Podcaster: Shane and Chris
Title: Objects to Observe in the September 2021 Night Sky
Organization: Actual Astronomy
Description: The Actual Astronomy Podcast presents Objects to Observe in the September 2021 Night Sky and places a focus on events to help you find the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Venus, Mercury, Uranus and Neptune as well as what you can see on the Moon. With the Gas Giant planets at their best for 2021 we describe how to locate them and when all the planets pair with the Moon for easy identification. We also talk about the Moon and when Lunar X is next visible.
Bio: Shane and Chris are amateur astronomers who enjoy teaching astronomy classes and performing outreach where they help the eyes of the public to telescope eyepieces.
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Chris Beckett: and welcome to episode 150 over the actual astronomy podcast the objects to observe in the September 2020 sorry September 2021 night sky.
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Chris Beckett: i’m Chris and joining me is shane we are amateur astronomers to love, looking at the nighttime sky and this podcast is for anyone else who likes going out under the stars, how are you this evening shane.
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Shane Ludtke: I am pretty good, how are you Chris.
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Chris Beckett: And i’m doing well, people should know that that I kind of messed up a bit and she had bought a new telescope and I was so excited to talk about that I forgot to put the show notes for for the objects to observe in the September 2021 night sky into our podcast.
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Chris Beckett: and notes and, and so we just talking about his telescope and so now these podcasts will be released just that just one out of order, I think, and you know what when I think of out of a little bit out of order, I think about about you and I were a little bit out of order so.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah you know what that’s that’s more than fair and I yeah we’re definitely out of order, sometimes.
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Chris Beckett: I feel like somebody should be pounding gobbler.
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Chris Beckett: or something something like that, but we don’t worry about that much we’re just amateur astronomers and.
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Chris Beckett: We do this for the fun of it so yeah but you know what I am really excited that it’s getting dark earlier now i’m one of the.
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Chris Beckett: People that’s excited about yeah How would you.
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Shane Ludtke: Oh yeah, this is the best time of the year.
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Shane Ludtke: You know it’s not too cold out, we can get out earlier in the night and do more, observing and it’s you know there’s.
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Shane Ludtke: At some point here we won’t have any bugs like mosquitoes or anything like that yeah, this is the best time of the year for observing in terms of like comfort level and ability to just get it done in the evening.
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Chris Beckett: When did the centipedes go i’ve got centipedes.
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Shane Ludtke: Oh OK OK, I don’t know that we’ll have to study.
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Shane Ludtke: Start start plotting daily lows happens.
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Chris Beckett: Oh, my yeah I was dragging centipedes into into our into our shack and yeah.
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Chris Beckett: I found they were all over the all over my observing site it’s a beautiful spot to observe and clear maybe centipedes or sky geezers they were getting up either bench up there, and they were getting up on the bench and you know in great numbers.
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Shane Ludtke: Maybe it’s a migration and they need the stars.
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Chris Beckett: that’s right yeah hey who knows.
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Chris Beckett: It very well very well could be but yeah i’m excited i’ve been staying up late doing doing some observing.
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Chris Beckett: Not just observing centipedes and taking a look at the item Milky Way and in that great line of star called and kimball’s cascade that’s up there in in camelopardalis which is not the northern Campbell but the northern draft.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah yeah one of my favorite.
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Shane Ludtke: whipping clusters is campbell’s cascade and you know the double cluster if you can fit them both in one field of view it’s hard to find something prettier than that so.
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Chris Beckett: yeah yeah.
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Chris Beckett: yeah campbell’s kimball’s is an amazing astro ISM terminates there at the cluster cluster but it terminates at the cluster.
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Chris Beckett: Which, which is a great cluster in in telescopes and if you get up in the early morning, you can actually see or Ryan.
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Chris Beckett: Rising now it’s always a lot of fun at sort of one of their late season camping trips to to stay up super late or to get up early and endpoint some telescopes.
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Chris Beckett: At at the at the orion nebula, for you know kind of a kickstart to your winter observing sometimes the only winter observing we might do if it gets really cold will be in those early morning hours in on.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah yeah exactly you know the we want or if we want to observe orion in the early evening it’s probably minus 20 you know give or take a few degrees.
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Shane Ludtke: And you know the opportunity.
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Shane Ludtke: opportunity to observe it say late September early October.
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Shane Ludtke: it’s much warmer might only be minus five at that point so well, I guess, it could be colder but the point is, you know if you stay up late enough, you can see the winter sky and are some fairly comfortable conditions comparatively.
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Chris Beckett: yeah yeah so we have some really neat events for September.
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Chris Beckett: have some beautiful moon pairings with uranus and Neptune.
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Chris Beckett: Which which I always think makes the best opportunity to hunt these these sort of outer planets down because.
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Chris Beckett: Other than really just seeing them, and it can be difficult to see much, much detail, even through a telescope so really just hunting them down is is the trick and.
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Chris Beckett: And it’s really neat just just to be able to take a look at them and see how that that definitely is is uranus or Neptune have you have you ever heard of uranus or Neptune.
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Shane Ludtke: Oh yeah yeah i’ve observed them multiple times.
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Shane Ludtke: But I have to think I think most of my observations were with newtonian like my eight inch my 12 inch.
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Shane Ludtke: Certainly, a little more impressive with the larger aperture like you know the 12 inch I think even the eight inch I was able to you know tell that it wasn’t a star, you know, is able to make out the disc a little bit better and and.
