Podcaster: Shane and Chris
Title: Some Refreshing Views with Mark Radice
Organization: Actual Astronomy
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Description: The Actual Astronomy Podcast presents Some Refreshing Views with Mark Radice as our guest places a focus on some recent observation through a 10-inch F15 victorian refractor, big binoculars and setting up his home observatory. We also talk about planetary observing and how to take colour photos of lava flows on the moon.
Bio: Shane and Chris are amateur astronomers who enjoy teaching astronomy classes and performing outreach where they help the eyes of the public to telescope eyepieces.
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Chris Beckett: and welcome to episode 179 the actual astronomy podcast i’m Kristen to any machine, we are amateur astronomers to love, looking at the nighttime sky in this podcast is for anyone else who likes going out under the stars.
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Chris Beckett: And in this episode we’ll talk with mark radici again from refreshing views how have you been mark.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah we’re good Thank you yeah getting enjoying the the return of the winter skies it’s not getting dark at a reasonable hour.
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Chris Beckett: Good good stuff so just before we hop into things can you just you know we spoke a couple months ago now, and maybe you can just refresh our listeners about what refreshing views is and yeah and then we’ll start start our conversation.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Oh well, hello, my name is mark Marty teacher i’m an amateur astronomer base in base near solsbury in southern England and literally a stone’s throw from stonehenge.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And I started making YouTube videos earlier this year in April and sharing those on refreshing views.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And, but what I really love is getting out into the night sky and we’re so lucky to have our hobby.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Where we can go out and see these wonderful things from craters on the moon, the planets of the solar system and out into deep space and even intergalactic space and what I try and do is share that love of astronomy and how I go about observing the night sky.
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Chris Beckett: Very cool.
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Chris Beckett: yeah and you know we kind of.
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Chris Beckett: Had sort of I think I think you and shane had struck up a conversation at one point and there’s there’s really not that that many.
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Chris Beckett: People who are doing as much about just visual observing these days so there’s only sort of a limited number of YouTube channels and podcasts and that sort of thing a lot of folks who are who are doing this kind of astronomy medium.
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Chris Beckett: are talking about more like astrophysics or different things of that nature different aspects of astronomy but we’re we’re really just just people who regular people who just go and look, and I think that has a certain appeal to it to some folks I think you found that niche as well.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah totally agree oh go ahead.
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Chris Beckett: No, I was just gonna say.
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Chris Beckett: yeah good stuff we might have a bit of a delay there but yeah we’ll just roll with it, I think you said you’d have power to drink before we went my.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: list joys of living in a you know 21st century version having power cuts and stone we’ve had a few storms over the last few weeks that have taken some of the power lines down.
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Chris Beckett: yeah oh that’s terrible okay so just before we we started up today, I had a an interesting email from you about getting into the the local paper and you’d sent along.
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Chris Beckett: These beautiful photos and it’s really hard to describe can we can we tweak these out is that.
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Chris Beckett: Possible that.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: She can that be lovely yes please do.
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Chris Beckett: And just to describe the very brief if anybody’s ever seen a photo of stonehenge you kind of understand what that circle of.
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Chris Beckett: megaliths monoliths or whatever they’re called look like at a mark has captured this beautiful series of shots and sort of the sort of main shot I guess is one.
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Chris Beckett: where you can see stonehenge kind of Center bottom right, and then you can see the moon Jupiter Saturn and Venus all kind of sort of our king.
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Chris Beckett: Above and kind of terminating with Venus above the last stone and you can almost see some color in the sky was that evening.
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Chris Beckett: And you can see, like a little bit of green on the grass and then some of the colors in the atmosphere, and this is just a beautiful beautiful shot mark regulations on getting it.
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Chris Beckett: Well, I think you’ve gone to mute.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: teach me to clear my throat before I started speaking.
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Chris Beckett: yeah go for it.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So my friend Lawrence and I we we live in the next release from each other and we drove up to stonehenge, which is only about a 1015 minute drive from the House and we parked up as a little.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Public area where you can get off the main road and We walked down to the stones they didn’t let you in the stone circle itself that’s all protected, but you can walk on the path alongside.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And we literally had, as you can see, in that picture that sort of sunset view that the last of the Orange glow coming across with the you know sky came from blue into black.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And above the stone circle about this, whatever it is 5000 year old ancient monuments, you had.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Venus Saturn Jupiter all arranged in a line with the crescent moon as well, and you can you can see the line of your clips that you know the line that the.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: The planets and the moon, and the sun or follow in the sky, and it was absolutely beautiful, not a soul there no one was there.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: We just had the sheet for company and looking over this ancient site and the wind was howling across the plane, it was only.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: must be around freezing so i’ve noted to Canadians that’s partially positively tropical.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But you know, but the winter, with the windchill was strong, so I can understand why no one was around but yeah beautiful before and the sky slowly got darker they got lower and lower, and so we moved down a bit further down to where there’s a stone in the second picture the darker picture.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah it’s that’s the stone they line up for the summer solstice when you get people out there to watch the sunrise and it’s summer.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And you can just see Venus just literally setting above above the stone circle Venus is the one just just you can just see.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But it was really spectacular and that’s just with it static camera no tracking you know camera wide angle lens and I took one long exposure to get the foreground.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And then one shorter exposure to get the stars in this course with that pride moonlight in it doesn’t have sort of thing but yeah just blend it together and then yeah I got this picture of you know, the memory of this wonderful sight.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah it’s a wonderful photo what one thing I like about this time of the year, when you have an opportunity for a photo like this, of a number of solar system objects is and it’s more present I think in the photo.
