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Podcaster:  Shane and Chris

Title: Objects to Observe in September 2020

Organization:  Actual Astronomy

Link :  https://actualastronomy.podbean.com/

Description: The Actual Astronomy Podcast presents Objects to Observe in the September Sky places a focus on sky events to help newcomers identify the planets and detailed observations of the changing surface of Mars and the Cloud tops of Venus, Saturn and Jupiter. Chris and Shane also talk a little about their upcoming trip to the Grasslands National Park Dark Sky Preserve.

Bio: Shane and Chris are amateur astronomers who enjoy teaching astronomy classes and performing outreach where they help the eyes of the public to telescope eyepieces.

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Transcript:

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Chris Beckett: Live from the internet cloud. It’s astronomy actual astronomy.

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Shane Ludtke: Astronomy actually some actually it’s astronomy, isn’t it. Yeah, something like that.

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Chris Beckett: And this is episode 44 objects to observe in the September sky or what is Chris making Shane observed this month.

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Shane Ludtke: Yes, yes, yes.

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Shane Ludtke: Do you have any key objects, you’re excited for

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Chris Beckett: Mars.

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Shane Ludtke: Yeah. Yeah, me too. Yeah.

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Chris Beckett: And I’m pretty excited. We have lots of followers. We have 50 followers now and we passed over 4000 downloads last night.

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Shane Ludtke: Yeah, that’s crazy. This thing is getting, you know, more attention than I ever thought it would. To be honest, I thought you and I would just end up talking about astronomy recording it putting it on the internet and, you know, maybe just a couple family friends with

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Chris Beckett: It but yeah we

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Chris Beckett: Do have family and friends listening.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah and you know we i think that’s that’s really fun.

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Chris Beckett: You know, I did hear from from one of my five or six nieces.

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Chris Beckett: And she’s listening to it. So, so that’s really fun and and yeah friend of mine, she’s become a follower, but she said, I haven’t listened to it yet. So that’s cool too.

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Chris Beckett: And yeah, so this month for September. Yeah. Mars is really getting towards its, its opposition, it’s going to be an opposition on October the 12th, but I’ve got a few other things.

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Chris Beckett: So, usually as we as we get into fall, you know, being being from the coast.

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Chris Beckett: We’re looking for the large tides and the largest tides are going to start just afternoon on September 17

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Chris Beckett: So, you know, I’ll be curious to hear my parents always give me the tide report when I when I give them a call and then mercury is going to be at its best evening apparition, but for the Southern Hemisphere. It’s, it’s pretty tough to get it’s, you know, usually very horizon hugging.

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Chris Beckett: But I don’t know. I didn’t look at the planetarium software may be easier and V remains very high and well placed in the in the morning. Twilight.

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Chris Beckett: It’s, you know, going to be about four degrees from the moon on the 14th of September. So that’s going to be pretty cool. So that’s going to be in the morning sky, you know, probably around like

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Chris Beckett: You know, four or 5AM. You can see the moon passing by Venus and towards the end of the month, Venus is going to be right Regulus which isn’t Leo.

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Chris Beckett: It’s going to be a pretty close conjunction there and early October.

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Chris Beckett: And then Mars. This is like pretty much one of the best opposition’s

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Chris Beckett: That we’re going to see for a long time and it’s it’s well under way and you know it’s just super bright just looks like a big bright orange.

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Chris Beckett: Ball in the sky and then through even the 60 millimeter. You can see the continents and the polar caps and think the atomic seemed like a dust cloud. And it’s, it’s pretty wild. And on the evening of the fifth and sixth

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Chris Beckett: In South America and the moon is going to pass in front of Mars. So that would be pretty cool. And let’s see what else Jupiter and Mars and Saturn. They’re all going to be stationary at some point.

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Chris Beckett: This month, and of course the moon is going to pair up with Jupiter and Saturn and Uranus is now rising before midnight, and it’s going to be at opposition.