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Shane Ludtke: You know they certainly benefit from from aperture if you have it, but still a good observation with really any instrument.
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Chris Beckett: yeah yeah it’s just need to kind of kind of have those down in my in my four inch they’re kind of just sort of bloated grey stars really I don’t get get too much color.
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Chris Beckett: we’ve got mercury coming up in the in the evening sky for its greatest Eastern elongation I think it’s pretty tough to see it, though this time around.
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Chris Beckett: Venus i’ve already been observing Venus and a couple times, it will it’s going to be joined by the crescent moon there Jupiter and Saturn are just past opposition.
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Chris Beckett: yen and shadowed I actually tuned in and listen to the the observers notebook by the Association for lunar and planetary observers elbow and yeah they have a couple of great.
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Chris Beckett: podcasts there and I think it was the second one Richard Moody who’s the director for the Jupiter section was speaking he’s also an area see Member and I back in pre pandemic times.
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Chris Beckett: was fortunate to be able to meet up with him a few times that at some of the rsc national meetings so he’s a he’s a tremendous observer and provide some some great advice in those podcasts for people that are a little bit.
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Chris Beckett: Beyond like this sort of introductory thanks guy stuff.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah and that Jupiter podcast was awesome like you know if anybody’s into the planets or enjoys observing them the Jupiter podcast may give you some sort of aspirational.
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Shane Ludtke: You know, things to work on or Jupiter project by trying to determine the different brightness of the features within Jupiter and how that brightness may change over time, I think that’s pretty cool I never had never really thought of trying to record that.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah, but I think that’s a really neat project.
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Chris Beckett: yeah yeah pretty cool so starting on September 1 this is Jesus is just coming up, we have September 1 the zodiac late late or however you wish to say it sorry i’m tired it’s been a long day at work and I made my maritime accident seems to be cutting through.
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Shane Ludtke: The maritime or comes out at night.
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Chris Beckett: Well, exactly I think you’ve heard it well, some of those late night sessions, but the zodiacal a starts to become visible in the eastern morning sky once the moon leaves the scene around that and probably around like sort of mid month ish.
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Chris Beckett: And what you see a sort of his faint pyramid glow of of interplanetary dust and I think they’ve actually traced it back think the champion and he was on our podcast for was saying that some of that has recently been traced back to originating from material escaping from Mars so.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah yeah that was fascinating.
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Chris Beckett: yeah give us a bit of a bit of a heads up on that one.
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Shane Ludtke: Is this will dial eight visible from most latitudes.
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Chris Beckett: Yes, because it’s it’s in the zodiac or in the ecliptic plane, and since the ecliptic is visible from most places, you know well place most places on earth it, you know but but it’s good question like will the angle play a role, you know, and certainly during some times of the year.
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Chris Beckett: We can we can see it quite well, but I know, like some early observers.
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Chris Beckett: You know, or people observing in the late 1800s early 1900s like Barnard wrote a potent from you know, making some his observations.
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Chris Beckett: I think, even in like California and other places that are to the south, I think the others have noted it other regions, and certainly lots of photographs from around the world do show the zodiac colors that I quite.
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Shane Ludtke: quite well in Dave mentioned his observation was in Florida.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah at least the one that he referenced on the podcast and yeah, I guess, maybe i’m more curious about Southern Hemisphere what it would appear, like down there, but I can do some research on them.
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Chris Beckett: Pack your bags let’s go.
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Shane Ludtke: let’s go.
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Chris Beckett: Once those minus 20 temperatures hit.
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Chris Beckett: Yes, yeah.
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Chris Beckett: will be all about the trip to the south.
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Chris Beckett: All right, and so September 7 we have new moon.
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Chris Beckett: So I guess that’s probably around when these are called label become most most visible, but I think I think really once once you get.
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Chris Beckett: towards that mid part of month probably those last few mornings before the moon enters the skies probably going to be the best bet, I think, is what I have in mind here on the 10.
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Chris Beckett: And I was, I was looking at this, so and I ran my planetarium suffer for us anyway in in the northern hemisphere here in North America.
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Chris Beckett: We have Venus moon, and if you have a clear Western horizon mercury in the evening sky after sunset in some places are saying it’s the 11th, but I think that’s because they’re looking at like universal time and that sort of thing, but when I ran my software did say it was for the 10th.
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Shane Ludtke: And what is that an eight degree field that you like the blue circle, you have on there.
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Chris Beckett: Yes, that is, that is an eight degree field where we have Venus and the moon lined up and then.
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Chris Beckett: Mercury is just going to be below into the right or to the South West from there, and then I think on the next night the moon kind of jogs over, but for us it’s really far like.
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Chris Beckett: You know it’s really not in that same field of view and, for me, anyway, I want to be able to.
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Chris Beckett: See mercury or sorry see Venus and the moon, in the same bucket to feel my binoculars have just over an eight degree field of view, and so I wanted to be able to capture them there and.
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Chris Beckett: I think, even if somebody has like a six degree, maybe a five degree binocular even they’d be able to pick out the men will see if I can get them in with his with his 15 by 15 maybe.
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Chris Beckett: Even even capture it so yeah I just love being able to get the moon, and a planet when they when they get close to each other in the sky always think that’s.
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Chris Beckett: Pretty awesome to take a look, and you know back last winter, I was thinking, there were some nights that were bitterly cold and we weren’t going anywhere observing and.
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Chris Beckett: You know, we were sharing views via text message as we looked at our windows and stuff like that, from the warmth of our homes so yeah.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah that’ll be a cool opportunity.