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Shane Ludtke: that’s closer to sunset is that, like the moon kind of at the top of that Arc you know it really curves from the moon kind of downward.
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Shane Ludtke: And you know at other points in the year, I find that that ecliptic line is just it appears more straight and but being the winter, you see a little bit more of that Arc which is pretty cool.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: That was be different on, but I was really hoping we’d have some clear skies next week because, of course, comment Leonard will be in that scene as well.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: In the evening sky, but I didn’t know our weather forecasts and what the weather’s like for you guys but we’ve now compared Western dampen cloudy and Gray so i’m not keeping much hope alive, but fingers crossed.
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Chris Beckett: yeah have you seen the COM yep.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: No, I can’t be mornings I can’t be five in the morning to get up and see it, so I would have done if it was like comment nia was that we had last summer.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: The summer before last, but now I haven’t done it yes and the pictures on mine look amazing did you see it when it went past em three they got really restroom three.
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Chris Beckett: know so we had we had a lot of cloud right at that time and so was a boat.
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Chris Beckett: I think was a boat another day or two I guess it was two two days later, two mornings later that I get out and observed it, so I couldn’t quite get em three and and the Comet together but.
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Chris Beckett: I was able to see the comment that that morning and and I was able to get out the other morning and and take a look.
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Chris Beckett: I guess on I guess it was just yesterday morning i’m a bit confused on the days and times because i’ve been getting up in the mornings and and going Oh, even if it hasn’t been that great and trying to get some views so i’ve been able to get a couple of use of it now.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah yeah I tried, I tried it last night in the evening right around sunset and we have a real narrow window.
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Shane Ludtke: You know, like our sunset time is right around 5pm local time here just a bit before that, but the Comet is pretty much gone by around 630 or actually maybe even a little bit earlier than that.
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Shane Ludtke: And I just couldn’t get it in the twilight.
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Shane Ludtke: You know the horizon glow from the setting sun was was too strong, and I was unable to observe it now with the caveat that I wasn’t able to stay until like the very last kind of minute, which would have been the darkest point but.
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Shane Ludtke: i’m not sure that it’s that it was possible now I was also using 12 by 36 binoculars so perhaps some more aperture would have helped, but even then I don’t think it would have been.
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Shane Ludtke: You know, a very good observation, it probably would have been more just like detecting it in my opinion.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Yes, and Lawrence the chap I went up to stonehenge with he’s seen it in his mid 50s I think there were be easily found terrorists you found messy three and three.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And that just looks like a little smudge and he said there was another smudge alongside it, so I don’t think it’s it’s nothing like we have with neo wise but it’s yeah definitely bright bright pinup cultural objects, but not much more than that.
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Chris Beckett: yeah i’m just trying to look for my I did a I sent a photo off to the to one of the lists that i’m on here but.
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Chris Beckett: i’ll see if I can pull it up and and put it in our show notes, you can you can take a look, and then and then see what what I was able to get there, so if you folks just give me 30 seconds oh i’ll try to get that up.
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Shane Ludtke: Sure sure, maybe, maybe i’ll just fast forward a little bit here, we did jot down a few notes of things that we could maybe talk about and mark when you were on last time you mentioned you’re a PM binocular telescope and i’m starting to really consider one of those in the New Year.
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Shane Ludtke: i’m very intrigued you know in observing with both eyes and I think a binocular telescope is is the supreme way to do that, rather than a vinyl viewer and I noticed that you have the hundred millimeter APS bye no bye binocular telescope with that.
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Shane Ludtke: ATM Center mount and just curious, how do you like that mount is a vibration free or what is the deafening time lake and what’s the motion like with that mouth.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah it’s a good, well let’s let’s get back then, so I like those binoculars but i’ve got the old style he said it more than more than 10 years old pair of binoculars Am I coming through okay yep for the morning my Internet so unstable.
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Shane Ludtke: know.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: You said okay brilliant so um yeah so I have the old style of API not Cuba and the new style, the one that comes out now that when you can buy off the shelf now.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: there’s another chapter in the club he’s got it got a pair of the hundred megabits but not first, and you can definitely see the increase in image quality from my old pair 10 years 10 years old.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: and his new pair you know so, for example, if I look at Jupiter.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: I get a lot of chromatic aberration, you can see that the light streaming often the prisms inside the binoculars.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So, looking at the bright star isn’t so good, but on days, where you can really see the increase in image quality so they’re a bit of a one trick pony in that they’re good for official deep sky observing of.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: You know star feels that sort of thing, whereas the new pair that definitely much better for, for you know as a as an all rounder.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But on that mount with a big steady tripod there they get this you know you’re not.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Doing high resolution you know planetary imaging you’re not down at sub pixel art second tracking.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So I find it works it works just fine you know for low powers, you know 20 3040 times power I didn’t have a problem with it i’ve got it on a big.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: I bought a second hand man for to tripod off eBay and that has the rising central column, because, of course, when you’re looking at the horizon, or I pieces of whatever heights, but if you rotate then up to the zenith.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Your ips has now dropped down in height so having that writing central column is really useful.
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Chris Beckett: it’s not the binoculars and mount are too heavy for next I think that’s the same tripod that we have seen isn’t.
