in a similar way.

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So if you’ve never seen them and have an opportunity to see them, it’s it’s worth your time.

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Yeah, so what are they exactly? These knocked loose and clouds and when can people see them and where can people see them?

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Well, yeah, so I think the what is still up for debate a little bit in terms of you know the cause or what they really are but

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I think it’s isn’t it like mostly like mic meteorites that enter in the atmosphere and they’re floating around as like dust particles way up high like 70,000 feet or something like that and they gradually get code a little bit of moisture which causes them to reflect because the sun is still above the horizon from the distance.

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Something like that.

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Yeah, I don’t know. Has that been confirmed? I know that that’s been one of the theories.

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Not sure.

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I think I think they’re pretty close to saying that’s what it is. I think they ran a spectrum off them and they were able to figure it out so

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Cool. So yeah, you can see these at this time of the year. After sunset so you know darkness is creeping in but probably about that 1st 30 to maybe 60 min after sunset is the most common time and you’ll see them in the north and they just they look like It sort of looks like illuminated clouds kind of almost like you would see at sunset.

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It’s just when you think about the time of the night and that it’s in the north it doesn’t really make sense and You know what it is is the sun doesn’t set very low so while we can’t see the sun it some of its light can still reach the upper atmosphere, which lights up these noctiluent clouds and then what I think they typically move east to west or some sort of weird motion

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or something like that. I can’t remember.

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Yeah, it’s sort of the opposite. Yeah, you’re right. Yeah, pretty cool.

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Yeah, people should be on the lookout for those typically from, 1st of June until about.

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Mid july you gotta vote 5 or 6 weeks there to see them. So yeah, that’s good point.

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I didn’t put that in the notes. So thank you so much for that.

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Planets this month, we got Mercury, it’s in the West Northwest in the evening, Twilight, late this month, but not really that visible.

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And then Venus is extremely low in the Northwest in the evening. After sunset, but I don’t think those ones are.

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Or anything to write home about. And probably difficult to observe anyway from here. I don’t even think we can get them just because it’s so bright at this time of year.

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But Mars is now rising just before 2 am in the East Northeast and it’s in the east at dawn.

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So it’s getting up there. Jupiter is well. Not too far from Mars. And then, Saturn is pretty high.

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It’s starting to get high in the morning sky now this month. Shane.

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Hmm, well that’s exciting. It’s fun to have the planets returning. Do you know how large Mars is right now?

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No, shouldn’t be.

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I don’t think it’s that large. I could go and check the software here, but it did.

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It’s we got this that recording going but I think that it’s it’s just starting to get high and once the opposition it’s still like about 9 months away I think from opposition.

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Yeah, still a little challenging, but. Good to hear that it’s coming.

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So yeah, I think opposition is like in January or something like that so Okay. Yeah. Yeah, start to get good in the fall.

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But anybody, you know, people can start observing it now. Be cool Jupiter. Probably just starting to get high enough towards the end of the month to observe.

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And then Saturday, like this is kind of when you can start observing Saturn in the morning sky.

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You have to set your alarm chain and get up and do some morning astronomy.

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Yeah, sure.

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Not gonna happen. Yeah. Not gonna happen here. I’ll be up.

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I’ll be going. Maybe, maybe I’ll get 2 scopes going. I think I’m gonna try to put both my telescopes up in the observatory in the mountain.

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June second, the moon is at perjury, which is the closest point to the earth being 300 6,800 kilometers away or 228.

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100,000 miles away. So June 3rd asteroid 43 arid didn’t mean is that opposition at 99.1 not really familiar with this 1 43 a RIAD and E Erridney.

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Hmm, yeah, I’ve never heard of that one before.

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Yeah, that’s probably it. Second largest member of the floor, asteroid family.

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Discovered by Pogson on April 15, th 1857 named after the Greek heroine, Ariadne.

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And almost twice as long as it is wide, it’s bilobed. And has a retro greed or a bit although the poles point almost parallel towards the eclipse at all times.

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So sort of like a strange little asteroid that people can go and take a look at. So I get it.

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You know what I’m gonna try to do is I’m gonna try to build like a little, server like a little Linux server that I can attach to my mount.