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Chris Beckett: yeah on the 13th we have the first quarter moon, and you know, the thing with the first quarter moon, and this is.
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Chris Beckett: What I always try to encourage people that are that are taking my astronomy class to do is to go and get.
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Chris Beckett: That old pair of binoculars that’s gathering dust somewhere it doesn’t really matter if there’s much dust if there’s a lot of deaths, maybe.
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Chris Beckett: I can clean them off as as best you can, if they’re not too expensive shouldn’t have to worry about it too much, but anyway and point those old binoculars at the first quarter moon on the 13th in and around that date.
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Chris Beckett: What you see when you look at the moon is is an illuminated park and and that part that that that doesn’t have the sunlight falling on it, and then we have this shadow line, do you want to just talk about what you can see, on the shadow line, and what that shadow line is for a second.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah yeah.
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Shane Ludtke: So the shadow line we call it the terminator and that’s where the essentially the lit part of the moon terminates and it becomes dark at that point.
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Shane Ludtke: And you, you see the most detail along the terminator because that area of the moon, the way the sun is now hitting it.
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Shane Ludtke: there’s a lot of shadows being cast by craters by ridges by mountains and those shadows, create a lot of contrast that make all of those features really jump out and much easier to observe.
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Shane Ludtke: In fact, you know if you’ve ever looked at a full moon with any kind of optical aid it’s actually kind of like if you’re expecting to see a lot of craters you’re not going to see them.
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Shane Ludtke: Because it’s very difficult without those shadows, but soon as you have that terminator on the moon, it just becomes alive with detail and, and you know, a full moon still has a lot of detail, I suppose it’s just different detail, but if you’re really after.
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Shane Ludtke: Or if you’re really chasing down the craters and the ranges and all of that kind of stuff you need to be looking along the terminator and then you know also along the terminator is often where you get these you know these sort of shadow things that happened and create other.
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Shane Ludtke: I don’t know I guess.
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Shane Ludtke: Other phenomenon to observe and the Lunar X, I think, is probably the most popular.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah of all of those and.
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Shane Ludtke: When the Lunar X is visible so is the Lunar V and they are exactly as stated it looks like an x and the other one looks like a V and it’s not an actual feature it’s just the way.
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Shane Ludtke: Excuse me just the way the shadow is cast and kind of mixes with the lip parts of the moon, and I think, so this is universal time September.
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Chris Beckett: 13th 13th yeah.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah universal time is is kind of peak lunar X time so.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah if you’re in the northern hemisphere actually I don’t even know if hemispheres necessarily related but anyway September 13 is your time.
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Chris Beckett: yeah and then I see the next night the Lunar straight wall is is visible so.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah that’s another really cool thing to look out.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah yeah yeah definitely taken the moon if if it’s you know if the timing is favorable for for your area, though those are some neat features to see.
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Chris Beckett: yeah as the as the shadow is.
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Chris Beckett: Is waxing off.
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Chris Beckett: Know waning off like as as the shadows coming coming across the moon, now the other night I could see that street wall feature, just like didn’t go to look at it, but.
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Chris Beckett: sort of surprising, so I was, I was upset at around midnight, just as the just as that last quarter moon ish was was sort of making its appearance and yeah I think I could I could see now, so you know we need.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah another another interesting thing here i’m just reading is that apparently the X is.
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Shane Ludtke: easily visible in the daytime Even so, if that time if that universal time equates to you know the the like the daytime give it a try see if you can see the X, apparently, you can.
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Chris Beckett: yeah yeah for sure, like and I know when Dave Dave Chapman who’s written quite a bit about the X and it’s seen as as sort of one of the.
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Chris Beckett: I guess he doesn’t like to say he didn’t discover anything it’s been it was sort of found and then sort of lost and then sort of rediscovered and he was sort of somebody who popularized it by sorting out.
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Chris Beckett: The visibility of the X, but anyway, when you first did it, it was it was pretty much the sun was still pretty much about the horizon, and he was just having to be.
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Chris Beckett: Looking at at the moon, and I know this because I was, I was camp next whom we are observing together at a camping at a camping and astronomy retreat and.
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Chris Beckett: And I was actually trying to sleep and and he ran across it so yeah it was it was pretty cool to see it but yeah my first view of it, I think the sun was still above the horizon, when when we caught it yeah yeah it was really neat.
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Shane Ludtke: Sorry, what other moment here, Christopher the terminator is that it it’s actively like moving across the surface of the moon now not so fast that you, you know just watch it.
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Shane Ludtke: You know cascade over the moon, but over the course of like, especially if you’re trying to observe say this lunar X over the course of an hour the brightness and the detail will change.
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Shane Ludtke: Just as the.
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Shane Ludtke: The moon catches the light from a different angle, it will change the position of that terminator so just kind of an fyi.
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Chris Beckett: yeah good stuff and yeah I kind of looked you this lunar material, because I think you’re out of the two of us you’re definitely the more lunar savvy.
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Shane Ludtke: I definitely enjoy it, you know there’s there’s a lot to observe from the moon.
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Chris Beckett: yeah and September 14 we have mercury at greatest Eastern elongation, which I find is always kind of a confusing term that the term of eastern and western elongation because.
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Chris Beckett: Mercury is going to be visible in the West when it’s at grace critical Eastern elongation so anyway September 14 look for mercury in the evening sky maybe that’s what we should say.