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Shane Ludtke: know this one’s much more robust than.
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Shane Ludtke: Oh, is it oh yeah yeah.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: you’re using the chance across the fields with this one it’s it’s.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Huge it’s the 161 month to be.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And it’s really quite a BC it’s definitely not a portable mount.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah yeah it’s quite a bit beefier than what we have Chris and and I think it’s low capacity is like three times what what ours is so.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah for memories and like 10 kilos something that matters and.
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Chris Beckett: What are you i’m looking it up 44 pounds.
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Chris Beckett: yeah.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah it looks like a really nice tripod.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah I mean I couldn’t afford a new one, so that’s why I went secondhand and yeah it works really well.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So as much as you can raise and lower it’s.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: racing there at the I pieces, you know, so if i’m looking up at the same as I can yeah do that i’m looking at the horizon, you just drop the drop the binoculars down.
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Chris Beckett: Nice.
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Chris Beckett: Nice.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So, yes i’ve got the telescope yeah i’ve got the solutions 11, which also has a binary view and now.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And I have that on the Pier alongside me and then I think I can chill out with the binoculars for a bit and.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So the sea 11 I can’t you know open clusters, the play DS you know all that sort of stuff that I can’t spell I can see them in the sea 11 restaurants 11.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But of course with the telescope you’re looking through the clusters that the field of us too small to Of course you just switch across to the binoculars alongside you get the best of both worlds if you’ve got the big telescope and the binoculars.
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Shane Ludtke: Have you compared the kind of the I guess the the just the view through the hundred millimeter binoculars versus like a you know 120 millimeter Mano telescope.
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Shane Ludtke: i’m kind of curious about the just the image presentation, I was reading some stuff on cloudy nights I forget who posted it but.
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Shane Ludtke: The the astronomer that was that he posted this kind of in depth review and more his experiences, he has a 18 inch by no scope it’s two dogs Sony ian’s.
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Shane Ludtke: wow yeah huge and he he said that his 18 inch by no scope is basically on par with a 25 inch monitors scope is kind of you know what he found and just field testing and and not just with his eyes, but with other eyes so i’m just curious if.
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Shane Ludtke: you’ve had the opportunity to kind of do some comparisons like that, and if so just what your results were.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Now i’ve not done that a detailed sort of side by side comparison, but my own findings are that it is a really nice comfortable way to observe.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But you know that you have four inches of light going into each it.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: You don’t have and that that equates to whatever it is a six inch you know aperture in terms of surface area.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But of course you don’t increase say the resolution, so, if you look at the moon you’re not going to be able to see finer details.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But what it does mean is that, when you’re looking at the very dim extended objects so for some fun, looking at the orion nebula.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Because you’ve got signal going into both of your eyes, now that very faint Lou surface brightness does become brighter than having you know, a largest single telescope.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And I also find that, because you like using both eyes that’s far more comfortable means you can observe for longer it’s much more relaxing and that tool also helps you bring out finer details.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah yeah and that’s why i’m really curious about the vinyl telescope because my playing around with a vinyl viewer this past year.
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Shane Ludtke: that’s probably my greatest takeaway is that I, I could have my eyes, looking at whatever through the telescope for.
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Shane Ludtke: You know, really hours without having to take a break, if I wanted to, whereas mono viewing you know there’s a point where you just have to take your eyes away from the eyepiece and trying to.
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Shane Ludtke: You know, let let your squinting I recover, because it does it does kind of fatigue you after a little while, and it is just so much more comfortable with two eyes.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah I bought something else that you’d be interested in so i’ll have you heard of a power switch.
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Shane Ludtke: Oh yeah the dank buyer power switch.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So I bought one, but not the Dagmar one.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: is called earth when.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: I picked up second hand for 150 American dollars US dollars and it’s so basically if you’re using or binary or straight through.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: You know your whatever the magnification is, but you can slide different lenses in so I can go from Point seven times so a reduction.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Point seven times one times, or two times just by sliding different lenses in front of the binary view but you got to refocus it’s not perfect, but what it does mean is i’m not stopping my pieces back and forth.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So I used it the other night, and I was you know going around deep sky objects and whatever it was about midnight.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: orion nebula was nice and high and I thought right i’m going to go that and if I if i’m at two times power.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: You know i’m looking inside the trapezium one times power i’m getting you know, a detail view of the central area, and if you got 2.7 times or Point six six.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Of course you’ve got the whole field of view and it’s just absolutely wonderful and then of course you can slide different filters in.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: sync and have a naked.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: view I you know filter and i’ve got a UFC filter and I can push that across as well, and then I got though there’s the filtered view.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And it was just wonderful because you don’t know you have you know have this downside now of having to you swap eyepieces over.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Is one because you can you can switch to low power use that field wide angle view use it to find and Center things and then switch back to the high power for you to actually you know inspect and you know study details and objects.
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Chris Beckett: yeah I think I got the key guys see the comment image, you see.
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Chris Beckett: So I made it, as I was warming up i’ll put it that way, but it was I was observing and then as soon as I finished observing it I I got somewhere warm and.
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Chris Beckett: But that tail was very faint and then the The thing that that I was able to see with the with the comment was that it has sort of this fan shape.