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And then maybe I can hunt down some of these. Asteroids would be pretty cool.

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What do you need the server for?

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Well, just to like to be able to pinpoint them and to be able to guide their because I don’t think it’s in the hand controller or whatever and it’s like you know.

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Slewing around with that thing. But yeah, yeah, just to.

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No, no, yeah, yeah. Can you connect your phone to it? Do you Sky Safari?

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Yeah, but you need so here’s here’s the thing with the mount is that you need to have some sort of Wi-Fi dongle.

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So you can buy a Wi-Fi dongle. From Skywatcher, unplugged the hand controller, plug the Wi-Fi dongle in and then you can use a smartphone.

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Which would be okay. I’ve done this before. I’m not a big fan. Because I’d like to be able to use the hand paddle on the hand controller, not on a phone because it works well with gloves on.

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Even last night, you know, it was like when Mike left it was only like 6 degrees and it was blowing like 30 kilometers an hour.

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So I had my gloves off but I was just starting to get cold. So I’d like to be able to use my gloves in the hand controller.

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So in order to have the hand controller and Wi-Fi, you have to kind of either make or build a device that plugs into the hand, control it to give you that functionality.

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So that’s what I’m gonna do. I have all kinds of spare parts around. I’m gonna I’m just gonna cobble one together.

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If I ever get some free time at work because I need to use my work monitor for that.

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So that’s my plan anyway, maybe take a look at some of these asteroids when we’re in that perpetual Twilight.

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Yeah, gotta make good use. Of my time. June 6th is the new moon and I think really by sort of that June 6, th June 12, th like we are.

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Running out of dark skies. I think that I think around the end of the 1st week beginning of the second week beginning of the second week of June.

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We still get about an hour or so but There’s like one night we got like 40 min and the next night we get like or a half seconds.

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And that’s, and that’s really it for about, just about a month there, I think.

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If I’m not mistaken, but the petrol Twilight is cool to see. Have you ever watched it?

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Yeah, it’s kinda neat just to watch like that soft glow sort of transition from west to east.

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It’s kinda neat.

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It is. It is really cool. So after I moved here and I knew we would have perpetual Twilight.

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Mike and I went up to that hilltop. We used to observe outside the Moose Jaw. And we, stood on the hill and observed, we observed all 9, basically, which isn’t, sounds like it’s going to be a long time, but it’s a few hours, you know, we get out there at like 10 and left it.

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3 and you know so it’s like 5 h of anything like darkness and yeah we watched that glow You know, it’s like a little bit of sunset and sort of had that orangey tint to it.

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The orange tint never a hundred percent left. And and it’s sort of settled into the north-northwest and then gradually crept around to the north and then it was really a strange strange thing to see but we could still observe I mean we observed like even like pretty faint nebulae down into Scorpius and that but man it’s it’s a short period of time that you can.

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Observe there’s about. 2 h that you can kind of sort of observe and that’s that’s even a degree further south from where I’m at now.

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Here it definitely stays too bright for. For, you know, about. A week on either side of the solstice.

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You really can’t, you can’t do it past the 13th of. June and and the 28th is the 1st night that you can.

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That you can observe here and get like a good solid couple of hours. So I digress. But Lunar X is visible on June

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What is the lunar X? Clare obscure.

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You are a winner!

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I’ve finally learned what it is. But what what the lunar X is it’s the crater Werner and I think another one and it’s just the way that the shadows or the sunlight lands on the tops of the lunar craters and creates this this X effect.

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And I had been wondering a few months ago if I had this right in the observer’s calendar.

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So I went out and other people went out and we observed it for a few months in a row and did confirm that so These are the right dates that I’m using here.

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This is all from the observers calendar, which I’m the editor of. So I should ship it that in here somewhere as well.

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And the regular June, the 14th lunar straight wall is visible. That was another one. We I was looking at that.

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That’s really cool.

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Yeah, that’s a fun one too. Any of these are kind of interesting and the same night that the lunar X is visible, there’s also a lunar V on the Terminator that I think is I think it’s north of the X if I’m not mistaken.

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So when you’re out, look for that one as well. If you’re, if you, if you see the X, look for the V.