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Chris Beckett: Instead of jumbling around with all these terms, so mercury is going to be in the evening sky in the 14th However, the southern hemisphere is is much more favored than, then we are.
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Chris Beckett: And yet it is pretty tough to see so i’m i’m a mercury observer when it’s when it’s going to be well placed like every year there’s at least.
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Chris Beckett: Two or three opportunities when it’s well placed and I mark those on my calendar and I I do a special setup and I make sure I.
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Chris Beckett: I have a spot picked out where I can go and set up and actually see it because it’s usually really close the rise and.
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Chris Beckett: This is not one of those times I will I will probably just be lucky to observe a kind of you know from my upstairs or between the houses are from upstairs between the houses it’s it’s going to be pretty.
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Chris Beckett: Pretty low observation to make unfortunately so that that’s kind of it with mercury shane, unfortunately.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah yeah not much to see right now, like unless like you said you’re in the southern hemisphere so.
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Shane Ludtke: yeah and and to be real honest like there’s like that’s a real tough planet to observe, even when conditions are perfect.
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Shane Ludtke: Oh you’re you’re probably not going to see detail that like I don’t know how how attainable, that is, you know, unless maybe you have big aperture but.
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Chris Beckett: Well it’s it’s tough, I mean i’ve seen something is probably the best way to put it, and i’ve drawn it.
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Chris Beckett: And, and it kind of it’s difficult to match up with what surface the details you’re you’re perhaps, seeing as an illusion.
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Chris Beckett: But definitely yeah there’s kind of something there and there’s some areas you’ll see are darker than others and some areas are really, really bright and.
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Chris Beckett: it’s it’s it’s very tough to observe, but just seeing anything just I just love the idea that.
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Chris Beckett: You know it’s just just a small person on another planet, I can take out my small telescope i’m using a four inch telescope and.
00:20:18.330 –> 00:20:30.570
Chris Beckett: I can point that it’s something that’s buzzing around the sun every 80 days, and you know I can see the the surface about as good as you can see the surface of our moon through.
00:20:31.470 –> 00:20:45.870
Chris Beckett: You know, through like moderately heavy cloud on earth that’s about all you can see, but you know, sometimes you can see that the moon, is there, and you can see that it has you know some light and dark areas and that’s probably the best way to describe your best use of mercury.
00:20:47.250 –> 00:20:59.760
Chris Beckett: But you know just the idea that you are looking at the surface of this other other planet that’s that’s in our solar system that’s such a draw for me, anyway, just so so cool to be able to do that.
00:21:00.480 –> 00:21:02.190
Shane Ludtke: yeah no that’s that’s well stated.
00:21:02.880 –> 00:21:05.190
Chris Beckett: yeah so anyway, but not this time.
00:21:07.350 –> 00:21:14.790
Chris Beckett: Okay, moving on the good news is, though, well mercury might be too tough to see this time is that.
00:21:15.390 –> 00:21:24.990
Chris Beckett: Neptune is an opposition on the 14th and that’s going to allow you some some telescopic observations and you can look at it all night long because it will rise.
00:21:25.830 –> 00:21:37.980
Chris Beckett: At sunset and it will set at sun rise now i’ve i’ve seen some cloud top detail of course Neptune is what they call an H giant has like I think methane ice.
00:21:38.400 –> 00:21:55.170
Chris Beckett: clouds for the most part it’s it’s rather bluish and I think I saw like a bit of a stripe or something once through through a 10 inch that was that was tracking and we observed at four hours in order to see anything i’m not sure if you’ve ever seen anything on Neptune chain.
00:21:55.590 –> 00:22:03.870
Shane Ludtke: know, the only thing was the color you know that I was able to pull that out that was that was actually very apparent in my eight inch.
00:22:03.900 –> 00:22:05.520
Shane Ludtke: yeah that I remember, but.
00:22:05.640 –> 00:22:09.300
Shane Ludtke: I know, no other surface detail or I shouldn’t say surface.
00:22:10.620 –> 00:22:11.910
Shane Ludtke: Atmospheric detail.
00:22:12.120 –> 00:22:27.600
Chris Beckett: Atmospheric detail yeah that’s really put it, you know yeah that’s a good way to put it, and it’s up there in in aquarius yeah so mercury is so close the horizon is really matter where it is near virgo but.
00:22:28.920 –> 00:22:39.810
Chris Beckett: But Neptune is going to be an aquarius it’s going to be actually sort of rate off of like there’s like a big weird wonky part of the pattern but.
00:22:40.410 –> 00:22:52.080
Chris Beckett: If you look a pisces there’s what’s called the circuit and it’s right below that circle, but it’s basically a boat of circuit below the circuit and if you find the circuit of pisces, which is in turn rate below the great square of Pegasus.
00:22:53.370 –> 00:23:02.940
Chris Beckett: Then, then you know you’ll need a chart to to hunt it down but but, but it is possible, or you know planetary planetarium software in your computer.
00:23:04.170 –> 00:23:22.080
Chris Beckett: Okay yeah so probably try to take a look at some time in September September 17 though 17th and 18th these are these are pretty cool I like these sort of things when Saturn and Jupiter have the moon going by the subsequent nights so on Saturn here in North America, we have.
00:23:23.100 –> 00:23:24.690
Chris Beckett: The moon four degrees.
00:23:25.770 –> 00:23:34.590
Chris Beckett: You know it’s a Saturn four degrees north of the moon on September 17 and then Jupiter will be four degrees.