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Chris Beckett: To the to the coma and then a little bright area just just after that and that’s not showing up in the in the photos that i’ve seen as well, anyway, so anyway that that’s kind of what it looks like through through a telescope or a little telescope 100 millimeter.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So it sounds like it’s worth going out to hunt for it, then so that’s I love that sketch that’s beautiful.
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Chris Beckett: Anyway, yeah so you know that that’s her mom so based on that, but one thing I wanted to chat with you about market if we’re if we’re okay to move on from the binocular telescope.
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Chris Beckett: fry is the is the Victoria refractor Victorian refractor that you were observing in one of your videos and so i’d watched some of your videos before we chat the last time and i’ve watched several more sense, and I think the first video I watched after we spoke with this 10 inch.
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Chris Beckett: you’re kind of giving some of your impressions at that time, but I think that that is really a unique observing experience so so What was it like to observe, through that instrument.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: It was absolutely wonderful, it was this beautiful Victorian be a brass tube telescope in this huge huge huge Dome and it’s at a private school up near Barbara.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: A town in town in southern England and it’s a private boarding school and they bought it from Oxford University oh years ago.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: were to sort of anguish there’s, all the more you know research moved on from sort of visual observing and so that a teacher back in the day, had relocated.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And you know installed it at this telescope and I think it is the world’s oldest computer controlled telescope because it has a modern, you know go to drive system on top of it, but of course all the clutches and the mechanism and the Mount is you know built in the 18 late 1800s.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: wow and I was hosted by a chap called Gavin James who has he has the dream job if you ever wanted a dream job as an astronomer it’s his job because he runs this observatory for you know that the students for the children at the school and they come up and do their.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: secondary school exams that GCSE exams using this this telescope and they have you can become a friend it’s called the bracket Observatory.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Their online, if you look up blankets observatory and they have they have these open evenings and I managed it, you asked if I could come up and have a look around and film.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: When we start off with we looked at, we looked at the andromeda galaxy, which of course of effort in your in your looking really at the core of it.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: When it’s messy a 15 hour Max a double star with Jupiter Saturn so we had a really nice visual tour and the diffuser absolutely spectacular, but of course they’re 15 you’re you’re generally quite high powered.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: I can’t do the math, but it was still quite a high magnification but really critical I mean there’s double stars, which is what the telescope is designed to do it was a double star research telescope back in back in the day.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Well, absolutely beautiful and on these grounds in southern England day you’ve got the pictures on their website beautiful brass tacks got huge huge huge amount.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And you need to step ladder to get up to the ips because of course you look straight through it, so when you’re looking at a satin down on the horizon already as it is for us in the UK, because you got to get the step ladder up the widow maker, they call this up today.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And there and it was just wonderful and then we swapped over we put the camera we put my ISP planetary camera instead of the eyepiece and we photograph Jupiter as well and sasson we found in all that was my favorite coffee go back up.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Yes, if you if you just see bottom left that’s all paneling that’s the computer control system.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And because it’s an old Victorian telescope, it has to go on this panel case on the steel Pier.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But it’s got its got a modern say Kevin would look online yeah, what are the coordinates assassin their bikes Ascension declination he talks i’ve into the computer and then telescope off it off it goes towards it controlled on that on that system.
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Chris Beckett: But it’s almost it’s sort of in a way, like almost steampunk, but you have this you know Victorian refractor 10 inches everything is is it you say it’s brass.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Because it’s for us yeah it’s it’s brass has like process, I would say.
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Chris Beckett: It has like the you know the old timey cogs and spokes and wheels and everything and then it’s computer controlled that’s just brilliant.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Oh, and there’s one bit in the videos we get towards the end which there’s a little aperture little ports on the side of the telescope near the find the skills gap.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And you pull this lever, and the gap payments is a little two inch whatever diameter whole appears on the side, and that was for back in the day, you would then hold your smokes lantern up to the this port, so that you could see the radical to do double star measurements.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Because of course they didn’t have led you didn’t have your little radical ips you had to hold your smoke glanton on the cheap.
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Shane Ludtke: The video was just phenomenal to me like I have such a fascination with these you know old telescopes and something like this is just I can’t even put words to it, how amazing I find this.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Wonderful absolute one and the funny thing, because we have this beautiful it’s a late summer camp and September, October time.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And Gavin who lives in Barbara he’s got his own garden observatory and he’s got it all optimized optimized for remote observing.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So we are up at the Observatory, you know, observing you know Jupiter Saturn and then 15 and double stars and he was saying, controlling his telescope back in his garden, and he was imaging at the same time.
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Shane Ludtke: wow that’s awesome.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: I was gonna say, but if you get back to those old pictures, you can just see how big fat telescope I mean it’s meters long and meters up in the air as well you know you need a ladder just to get up to it.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And I can’t help but thinking my little yeah so that’s from see 11 the 11 inch Schmidt castigating is actually a bigger telescope.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But is only whatever it is two or three feet long, so my telescopes actually bigger, but much more portable, so it is, it is a permanent setup on a massive mount so it’s completely impractical, but absolutely wonderful.
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Chris Beckett: Just Out of curiosity like you know, think about that comparison your your 11 inch is is an ancient aperture bigger but has a central obstruction.
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Chris Beckett: And I know you were you’ve only spent like a night or so, or whatever it’s been on on this this large refractor, but I wonder like if if the central obstruction kind of.