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Yeah, the lunar street wall, it’s a, it’s a fault line and it’s about a hundred 10 kilometers long.

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So it’s just a little bit longer than the lake that I’m on. L’s about 90 something kilometers long.

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So it’s kind of cool to think that You can, if you were on the moon looking back, not only would you be terrified that you’re on the moon without a spacecraft, but you would also maybe if you had a telescope be able to see the leak that I’m on during the day.

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Pretty cool. Moon is at Apogee. It’s the furthest. Of the year at 404.

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1,000 kilometers away from us. On the So there you go. I put the parity in Apagene because I didn’t think I was going to have as much in these notes this month, but we have a fair bit.

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Summer solstice is on the And then the the full moon is on the 21st which is awesome because Our full moon is landing really close to the summer solstice so it’s it’s a bit of a it’s a bit of a time when we can’t do any deep ski observing here anyway so it’s really great when the full.

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Moon lines up but. Here’s I think we should need we should have a Regular column.

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In in these. Observer calendars. This is Alister’s anomaly of the month.

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Did you read this email? It’s fantastic.

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No, I have not read this one yet. Yeah, yeah.

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So, so I noticed something peculiar. I notice this just because. So I wanted to get this mount set up and running and tested and so I was trying to figure, okay, when am I gonna have dark enough skies because with the, with you need to use like the alignment stars and blah blah blah to do the alignment on the telescope and to test it and everything.

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It’s nice to be able to test it on some deep sky objects. When the moon is full, of course, it’s washing up the sky.

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Pretty horribly so. Okay. So the moon was full on Thursday, I think it was Wednesday morning or Thursday, give or take.

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And I looked and by Friday we already had like more than an hour of darkness. And I was like, Whoa, like what is going on?

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And by Saturday, like last night, we did almost well. We did 3 h, though. 2 h in total darkness.

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And I was like, whoa. So Alistair wrote this email. He said in case you have’t done your June calendar yet, which I hadn’t when I received these notes, it was good timing.

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Most of us have heard the saying. Full moon rises at 7 set and sets at sunrise.

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And when you think about it, it makes sense because the moon is opposite the sun. And yeah, I’ve probably even said that on the podcast at least a hundred times.

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Shane But this month in Edmonton, the full moon riots is. Barely before midnight and sets just after 4 a.

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M. What is truly super, ha ha, about this full moon is that it is super low. Here’s why.

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The moon’s orbit is tilted a bit more than 5 degrees to the eclipse, allowing the moon to be much lower or much higher than the eclipse.

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It’s an 18 year cycle and this year we’re at the extreme. People love extreme stuff these days too.

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I hear it’s very popular amongst the youth. When the moon goes through Sagittarius, it will be way lower.

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Then the planets ever go for us in the northern hemisphere, this means it rises much further south than the winter sun and takes a really low arc across the south.

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Likely staying yellow in color for its short night. For this summer star party the 1st quarter moon will be close to that point in Sagittarius setting before it gets dark really skewing the classic new moon plus or minus 3 days for the dark window.

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PS the opposite is true in December when the full moon is way north of the eclipse.

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Alister. Fantastic. This is awesome. I wondered what the heck was going on.

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So it’s not I thought it was something to do with like the lunar and aima maybe a bit of the cycle but and that, you know, just maybe because it’s full at this particular point in the Analima.

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That and what the Analima is, it’s basically this figure 8 that the sun and the moon passed through in the night sky.

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Of course, the sun does it over the course of a year. The moon does it over the course of the month.

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And the moon is going to be full and New at different stages and then Analima depending on where it is in the orbit around the Earth.

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I thought it was just that which Sina makes sense to me and maybe that does play into it to a certain extent as well.

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But Alistair saying that it’s not necessarily just that, it is also this 18 year cycle which brings it particularly low I put a graph again at the top of the notes there and you can see it’s sitting just almost into the spout.

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It’s below the, the top of Sagittarius. It’s almost in the spout.

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Of the Constellation Segetary, so the Teapot of Sagittarius.

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That’s super, super low. I’m I’m very excited for this. I watched it last night.