00:23:35.310 –> 00:23:42.150
Chris Beckett: north of the moon On the 18th so that’s coming up and i’m just looking at the diagram here now.
00:23:42.960 –> 00:23:54.420
Chris Beckett: kind of wondering, you know I thought I thought the other night when I guess it was about a week and a half, I was looking and I thought it was the reverse anyway i’m not sure, did you look at it there, the Saturday before last.
00:23:57.150 –> 00:23:58.080
Shane Ludtke: just trying to think.
00:23:58.680 –> 00:24:00.660
Chris Beckett: Because this is one of these things where this has kind of been.
00:24:00.660 –> 00:24:05.790
Chris Beckett: Repeating for like about a year now, where the moon and and Saturn and then.
00:24:06.930 –> 00:24:16.470
Chris Beckett: Jupiter and then Saturn or vice versa, because they kind of swap positions in the sky it’s going to be go off, but a year or so actually live a longer than a year now, I started watching last May or June.
00:24:17.670 –> 00:24:23.940
Chris Beckett: But anyway, sometimes the moon will be above and sometimes it’ll it’ll be below, but this time the planets are each going to be.
00:24:24.750 –> 00:24:41.580
Chris Beckett: north of the moon so they’re going to be above the moon, and the moon, is going to kind of skirt just below them and they’re both sitting in capricornus which is beautiful fall constellation that looks like a pair of like Bikini briefs or maybe the star trek symbol it doesn’t.
00:24:41.760 –> 00:24:42.240
Chris Beckett: look like is.
00:24:43.470 –> 00:24:43.980
Chris Beckett: There you go.
00:24:44.700 –> 00:24:46.680
Shane Ludtke: Well, there yet that paints a picture.
00:24:47.040 –> 00:24:49.620
Chris Beckett: fashion advice from actual astronomy.
00:24:49.980 –> 00:24:58.620
Shane Ludtke: yep yeah and four degrees apart, you know that’s that’s well within field of view range for a lot of refractory.
00:24:59.280 –> 00:25:01.860
Shane Ludtke: Yes, that’ll that’ll be another pretty cool observation.
00:25:02.340 –> 00:25:09.240
Chris Beckett: yeah small smaller factors in virtually any binocular that apple would own would would be able to get.
00:25:10.440 –> 00:25:17.400
Chris Beckett: On on each of those nights on the first thing you’d be able to get Saturn and the moon, and then on the second that you’d be able to get Jupiter and the moon.
00:25:18.540 –> 00:25:24.930
Chris Beckett: that’s pretty cool to be able to see the moon, and another planet, especially Jupiter Saturn because.
00:25:25.980 –> 00:25:33.750
Chris Beckett: You know, in a little refractor you can probably get about maybe 25 or so power just enough to be able to see.
00:25:35.250 –> 00:25:39.900
Chris Beckett: just maybe 20 power, actually, but just just have to be able to see the Rings pretty decently.
00:25:40.260 –> 00:25:54.900
Chris Beckett: And then you’ll see like lots of craters on our moon sort of both these things i’m in the same field of view same ips and then with Jupiter he builds the disk and then the moons of Jupiter and then arm together in the same field of view it’s really cool to see as well.
00:25:55.470 –> 00:26:00.630
Shane Ludtke: yeah I really hope we have clear skies for that I really want to make both of those observations.
00:26:01.110 –> 00:26:07.530
Chris Beckett: yeah for sure and i’ve made I made as many as I think i’ve made, as many of those it’s been clear sometimes.
00:26:07.890 –> 00:26:15.180
Chris Beckett: Without optical eight Saturday before last I just I knew was happening, I actually had gone to bed I forgot about it, and I was lying in bed, and I was like.
00:26:15.570 –> 00:26:28.740
Chris Beckett: Why is it, I was at my dark sky saying i’m like, why is it so bright out and have been cloudy so I hadn’t even planned to do any astronomy and I get up and I was like oh there it is, and of course it’s like pretty much a blazing full moon, and you know here it is.
00:26:31.020 –> 00:26:37.800
Chris Beckett: Just on the upside of of Jupiter that night, and I was like Oh well, that’s great I saw it, and then it rained again like 16th.
00:26:40.950 –> 00:26:54.180
Chris Beckett: And the 20th we have a full moon five degrees so of Neptune that almost around So here we have another opportunity to take a look at Neptune just past opposition.
00:26:54.600 –> 00:27:05.640
Chris Beckett: This time and it’s within that same but Dr field of view so most binoculars will give you at least five degrees so could be a stretch for people with smaller field of view binoculars.
00:27:06.420 –> 00:27:15.480
Chris Beckett: But typically most binoculars are six or seven degrees ish so they’re going to be able to take it in so with the full moon five degrees so tune.
00:27:16.050 –> 00:27:29.580
Chris Beckett: You find the full moon, and then you put it in the bottom of the field of view, and then the brightest star to the top of your field is going to be the planet Neptune so that that could be an opportunity, just for people to try to hunt it down on their own.
00:27:30.180 –> 00:27:37.860
Shane Ludtke: yeah yeah G your your theme at the start is really holding true with a lot of pretty interesting moon pairings this month.
00:27:38.370 –> 00:27:53.070
Chris Beckett: yeah yeah pairings of them yeah It really is it’s it’s fantastic, and I really I really love it when the moon pairs up with planets and stars, because most people are familiar with, like most really going to be able to find the moon.