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Chris Beckett: You know sort of you know, almost almost as a bit of an equalizer in that like how are the views of the planet sort of compared to tear 11 inch scope.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So the what you do that as well the chromatic capital, not a lot so it’s not that there is some chromatic aberration that’s why they had to make these telescopes so long, just to try and reduce that false color that that red and blue in the spectrum.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: from coming through the refractor lens but what you could do, of course, was your stars would go to an absolute pinpoint absolute you know pinprick of light there was none of this bloated star that I can sometimes see on the sea.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Beautiful old you know refractor lens it’s wonderful cook objective 10 inch refractor new central obstruction.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So you’re absolutely right, it was absolutely wonderful really enjoyed it and Gavin let’s ask me really well and it was just brilliant because, of course, he was in imaging and is a telescope in the garden, at the same time.
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Chris Beckett: wow that is that’s just so cool to think about about looking through a telescope like that, and I saw like it it sort of took.
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Chris Beckett: You know, two folks in a child to kind of run it somebody had to you know be sort of slowing the telescope and somebody else had to be moving the Dome I think at one point you hopped in and had to move the Dome while he was willing.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And the course it’s not quite rounds, you know it’s it’s big steel structures it’s not quite rousey you get bits where you can twiddle the the speak handled speak lights on always knievel engineering.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And then you get to a bit the sticks and you’ve really got to put your back in and come and go, and then it goes over that little hump in and starts moving again.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And that’s one of the things I really enjoyed about doing this sort of refreshing pieces hobby this YouTube channels, you know here I am chatting to you guys in Canada.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: You know i’ve been up to this observatory as well, so I get to meet you know people and chat with people it’s been really good fun.
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Shane Ludtke: cool yeah yeah that is so cool this is definitely on my list now my wife wants to we so we did a trip to London in 2017 London and burrows is primarily where we toured.
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Shane Ludtke: However, we want to come back and we’re loosely planning a trip no dates, but this is now on the list of one of our stops for.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Was swing by saying hey shane and will will will look out for you that’d be lovely to have you.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Absolutely, I mean didn’t come now, because I presume i’m watching the news I wouldn’t recommend traffic.
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Shane Ludtke: To have you know, one of the sad parts about you know, a story like this is sometimes these old telescopes either get completely decommissioned and torn down.
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Shane Ludtke: or left in such a state of disrepair that you know they’re pretty much useless and the fact that this old telescope is still collecting light and being used regularly is just an outstanding story.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah so there’s two parts it’s that it’s used, you know for the school students for their GCSE astronomy it’s used for a level students for research projects as well you know this is school or school children.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And then there’s also the friends of the brackets observatory and they have open evenings and best space go up on Monday and see the geminids but it doesn’t matter it’s going to be clear, so yeah it’s um it’s still an active Observatory.
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Shane Ludtke: Well that’s wonderful.
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Chris Beckett: Did you have another topic you wanted to touch on.
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Shane Ludtke: uh no, I think the only one that I wrote down was the vinyl telescope which we we already touched on.
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Chris Beckett: All right, maybe we can talk a bit about your Observatory next because.
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Chris Beckett: Because you know i’ve been kind of rolling around the idea of maybe getting a telescope shelter I don’t think there’ll be anything.
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Chris Beckett: Like what you, you have there in in your what we call it back yard, but, but you folks call it a bit more eloquently a back garden.
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Chris Beckett: Can you tell us sort of about the the size and some of the special features of your observatory to it’s a wooden structure right maybe we should start with sort of the basic.
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Chris Beckett: structure and and design first, because a lot of the time when people think of observatory they think of like that white Dome sitting on top of a mountain peak somewhere, this is not that but it’s just as cool.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So yeah so I i’ve always wanted my own Observatory, so the hassle is of course you you’ve been at work all day you come home have dinner time of the family time with the kids.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And it gets to whatever time it is, and you want to go and set up and in the olden days I had to roll out my extension cable set the mount up, but the jeep on top of the mountain get my accessories get a chair and then, of course, that would cloud over you.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Cheap off that that down the mountain roller extension cable and it was a real it would put me off going out to observe if I was tired if the weather wasn’t necessarily the best.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And I thought right, this is the time we’ve got a little bit of money i’m going to and I paid for, to have mine built you could easily make this yourself if you wanted something simpler.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And I wanted you know this observatory was can see you know lost me out the years, and so I contacted as a UK company called UK Home observatories.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And they came some months later and builds on I had to level the land and I have two parts to it, so I have a list like a garden shed.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And the first part is the warm room that has a chair and a table and a Home Office in there and the got the Observatory itself with a Pier with the telescope in.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And again it’s in the shed but the roof of the shed rolls over the top of the office, so I go out there with my keys I it takes me longer now to make a cup of tea find my winter coat than it does to set up.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: You know so i’ve got my keys making a perceived put my coat on gets it Observatory unlock it unlocks the roof.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: I literally push the roof back on its rails and that exposes the telescope sitting on its peer power it on line up with what I want to look at and i’m saying I mean it’s less you know the longest part of that process is waiting for the kettle to boil.
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Chris Beckett: that’s amazing.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: what’s Nice is it when it’s like two or three in the morning when you’re tired and you’re ready to get a bed is you think well i’ll back up now roll the roof back lecture down desktop is on i’ll come back in the morning type of the rest of it away, I must go to bed.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And I find three hours have gone, because now bunch of outside he can run observing is really I I can’t imagine now not having an upsell for trick.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And you know when people on the forums write about you know what’s your ideal grabbing go I think what I grabbed my keys, and I go actually the Observatory.