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It it took forever to rise even though it rises sort of up out of the valley. So, but it came up and then it was super orange and Yeah, yeah, and I watched it set the morning it was full.

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And it was so far southwest. It was wild. Yeah, it’s pretty cool to see that.

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I love watching that low. Full moon during the summer. I don’t know why. Just think it’s super pretty, especially in June.

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So had a bit of a preview of it this week, but June will be even better. So people should get out and take a look at the full moon this month.

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I think it’s really nice. Great way. Next maybe you should be sitting around having a fire again Shane and enjoying that because you won’t be doing any deep sky observing.

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No, not, not at that time. Thanks, Alister for sending that. That’s pretty cool.

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Do you, 23, the moon, Coltsiris. Minor planet Cirrus this evening and we don’t see it disappearing.

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They will in Ontario but From Ontario East they get it going in they you will see it disappear here very low.

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The 23rd it’s going to rise and just within the 1st half hour so after the moon rises here for my location anyway then we see serious reappear out from behind the moon, which, which to me, I would rather see it disappear than reappear.

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It’s less dramatic. But anyhow, people can take a look at that. Definitely if you’re east or on the eastern seaboard of the states.

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Yeah, go and try to take a look. If you’re in the eastern. Time zone and east of there.

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Then, then try to see it disappearing and reappearing. You can run your planetarium software like I did and see.

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On June 27, th Saturn. Is point 8 degrees below the moon in the morning sky. This kind of is disappointing because this aultation of Cirrus by the moon Is better to our east, whereas the moon and Saturn pairing up.

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At point degrees apart is much better once you get much further west than us. So once you get to like Alberta, it’s like a lot better.

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You can watch it in the morning sky. On the 28th we have the last corner moon and Neptune is only point 3 degrees I think just above the last quarter of moon.

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And then ISIS, 42 ISIS, which is in Australia as opposition on the 28th as well.

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I didn’t know too much about this when it’s in Sagittarius this month.

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ISIS is a minor planet. And it’s a main belt asteroid about a hundred kilometers in diameter with a stony composition discovered by Oxford astronomer.

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On the 23rd of May in 1856 it was his 1st asteroid discovery and the name was chosen by Johnson.

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In relation. Director of the Radcliffe, the relation observatory in Oxford, although ISIS is the name of an Egyptian goddess, the name was chosen in homage to Pugson’s astronomer daughter Elizabeth ISIS puncheon.

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In addition to the ISIS is a stretch of the river Teams that runs through Oxford. So a little bit of history on that.

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June, the 29th lunar Curtis Cross is visible. And on the 30, th And that following week into the 1st week of July, that is Saturn, Neptune, Ernest, Mars and Jupiter will line up in the morning sky.

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Pretty cool. Some photo ops throughout the month and it ends with a really neat one. It’s it’s always fun when the planets line up like that.

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Yeah, I forget to look up comments though. Now I’m just like people can hear me frantically typing.

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Not sure what we have. I haven’t heard of any comments. How about yourself?

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Yeah, I don’t believe that there’s any noteworthy ones although I’m seeing that.

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13 p. Could be magnitude 6. So that’s that’s something.

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Where’s that?

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Magnitude 6 is fairly bright. Let’s just see here in June. It will be kinda above Gemini.

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Between A and links.

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  1. 0, P. Alders, yeah. Yeah, it’s in Yeah, so it’s maybe it gets better because it’s in Taurus right now.

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Which is not really visible Not really, anyway. But it yeah it moves towards a rigid by the end of the month so it will eventually come around into the north because for us here anyway capella.

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Is a. So we can see it all year. So. Yeah, I’m just looking here.

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Yeah, eventually it comes into rega and it keeps heading north. So it will eventually get visible here sometime.

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Towards late June and like you were saying, magnitude 8. 2.5 coma right now, so.

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That could be pretty good.

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Yeah, well the Yeah, the Earth. The earth one here says magnitude 6 potentially, going into July too.

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It’s listing it at a 6.

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Hmm. Oh, let’s keep an eye on this 1. 0, 13 p alders.

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What the heck is this? I haven’t heard of this one so this is a very early discovery.