00:27:54.750 –> 00:28:00.510
Chris Beckett: And, and by using the moon to guide you to find other things in the nighttime sky.
00:28:01.770 –> 00:28:10.950
Chris Beckett: You know it’s easier than just it’s much easier than just like go use a chart and find it it’s that that’s going to you know, lead to a few headaches probably.
00:28:11.520 –> 00:28:14.970
Chris Beckett: But if people just kind of know generally where it is on certain dates.
00:28:15.840 –> 00:28:24.990
Chris Beckett: They can sort of more casually just kind of learn the sky and if people are looking for a good resource a resource like sky maps calm, which we have no affiliation with.
00:28:25.290 –> 00:28:38.400
Chris Beckett: I just think they did really cool work and they put out these monthly sky maps for the evening sky and they tell you when the moon, is going to be near bright planets are stars and I think that is the perfect way for people to begin learning the nighttime sky.
00:28:39.480 –> 00:28:48.150
Chris Beckett: Without really kind of stressing over things like right Ascension declination or or all kinds of stuff like that it’s just a real practical way to to learn the nighttime sky.
00:28:48.750 –> 00:28:49.740
Shane Ludtke: yeah absolutely.
00:28:50.940 –> 00:28:56.880
Chris Beckett: September 22 is the tunnel equinox any big plans for the shame.
00:28:59.700 –> 00:29:00.000
Shane Ludtke: Oh.
00:29:01.530 –> 00:29:03.000
Shane Ludtke: No, not at this time.
00:29:03.330 –> 00:29:04.260
Chris Beckett: Now we plan, a party.
00:29:05.610 –> 00:29:18.030
Chris Beckett: yeah sure sounds good yeah usually there’s not much you you can’t really see anything with the upcoming equinox it’s just that the that that’s one of the things like we talked about, I think, in one of the recent episodes about.
00:29:19.410 –> 00:29:31.380
Chris Beckett: You know the ecliptic and we talked about our our you know editorial plane that’s projected out on onto the nights celestial sphere, called the celestial equator.
00:29:31.770 –> 00:29:37.470
Chris Beckett: And this is just when the sun is going below that’s less to the queer it’s it’s something you can’t really see.
00:29:38.400 –> 00:29:51.810
Chris Beckett: So much as feel in subsequent weeks usually we we dip considerably below the freezing mark and get this weight material that starts falling and cook some outs from the sky in the early part of October and that’s that’s how we feel at anything.
00:29:53.160 –> 00:29:56.070
Shane Ludtke: that’s that is life in saskatchewan.
00:29:56.310 –> 00:30:04.350
Chris Beckett: yeah there we go September 24 uranus is going to be 1.3, so this is super close this is in the telescopic range and you can.
00:30:04.650 –> 00:30:16.560
Chris Beckett: Most telescopes even decent size telescopes these days with two inch pieces can give you a 1.3 degree field of view and uranus is going to be 1.3 degrees north of the moon on September 24.
00:30:17.850 –> 00:30:23.940
Chris Beckett: For some locations, but here it doesn’t get near that close before sunrise but it’s still reasonably close, I think we get it within.
00:30:24.570 –> 00:30:31.860
Chris Beckett: Within I think about three or four degrees at its at his closest so so even there that’s a great binocular.
00:30:32.580 –> 00:30:40.470
Chris Beckett: target to hunt down the moon, and the end you’re in a see I see my notes here it’s five degrees uranus is going to be about five degrees.
00:30:41.070 –> 00:30:51.330
Chris Beckett: north of the moon on that night so it’s the same thing you to sort of put it in your put the moon in the bottom of your field of view on September 24 and then the the brightest star towards the top.
00:30:51.870 –> 00:31:04.260
Chris Beckett: And this will be like around 10 or 11 o’clock at night that that’s going to be uranus on the 29th we have the last quarter moon, and this is, I think our last.
00:31:05.070 –> 00:31:14.730
Chris Beckett: thing to to talk about tonight, but yeah I was, I was observing the last I think I think it was the last quarter moon on Saturday night my right there something like that.
00:31:15.390 –> 00:31:26.040
Chris Beckett: Anyway, I was taking a look at the last quarter moon with a boat oh shucks I guess it was about I don’t know, maybe 60 power or something like that.
00:31:27.120 –> 00:31:36.390
Chris Beckett: Beautiful view could get more than the full moon in the field of view, I guess, it must be 70 power anyway get the more than if I could get more than the full.
00:31:37.440 –> 00:31:46.680
Chris Beckett: globe, with the moon in my in my telescope and yeah I like it when it gets down to that last quarter because typically we get so used to looking at that.
00:31:47.190 –> 00:31:58.500
Chris Beckett: First quarter moon and and crescents just as they’re leading up to first quarter because that’s when we’re often out observing and maybe we quote and we’re looking at the moon, and the moon sets we do deep sky observing but.
00:31:58.980 –> 00:32:09.660
Chris Beckett: This is, this is a good time of year, where you might be going out and doing an hour sort of observing and then the moon rises and you can kind of take a look at the sort of that lesser or less observed.
00:32:10.440 –> 00:32:14.700
Chris Beckett: quarter of the moon, at least from, from my perspective, not sure what your thoughts are on that shane.
00:32:15.570 –> 00:32:17.010
Shane Ludtke: um yeah you know.
00:32:18.870 –> 00:32:23.790
Shane Ludtke: I i’m not biased against any of the Lunar phases, Chris I will observe them all.