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Shane Ludtke: The keys are the graph but.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And I mean you can make it a lot, I mean mine wasn’t a cheap solution, but then I pay the extra to have you know installation built in so it’s more of a log cabin my Observatory.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And it’s on big sleepers tweeted out sleepers and when I had it built, I said to the I know how long the sleepers last you guys or anywhere between 25 and 50 years and I thought well i’m like won’t be observing sit in 50 years time so it’s allowed me then.
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Shane Ludtke: it’s a beautiful Observatory it’s one of the nicer backyard observatories that i’ve seen yeah.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: On their invoice and they said, of course, you know they built their first one, and they learned a few tricks they built next one, then a few tricks and said we’ve had at three other.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: If I built it like this, or next time i’ll have to do it like that, but of course you’re not going to do next time because you’ve already built it so it was really good it was worth every penny.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And then, as well, my wife’s by the King Gardner and, of course, in this.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: turn my Internet must be clicking out last week over you.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah sorry about that my instance obviously playing off of it, you have to edit this out so yeah so she can garden and, of course, in the summer, we may go several weeks without raining so she’s.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Alongside all the guessing there’s got all the water collection points, so we can then keep garden healthy in the summer.
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Chris Beckett: cool and I imagine the Observatory also really helps to block with the wind like when you’re when you’re trying to set up and.
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Chris Beckett: and observe then you’re exposed in that night air and that wind is kind of gradually pulling the heat out of you, I imagine that that’s one of the one of the big benefits to the setup you have there.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But I preferred well those two reasons why I went for the road off roof, rather than a Dome the first one was I didn’t want to attract.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Attention for it, so I didn’t want to have a big white Dome in the garden I don’t want any unwanted you know visitors people come around to have a look at it, you know, in the dark.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So I didn’t he just looks like a garden shed or garden log cabin.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And the other thing as well, I quite enjoy my planetary observing lunar and planetary observing I love I love, looking at the solar system stuff and the problem is, if you have a slit.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And the warm air or goes out through the slip, which of course is what you’re looking at, so you can actually have quite poor seeing through a Dome slip, which is why I wanted to have the roof rolling off.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: To all equalizes it all gets the thermal equilibrium.
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Chris Beckett: I know we have we have a delay, but but yeah carry on with that that and then we’ll get to my question.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Oh, but your pardon, so the other thing as well, of course, was that you can, if you’re in the Dome and you saw that picture of the Victorian refractor it.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Is a very limited sky window you can’t really see what’s going on but i’ve been sitting out there, so i’ve been looking at Jupiter through the telescope or imaging the moon.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But then I see meteors going overhead as well, because you know you’re out so that’s under the stars, but if you’re in the Dome you don’t have that full sky few.
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Chris Beckett: hmm very cool so I was just gonna ask you like couple more questions about about the Observatory, so one thing I noticed is that.
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Chris Beckett: You had picked a spot like you sent you sent that video to us and it showed that it looks like you’re sort of at the.
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Chris Beckett: at the lower end of a hill in your garden, and then the other thing that that interested me was that the original telescope you had in there, it looked like it was a 14 inch.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah, of course, so I let me move here, I tried, and that was me I nearly 10 years ago now, I used to observe it a number of spaces, you know outside the House front of the House top of the guns in Boston with the garden.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And then, this is real trade off between what’s the darkest spot to observe, because this is nice little bit.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: shelter by the tree shelter by you know that the back of the garage and that’s a dark spot in my garden because I can’t see the neighbors lights and I can’t see any streetlights.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But, as you say, where our gardens on the side of a hill So if I go further up the hill more and more houses coming to view more and more streetlights come into view just local lights and the.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Light pollution is not too bad here and so yeah so.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: It was compromised and we’re doing one a bit more sky, but then, of course, I have a brighter scar i’ve got more than called light pollution so that’s why I talked to myself in in the corner.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Down outside to the streetlights it’s Nice and dark Pam there, but I traded a dance guy for and the price of that was using a little bit of access to the sky.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And what was your other question of the telescope wasn’t it so yeah.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So I used to have a 14 inch sky watcher one of the tracking go to say onions.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Welcome, and it was lovely this was a really nice telescope because of course you got this nice big 14 inch aperture.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And it was i’d went for that size one because it was relatively affordable compared to one of the big you know obsession type telescopes and it was the biggest size telescope design could observe without needing a ladder.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So I had a 14 inch aperture Nice and which is relatively big I didn’t need a ladder it had go to and tracking so I could be doing, you know it could be looking at the moon, they can all this stuff and.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Put in you know, being able to seal this stuff with this nice big telescope, the problem was, of course, when I put it in the Observatory it couldn’t see over the walls.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And so I had this big telescope were all I could see was what was directly overhead what’s up there’s that big Leviathan telescoping island that they couldn’t tell because they can only go up and down with Lord ross’s telescope that discovered the spiral nature of galaxies.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah but he could only had a very limited sky window, and that was what my size and now i’ve got this big telescope i’ve got the subsea Richard and I can’t see half the sky.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So that’s why I went for the mist category and that’s why but appearing.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And then upgraded to the concrete beer yeah and then I bought a secondhand from chapter in the club, who was selling his he had a strong see 11.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And he got into deep sky imaging and he done the standard thing of them buying Schmidt category.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And then, of course, your F turns it means you got long exposures in attracting see them piggybacked a small refractor on top.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And then realize, he was using this restaurants 11 as the world’s most expensive guide scope, one is wide field telescope was capturing the lights above so I haven’t bought it off him second hand.