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Chris Beckett: Basically viewable all night long. On October 31

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Chris Beckett: Which is next month, but you know that’s that’s what it’s heading towards and Neptune actually reaches opposition this month on the 11th. SO WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD TO Shane.

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Shane Ludtke: Well, definitely, definitely looking for Mars.

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Shane Ludtke: It’s

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Shane Ludtke: You know, right now for me anyway where when it’s at its best spot in the sky. I’m in bed right now so I’m looking forward to

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Shane Ludtke: Being able to see it a little bit earlier in the evening and then that will be my primary focus for the next couple of months will be just to observe it as much as I can.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah.

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Shane Ludtke: Because, like you mentioned, this will be the best best year to observe it for quite a while and you know I think we’ve mentioned it a number of times before, but

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Shane Ludtke: Every two years Mars gets closer to earth. This happens to be that every second year where it’s, you know, doing it’s close approach and this approach happens to be closer than a number of the upcoming ones. So yeah, it’s definitely the time to observe

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Shane Ludtke: There’s no dust storms happening yet so we’ll keep our fingers crossed that that stays the same, because sometimes they do kick up on Mars, which means we can’t see much surface detail.

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Shane Ludtke: And wow, you know, I’ve been seeing some photographs that some folks have been taking like Damien peach. He’s a well known or well known Astro photographer.

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Shane Ludtke: If you haven’t seen him yet. Just check him out on Twitter because he is sending out planetary photos pretty regularly and he does a great job with them.

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Shane Ludtke: Another guy. We’ve talked about is Christopher go, although I’m not sure he looks at, or I don’t know if he acquires mini Mars for

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Chris Beckett: He’s not doing Mars right now. I was

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Chris Beckett: I was looking at his site now. I mean, he could have started but

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Chris Beckett: As of two or three weeks ago. He wasn’t shooting Mars at this time. I mean, it’s tough to, like, even though I’m not doing Astro imaging. I’m just sketching like

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Chris Beckett: I find two planets. That’s about all I can juggle. So I’m doing Mars and Venus right now because good

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Chris Beckett: Mars and Venus opposition’s are actually quite rare. And we’re we’re going through to the best that you can get

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Chris Beckett: Right now, whereas Saturn and Jupiter are low in the so if they’re actually not having really good opposition’s this year they’ll, they’ll start to get better next year in the year after for sure.

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Chris Beckett: So the idea of staying up late observing Jupiter and Saturn and then trying to turn around and do Venus and Mars in the morning skies is a little bit too much.

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Chris Beckett: For me, if I was if I wasn’t working. I would like that would be no problem. But, you know, like I said, and even teaching classes on top and and doing a course and

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Chris Beckett: Doing some other stuff. Like there’s only there’s only so much time in the day, even when you’re staying up half the night, you know. Yeah.

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Shane Ludtke: Totally, totally um you know another thing I’m

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Shane Ludtke: I’m excited for but I don’t know if it will happen is

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Shane Ludtke: For new moon in September. I’m really hoping to get down to our favorite place to observe, which is grasslands National Park.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah.

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Shane Ludtke: There should be far less traffic there so you know the covert risks, hopefully will be reduced as a result.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah.

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Shane Ludtke: But what I’d like to do in the fall like September timeframe is it’s definitely you know it’s cooling off, but it’s still so much warmer than it’s going to be in December timeframe.

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Shane Ludtke: And it’s really nice to get to a dark site and stay up late because you start to see some of the winter constellations come

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Shane Ludtke: Down. You know, like I Ryan tourists like you really get to observe some of these constellations and objects within them without having to, you know, under while where we live, you know, negative 22 degrees Celsius temperatures would be probably a warm night in

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Chris Beckett: Early January.

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Shane Ludtke: Whatever or yeah yeah

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Shane Ludtke: Or July. Yeah, yeah. Gee, thanks. Honestly, I’m a little confused.