00:32:25.200 –> 00:32:25.560
Shane Ludtke: But.
00:32:27.870 –> 00:32:41.430
Shane Ludtke: You know I what I like about the moon, this time of the year is that it is, it is up a little earlier well I shouldn’t say that it just it’s darker earlier and I find that observing the moon, is just a little more accessible, this time of the year as well.
00:32:42.600 –> 00:32:57.030
Shane Ludtke: Sometimes you have to stay up late and and again it’s just part of the reason why I really enjoy fall observing is because so much more of the sky is accessible due to the darkness and just favorable lineup of things in the sky.
00:32:58.410 –> 00:33:11.700
Chris Beckett: Nice yeah it is, it is nice and you know things start start quieting down, I will miss the warm or evenings like Saturday night I guess it was like a day or just over a day before.
00:33:12.330 –> 00:33:17.430
Chris Beckett: For within the last quarter I think it’s technically it’s like last quarter, this morning, or something like that, but.
00:33:18.720 –> 00:33:22.980
Chris Beckett: yeah I was at observing and I was still just wearing a sweater and you know.
00:33:24.150 –> 00:33:34.560
Chris Beckett: Just a pair of regular jeans kind of thing, and you know it’s just really, really nice to be owed under under a beautiful night sky and.
00:33:35.280 –> 00:33:47.160
Chris Beckett: You know, watching the stars goodbye and watching you know the odd meteor and looking at some galaxies and nebula and clusters and and then Jupiter and Saturn through the telescope was was a lot of fun.
00:33:48.420 –> 00:33:52.860
Chris Beckett: And it’s much more fun when it’s when it’s not minus 20 So there we go.
00:33:53.340 –> 00:33:55.110
Shane Ludtke: What were your oh sorry go ahead.
00:33:55.170 –> 00:33:55.890
Chris Beckett: No go ahead.
00:33:56.130 –> 00:33:59.250
Shane Ludtke: I was just going to ask what is, what are your new moon plans for September.
00:33:59.640 –> 00:34:02.310
Chris Beckett: yeah that’s that is a that is a good.
00:34:02.790 –> 00:34:04.080
Chris Beckett: A good question so.
00:34:04.290 –> 00:34:13.110
Chris Beckett: yeah i’ve got a few a few projects on the go and going to take a look at I think like moping out some galaxy to.
00:34:13.560 –> 00:34:29.850
Chris Beckett: Do any constellation moping moping around the galaxy or the constellations for you go and just sort of pick a constellation and try to see all that deep sky objects, the star clusters nebulas galaxies what have you and, like a particular cluster or a particular constellation.
00:34:30.240 –> 00:34:36.120
Shane Ludtke: yeah there is a phase for two or three years where that’s pretty much entirely how I observed.
00:34:36.900 –> 00:34:51.630
Shane Ludtke: And, so much so that, when we would go out observing I wouldn’t even really know which constellation, I was interested in it would just be kind of whatever caught my eye open a star chart to that constellation and just start observing see what I see what, all I can find.
00:34:52.620 –> 00:34:56.250
Chris Beckett: yeah I was, I was thinking, I took my star trek to to my dark sky Satan.
00:34:57.450 –> 00:35:10.230
Chris Beckett: I should just do this so one thing I did last winter during a particularly bad cold spell is I marked out all I think it’s like 150 objects that I thought would be interesting to take a look at from.
00:35:11.490 –> 00:35:13.440
Chris Beckett: I think it’s a web celestial handbook.
00:35:14.970 –> 00:35:29.490
Chris Beckett: Anyway, and so I thought I would go and take a look at those over the next year and and see what’s what’s what how about you, what are your plans for this this new moon period this probably last warm new moon period of 2021.
00:35:30.150 –> 00:35:32.850
Shane Ludtke: yeah so I want to keep going with my.
00:35:33.900 –> 00:35:34.860
Shane Ludtke: Hidden treasures.
00:35:35.160 –> 00:35:42.750
Shane Ludtke: Project observing homers hidden treasures I basically have the same telescope that he used to observe them, so I think that’s kind of neat and.
00:35:44.040 –> 00:35:58.890
Shane Ludtke: I want I just would like to compare you know what some some of our really good dark skies are like and maybe what some of our mediocre dark skies are like in in relation to what he observed, and you know there’s still one other just real small variable the observer.
00:36:00.030 –> 00:36:15.600
Shane Ludtke: And you know o’meara will leave me in the dust i’m sure he’s I think he has quite good vision and just as a you know, a patient observer that is able to see a lot of detail but regardless i’d like to i’d like to observe those objects.
00:36:15.900 –> 00:36:25.140
Shane Ludtke: yeah and if the weather, you know depending what the forecast looks like I may had self to our favorite location, the grasslands National Park East block and.
00:36:25.560 –> 00:36:26.940
Shane Ludtke: Maybe do a little observing there.
00:36:27.570 –> 00:36:36.120
Chris Beckett: yeah very cool we’ve got a couple of comments you, you may be able to try to see so eight P title.
00:36:37.980 –> 00:36:46.230
Chris Beckett: In the past it has brightened rapidly so as a mid August, it was still hovering you know, in the 10th 11th mandatory range.
00:36:47.550 –> 00:36:50.190
Chris Beckett: But I see some recent observations have.
00:36:51.210 –> 00:37:02.610
Chris Beckett: I think the prediction actually is that it’s around ninth mandatory now and should brighten to a point five magnitude, maybe around the end of September or new moon period.