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Chris Beckett: Nice so is that.
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Chris Beckett: Sorry it’s just going to ask is it a sea 11 or is it or is it the edge.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Now select from this thing I am more than happy to upgrade to an.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: edge i’m more than happy to see 14.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: But that’s the problem, so an eq six is again it’s not a cheap mountains, but it’s it was relatively affordable and I think what if I go to the sea 14.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Well, that means I need a big amounts, you know music new place and I just i’m just gonna stick with what i’ve got i’m quite happy with and 11 of course i’d always wanting more, but if you buy the new telescope, then you can apply new mount and so you end up in this bit of an arms race.
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Chris Beckett: yeah cool so one of the other things that that we talked about or you’d mentioned that you’d been up to was was observing Saturn Jupiter series uranus Neptune and some of their moon so.
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Chris Beckett: yeah I just just curious if you can kind of bring us up to up to speed beautiful photo of the moon and planets and sounds like you’ve actually been taken a look through through the sea 11 at the planets as well, or maybe using another telescope for those day.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And that will say lemon in the ground and say I built the observatory in 2017 which was just so I love, looking at the panic button level of astronomy but I really like looking at the planets.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And that was just in time 2017 for the master disappear satin to disappear Jupiter to disappear and they’ve been lost down below the tree line for me for about five years, three or four years.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And finally it finally I can just see satin briefly in the gap in the trees chips, in our case, the trees on the meridian at how that yes, I can finally see them, so I went out a few weeks ago.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And I photograph satin satin at sunset then how Jupiter up and appear from behind the trees were shooting great red spots within swung over to Neptune.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And I am is Neptune again with the telescope and if you increase the image brightness The good thing is you’ve got this blue desk tiny little blue desk and it’s whatever it is, for four and a half billion kilometers away.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Any of this little blue desk and, if you look at the photograph of it, and then you slide the sliders in photoshop you can actually then pick out triton.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Which is you know the moon, the moon, intention and it’s only something like two or 3000 kilometers in diameter, so you got this moon it’s.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Nearly nearly 3000 kilometers in diameter, but it’s four and a half billion kilometers away, and I find this absolutely staggering is amateur astronomers we can go out and see this so after Neptune triton is in over to uranus same thing again disk disk of the planet.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: increase the brightness and again you pick out for moons and thank you for the heads up because it was on one of your earlier podcast you mentioned series was going through the hierarchy star cluster.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: swing swing swing across the series, but I was getting a bit tired at this time, so rather than look through the telescope actually use the binoculars use the binoculars we’re talking about earlier just sketch, that in the notebook.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And I made it a little time lapse of series as it moves, against the background stars in november’s events with the star cluster.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And then, by that time the moon was nice and high so then put the binoculars away and then swing over to the moon hadn’t looked at some of the stuff around math tranquility artists, with the Apollo 11 landing sites and other browsers and cracks in the surface features there.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And then the last thing I did and it’s just about two in the morning was took some pictures with my digital camera.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And then, what you can do is in stack them together, and if you saturate the color you can actually reveal the surface geology.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And that’s different types of lava flows on the moon some rich and titanium some originality medium and they have different reflectivity so some of that blue and some look read the orange and again, you can see this in the in the digital cameras if we enhance the color.
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Chris Beckett: yeah I saw you did a you did a recent video on on bringing the color road you know from from the surface of the moon.
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Chris Beckett: yeah it was really interesting to see you get a lot of different color Sir like look like some browns and orange and sort of purple blues.
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Chris Beckett: And that sort of thing, can you tell us a little bit more about you know how you you hate you hate took those photos like what what’s involved in taking those kind of images.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Yes, you need a bright nice bright moon high up in the sky good above you know the atmosphere get it, Nice and high above the into the sky and just take I took I took.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: A stack of five photos and not a lot, I could have done more, and then what you do put those into photoshop stand together put them into photoshop and if you just enhance the color enhancer saturation of the color that brings out the difference surface chemistry.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So you get different color lava flows in different colored surface minerals, what have you on the Lunar surface and it’s all there it’s not a false color image.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: it’s just a color enhanced image so that’s like one of those NASA geology maps of the Lunar surface and what I really found interesting was that you can see where different lava flows of mixed together.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So you have a red for i’m extra blue, and there are indicative and you’ve had different flows at different times of the you know, in the Lunar geology.
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Chris Beckett: So what phase of the moon would work best for for doing this like can you do it out of full moon or.
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Chris Beckett: Is it that you can do that anytime anywhere it’s just obviously you will see less of the moon surface.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And now request once you wouldn’t get very much you know, in the field of view simply just because the question, but you can do it anytime I did mine was a few days after fall if I remember rightly, so it’s a pretty diverse moon um but yeah you can do it any phase.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: You just get less than best of the moon in view because, obviously, as the termination moves along.
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Chris Beckett: I remember one night and i’m not sure if you’ve tried to see any of these just just with your eyes at the telescope but I was observing when I lived in a trailer I had a parliament with you know a little tiny belkin, but I could just barely get my six inch.
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Chris Beckett: maqsood off up there on it and I pointed it one, at a time when I was, I was bored it was cold in the winter, I thought i’ll just throw it out there and.