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By so many need, I’m guessing, because their teamp would make it. Pretty old.

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You know another one to keep an eye on here is C. 2023 8 3 session, atlas?

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It’s magnitude 8. In June. They’re saying maybe 7 in July. And then I think we lose it as it goes around the sun.

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And then towards or September, it becomes a morning comet of a potential magnitude 0.

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So that would be exceptionally bright if it survives its close encounter with the sun. So. We may have a bright comment coming, so that’s another one to watch.

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Hmm, well this one even at if it gets to 6 this 13 p olders this one’s interesting just looking at the Wikipedia appear at a common 69 years is the orbit so this one doesn’t come around that much sort of like almost a Just, slightly less than Haley’s So when was 69 years ago 70 years ago?

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So that was 50 years ago and then

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20 years from there. Would make it like 54 or something. So anyway, like the mid 50.

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Is when this comment last came around. So it’s been a while. Nobody has taken a digital image of this comment.

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Maybe they have by this time. Yeah, discovered March 6, th 1815. And reached an apparent magnitude of

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Faintly visible to naked eye. And, 1st computer orbit by Gauss. And Bissell calculated the orbit as 73.9 years but it’s 69 years now so yeah this was an early early early comic discovery Very cool.

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This one, yeah, I’m gonna go and take a look at this. I’m recovered by Strain Z and F.

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Or Alan Hale from the last Cumbrous Observatory, inciting Spring.

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So. Get real know who Alan Hill is and Yeah, so it has been recovered on its way in and expect it to brighten to about 7th magnitude, but it’s already at 8 and a half.

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So depending, I think this one could hit 6. We’ll see. Let’s see what’s happening here.

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There’s a few articles on this if you wanna, people want to read into it. Huh, cool.

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Yeah, well, hopefully.

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Good one, Shane. Off the top of your head too, I think, unless you’re hiding stuff.

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No, just a quick clicker, so, hopefully it doesn’t disappoint, you know, sometimes they can, but it’s worth keeping on your observing lists and taking a look.

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Hmm, very cool. Anything else? Any double stars on your on your radar? Can you do some double stars even during perpetual twilight?

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They should shine through. Pretty good.

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Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, that’s the beautiful thing with double stars, variable stars, even carbon stars, you know.

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The month of June while you can’t get a lot of good deep sky observing in. You know, add those objects to your list.

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Because you can observe those with lots of light pollution and, and usually be successful. The only challenge is that if you don’t have a lot of guide stars, it can be difficult to star hop to these things.

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So sometimes go to or digital setting circles are a big help during this time. So all I’ll definitely be observing all of that stuff over the I guess next probably 4 to 6 weeks is we’re in a lot of perpetual twilight.

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Yeah, I mean, speaking of, you know, I’ll tell you, since this is sort of my 1st exposure to using goto instrument.

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It is It’s like a different way of observing like just because like I found us really wanting to use the charts quite a bit for some strange reason.

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So you even went and grabbed like a wall chart stuck it up on the wall that the observatory.

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Just because like you’re like you you need to kind of look at the chart. And then plunk things into the hand controller and then have it.

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Have it go there. I was really surprised at that. Just the How are you end up using it?

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The charts are in a way like very critical, right? So yeah, and then you can kind of pan it around too.

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I could totally see with the. With this type of technology just going to a bright star and then kind of star hopping with the hand controller from there because then you can easily go back to that bright star and kind of retrace your steps, but Anyhow, the go to on it is accurate.

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Brighter objects but finding fainter objects still requires that sort of panting around I think.

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Yeah, yeah, I’ve noticed that too, even with the Nexus digital setting circles.

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You know, if you are doing anything challenging, you still want a star chart to confirm the star field.

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And then once you’ve done that, you know, you start your investigating because even with all of this great technology, sometimes it doesn’t center the object.

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So you need to know which star or you know where it should be in that field. And you know, I haven’t eliminated my star charts.

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I just don’t use them nearly as much with with the technology, but they they still have a place for sure.

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Yeah, I think like if you’re going to something bright and well known like M 13 or these messy objects for the most part like it’s just like you’re just plunking in and it’s all good but for the challenging stuff like Like the stuff that really is difficult to see.