00:37:03.750 –> 00:37:10.740
Chris Beckett: And the September beginning of October, but it’s not well placed this time and it kind of.
00:37:11.760 –> 00:37:14.880
Chris Beckett: You know, probably won’t be won’t be as easily visible.
00:37:15.780 –> 00:37:25.710
Chris Beckett: From the northern hemisphere and then we have see 2021, which is a long, so the first one is a short period comments probably have a pretty tough but it’s going to break up and might be.
00:37:26.610 –> 00:37:41.430
Chris Beckett: Good to see from the southern hemisphere and then see 20 2101 mushy Mira is is in the ninth 10th magnitude the observable right now but it’s going to come back.
00:37:42.570 –> 00:37:46.650
Chris Beckett: In December, and who knows what will be once once it comes back.
00:37:47.400 –> 00:37:55.290
Chris Beckett: into the nighttime sky and then we have 40 K, which is going to be around him attitude and bunch of other ones around 11 magnitude so.
00:37:55.650 –> 00:38:13.860
Chris Beckett: really would have to want to take take a look at them there’s one that i’m kind of interesting to see your interest see how it evolves which is 252 P linear because banking 2016 and I remember that one Do you remember, does that sound familiar to five to pee linear.
00:38:14.100 –> 00:38:16.080
Shane Ludtke: No that’s not jumping out.
00:38:16.440 –> 00:38:20.760
Chris Beckett: yeah we looked at that it was fourth magnitude except pretty bright.
00:38:20.940 –> 00:38:27.480
Shane Ludtke: Oh gee how do I not remember that, and then it and then it briefly brightened up here in August, I guess, I missed this to.
00:38:27.480 –> 00:38:28.410
Chris Beckett: 10th magnitude.
00:38:28.920 –> 00:38:31.080
Chris Beckett: And then it’s hovering around like.
00:38:31.110 –> 00:38:33.870
Chris Beckett: 12th and 13th manitou which is, which is kind of faint.
00:38:35.220 –> 00:38:52.380
Chris Beckett: But it stays, and this is in the southern hemisphere, right now, so, but in in the evening sky in October, it starts to enter into the northern hemisphere, though it’s going to be really low it maybe we’ll break it up again, I mean shoot when we think about.
00:38:53.550 –> 00:39:03.060
Chris Beckett: You know comment nia wise last year it was pretty low, but it was so bright if this this Brighton two main to, for example, is low you’d be able to.
00:39:04.170 –> 00:39:15.870
Chris Beckett: To see it so yeah there’s there’s a few other comments that hopefully will will brighten up in the coming months, but nothing, nothing of any know right now, unfortunately.
00:39:16.710 –> 00:39:29.580
Chris Beckett: On the comment front yeah and I think the with the meteors we just have some sort of sporadic meteor showers I think there’s the there’s another proceed type meteor shower but it’s just sort of one of these minor showers.
00:39:30.660 –> 00:39:38.160
Chris Beckett: And then we have some some toward fireballs and stuff like that, and then in the early morning sky I think towards towards the end of the month.
00:39:39.810 –> 00:39:40.290
Shane Ludtke: right on.
00:39:40.770 –> 00:39:52.230
Chris Beckett: yeah well shane we’ve covered a lot of different material here tonight, did you have anything left to to add to our hundred and 50th episode of actual astronomy.
00:39:52.860 –> 00:40:01.770
Shane Ludtke: And not really I will just remind everybody it’s it’s pretty customary for this episode when we do the kind of the month of things to observe.
00:40:02.940 –> 00:40:17.310
Shane Ludtke: You know, we referenced some food or some images throughout this podcast all of those images and everything that we talked about will be on our website actual astronomy.com so if anybody is interested in a reference of of this episode.
00:40:17.880 –> 00:40:25.320
Shane Ludtke: check it out there there’ll be a PDF that you can download and no cost no charge in fact I don’t even think you need a membership to do that.
00:40:26.490 –> 00:40:28.440
Chris Beckett: We don’t have an ability to give membership.
00:40:29.700 –> 00:40:38.010
Shane Ludtke: No, no, but, but you can you can sign up it’s through wordpress and you can sign up and I don’t know I think you follow our website, or I don’t know exactly the terminology, but.
00:40:38.550 –> 00:40:49.650
Shane Ludtke: If you do that, you will get notified in fact it might even just email a link to you, every time we post something so you can do that, and I know a few people have, I think we have 15 or 20 people that have done that.
00:40:50.490 –> 00:40:52.650
Shane Ludtke: So that’s that’s another option for folks.
00:40:53.130 –> 00:40:55.140
Chris Beckett: Well, I didn’t even know that was.
00:40:55.140 –> 00:40:56.220
Chris Beckett: Clearly we’re not tracking.
00:40:56.220 –> 00:40:58.680
Shane Ludtke: People maybe you need to sign up Chris.
00:40:58.830 –> 00:41:00.390
Chris Beckett: yeah I should I should sign.
00:41:00.510 –> 00:41:09.810
Chris Beckett: sign up for it well that’s really great well really it’s thanks to you shane for for setting all that up you’re the master of the Web ceremony, so we proceed.
00:41:11.460 –> 00:41:11.790
Chris Beckett: alright.
00:41:11.820 –> 00:41:12.300
Shane Ludtke: My pleasure.
00:41:12.900 –> 00:41:15.720
Chris Beckett: thanks again, and thanks everybody for listening have a good night chain.
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365 Days of Astronomy
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