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Chris Beckett: And do some casual lunar observing and I was looking at the moon, and I could I thought it could detect you know, one of those I forget which region, it was him but sort of look more like purposely or whatever, and I thought wow that’s really, really weird.
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Chris Beckett: must be just like imagining something and then a buddy of mine phone me and he was he was like are you looking at the moon i’m like yeah and he said.
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Chris Beckett: Do you, what do you notice, and I said I noticed this purple, the region I thought I was you know you know kind of.
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Chris Beckett: You know, Miss observing or you know something was wrong and he said no, no, he was seeing it too, and so I wonder if sometimes during certain vibrations are angles, that that some of those.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: No, but I do know there’s a chap who lives down the road from us he’s the be a lunar section editor.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Okay it’s always he’s always asking for observations or transgender uniform phenomena.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah, which is the stuff that patch him always investigating back in the 70s and 80s and there was a belief, then, that the moon was geologically active.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah and so people were spotting you know surface observations changes in color and he was very active in.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: capturing those and the Ba section is still seeking observations, just to try and verify or validate what people saw at a previous lunar cycle, with what people are seeing now.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So yeah so people were were detecting that i’ve never seen one myself so i’m, I must admit to being skeptical.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: I do wonder if there’s a bit of a you know sort of an observer bias that people want to see it Okay, they see it, you know if people reporting regularly these these sort of weird surface colorings.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah but now everyone has a camera or you know high speed camera or digital camera and we don’t seem to have any pictures of these transiently to fit ominous.
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Chris Beckett: yeah I think I think Patrick Moore though I think I think even up to the end he more or less thought that many, many of the craters and most of the craters on the moon were still a result of volcanism I think he he he didn’t totally buy into the impact theory.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah he bought the wrong horse in that race didn’t.
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Chris Beckett: I think so yeah I think so, but you know not to detract from from all of all of his lunar observations, but.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: you’ve got to remember, of course, he was he wasn’t a scientist he wasn’t a professional astronomer he really presented, he was an authorized user populariser.
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Chris Beckett: yeah no very cool very cool well mark I think we’re getting I know we had we had another topic to discuss, but I think with the, we will only have a few minutes remaining we try to keep these these under an hour and I almost feel like our other topic.
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Chris Beckett: could take up some some more time, which is the business of sketching which which you and I both both do, and so, so there are lots of the other observers out there, so.
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Chris Beckett: Maybe we can we can carry that forward into into the new year at some point i’m kind of kind of curious about your your technique for you know for for black paper and.
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Chris Beckett: pencils be curious to find find that out, but maybe i’ll just ask you really quick so for for making the white on Black sketches what are you using for pencils are using pastels or what are you using exactly.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So this is something that’s a there’s a lady he lives up the road from us about an hour’s drive away called Mary Mary mcintyre and she she’s been teaching me how to do sketching, but this time, as you say, with white two pencils on Black paper so it’s a.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Rather than the traditional graphite black paper black pencils on White Paper, the more traditional approach.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And so i’m using following her advice, and I use a pistol know that I use an artist pencil and that’s quite a thing to pencil and I use that to mark out the styles.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So i’m looking at the field of view and I can see there’s a pattern of stars and movie stars about this Star and this starts to the right of it, and you can lay out the starfield.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: are then use a charcoal pencil of white charcoal pencil or white past or pencil and then you can then use that to make the brightest stars brighter the faintest stars just mark them in.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: And then you can add you can build up layers of the pastoral on the paper, and that makes it that this white nebula city.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: and bring that out so make sure, pastels and charcoal white chuckles.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: To bring that out and it works really well i’m really enjoying it so much more natural looking in you can really increase that dynamic range much more I find them, you can with using black pencils black graphite on White Paper.
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Chris Beckett: Alright, well, maybe that’ll be a bit of a preview to to what we talked about you know, maybe we’ll catch up in a few more months again, so we should we should kind of end here unless scene or mark unless you guys have something else to add before we sign off.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: No just thank you very much for having me I really enjoyed chatting.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah and i’ll just add that we will be like Chris and I will be appearing on on your show mark on refreshing views in January is the January 15.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: yeah I think we have me so i’m looking forward to that, as my tend to make you guys talk this time.
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Shane Ludtke: For sure yeah i’m excited for that, too, so yeah that’ll be great.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So from England, to the great white north.
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Chris Beckett: Good stuff so before we go though mark, can you just tell people how to find you and refreshing us.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: So, yes i’m on Facebook and instagram under mark radici ra di ice I also run a YouTube channel called refreshing views and a website refreshing peace calm.
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Mark & Ruth Radice: Although that’s I don’t write as much as I should but I try and publish the video at least every week, which is really capturing what I get up to in the Observatory so lucky to have you along with us.
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Chris Beckett: yeah very cool well thanks Martin and that really meshes well with what we do, we kind of do an episode every week, she and I and kind of what we’re doing in our amateur astronomy so there’s like a real.
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Chris Beckett: You know, Sir, a natural alignment of what our what our two missions are here and and we’re all just doing it for fun folks so.
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Chris Beckett: You know, go and go and look up marks refreshing views on on YouTube he’s got some really, really cool videos of going to start parties and observing through different telescopes and binoculars.
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Chris Beckett: And yeah and, if you want, you can also subscribe to our channel and with that will thank everybody for listening and you know clear skies.
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