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Then you do need to kind of start at those those bright stars and then star hop in. So it’s a different way of observing that is for sure so Here’s my challenge that I find anyway is.

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Being able to call up the stars I find pretty clunky in the sky, watch your software.

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So like what I what I want to do is to be able to figure it a way to build up the stars easier like using like I said I’m gonna build a little server and just Velcro it to the mount.

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And then have that. Help to point it to the stars because you have to flip through all the stars like I don’t know there’s probably like a thousand stars there or something like there’s no way in heck I’m gonna just like next next to get to like you know.

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2 tau or whatever I’m trying to get to.

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You know, using like I have a little bit of experience with some Goto’s. I’ve had a Celestron AVX and I’ve had their SE mounts before.

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And one thing I’ll say, you know, comparing, comparing that interface to the Nexus digital setting circles is there really is no comparison.

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The the hand paddles and you know I know they all vary like if you’re using Ioptron or Skywatcher or whatever you might have But certainly with the celestrons.

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There there is no comparison like the interface on the paddle. Is not fun. It’s not, it’s not easy to get into like, in-depth catalogs and to, like you said, you know, a thousand stars in the database, it’s hard to keep going next next next.

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But I find the Nexus unit to be just. Amazing actually at navigating through the catalogs quickly to get the object you want and then you know you press okay move the scope and there you go you’re looking at it so just a little plug for Nexus.

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I’m a big fan of those.

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Yeah. Yeah, and to be frank and I was kind of hoping, you know, get that idea is, I was kind of hoping that the like the manual auxiliary side of these 80 q 6 would work more like that.

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But it doesn’t like it would be awesome if they combine that technology with some of the other stuff like including and here’s the here’s like.

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Here’s the big gutch in why I’m doing this in case anybody is wondering is like I need Like load carrying capacity.

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Like pure and pure and simple I need to put a heavy scope on and It’s, it’s difficult to find amount that can carry.

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You know over 40 pounds we’re at 40 pounds well and Yeah, and to be able to do some of this other stuff that I want to do.

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That’s just a difficult requirement. And I wanted to run and, and Eliseima. Right?

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Cause unless you’re doing photographs. Altazima is the way to go. I think we’ve talked about that many times.

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And in at least my opinion, I think yours too.

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Yeah, it’s just way more intuitive. I do, I do enjoy it a lot.

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You know, EQ certainly has a purpose, like my little solar scope, my hydrogen alpha. I run it on a Sky Watcher Star Tracker, in EQ mode and it’s not that hard to find the sun.

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It’s just I do prefer all to ask. I just don’t have to think as much.

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Motions are just simpler.

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Yeah. Yeah, and I couldn’t really find even with the Rowan 100 I think that I would be pushing it beyond its capability.

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That’s an interesting man. I like that. The Pegasus mount though, that can do the capacity.

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And the thing I like about that is Eldas and Lines in the bottom done for ribo cord wrap although I got my there’s like a firmware update that I didn’t even do it.

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Alastair did it. He sent me a new hand controller and it has the anti-cord rap technology in it.

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Like so that when you’re going from object objects and then sometimes we’re like, I’m like, why is it going this way?

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And then you can see, oh, it’s unrapping the cord. So make sure that you don’t.

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Wrap your cords around the the amount. So that’s good. But I think that Pegasus, Man, well, I know the Pegasus mount, you can just plug right into the bottom.

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So I think if I was gonna get something else, it would be Maybe one of those harmonic drives considering There’s a low chance that I’m ever gonna use the manual push to with the.

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With the weight of the 7 inch. I thought that the way the clutches would work. That I would want to use the more.

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But when you release those, like you are releasing oftentimes the full weight of that telescope plus inertia.

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And that’s a lot with any telescope that weighs more than I’m going to say 10 pounds 10 pounds or less, you know, fill your boots.

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I would really want to be able to use the manual sign quite a bit. But once you get over 10 pounds, it’s a lot of weight to be swinging around.

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That could possibly bike you in the face or teeth or nose or eyeballs or something.

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I think anyway, but yeah. Cool. Alright, anything else to add to this episode?

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No, that is all.

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