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Shane Ludtke: But yeah, the to be able to do it in September when it’s, you know, not too bad outside is a real treat. So I’m hoping to get some of that done as well.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah, I took a day off work to

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Chris Beckett: To sort of pad an extra day in there so that maybe we can get down and do it would be would be awesome September 2 we have full moon though so much to see there

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Shane Ludtke: Well, let’s talk about that though, right, that’ll be the Harvest Moon.

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Shane Ludtke: Is it. I think it is, isn’t it, I

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Chris Beckett: Don’t know.

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Shane Ludtke: Well, I believe it is. And because I think that it typically rises at about like 9pm or something like that or or 8pm somewhere around there. And one of the common things that I hear what you know what if I’m at work or

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Shane Ludtke: Family

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Chris Beckett: It’s October 1 that’s that because the one I’m just looking this up online, the one closest to the optimal equinox.

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Shane Ludtke: Okay.

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Chris Beckett: Okay, which is the 23rd, so

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Shane Ludtke: Okay, well the next two full moons, so

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Shane Ludtke: Definitely September, and then the Harvest Moon. The October moon.

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Shane Ludtke: They rise, kind of at a, at a time where people can witness the rise, you know, because most people are up at that point and I

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Shane Ludtke: You know, I often hear that it’s such a big move and it’s much larger in the fall, than any other time of the year and

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Shane Ludtke: I think it’s really just because there’s more because it’s so close to the horizon. You can contrast it or compare it to, you know, various objects. You know, like a green elevator or a building or something like that.

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Shane Ludtke: Whereas when it’s you know right overhead, you really have no perception of how big you know the disk of the moon is so it’s always interesting to me that that some people, you know, believe the moon is so much larger at this time of the year.

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Chris Beckett: Or that Mars will be as large as the full moon and you can actually make a great comparison. On September 6 when Mars is going to be

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Chris Beckett: Point oh three degrees so of the moon. And it’s actually an occultation for like holding its south america very day and North Africa and southern Europe, perhaps, so we won’t get in here, but it’s gonna get awful close like really, really close to, to the moon. So that’s going to be nice.

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Chris Beckett: I haven’t seen this in a while, but it used to be. Every or every year. So there would be the email that would go around.

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Chris Beckett: And say Mars will be as large as the full moon.

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Chris Beckett: Yep, and where that can, you know, you’ve seen that as well.

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Shane Ludtke: Yeah, that started I think with the 2003 opposition.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah, because we have that very end. What happened was somebody, somebody misquoted an astronomer and they had said that

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Chris Beckett: You know, it’s still difficult to see that much on Mars, because even through a telescope Mars will only appear

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Chris Beckett: As the full moon does to the unaided I

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Chris Beckett: And so that it got twisted around to say somebody either by accident or what. And then of course the internet trolls going to get ahold of this just loved it.

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Chris Beckett: And just continually put it out to every year, though it seems to calm down and in recent years. But yes, through the telescope, it will appear as large perhaps as the or you can see the details on on the surface of Mars about as well as you can see the features on on the moon.

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Shane Ludtke: That’s a great comparison.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah, so it, it’s tough. I don’t know how how good a comparison. That is because I mean like recently, I’m looking at the polar caps shrinking on

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Chris Beckett: On Mars, and I mean there’s no polar cap on the moon. That’d be cool or not that we can really see any way there might be some

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Chris Beckett: You know aces in a crater somewhere.

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Chris Beckett: But you can see quite a bit. You can also see the rotation of Mars. So these are things you just can’t see them.

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Chris Beckett: Matter what you have to look through

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Shane Ludtke: Yeah definitely some different features there.

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Shane Ludtke: But what what is kind of interesting about that comparison is Mars similar to our moon has some dark regions on its surface.

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Shane Ludtke: Mm hmm. That you know that that’s what we’re really looking for as astronomers is that you know those darker zones versus the lighter zones.

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Shane Ludtke: And then the polar caps, of course, are fairly distinct and unique when it comes to looking at Mars, but like service major really reminds me of some of the mores of the moon.

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Shane Ludtke: You know those dark regions.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah, it does. I yeah yeah yeah it does for sure. The north polar cap, though, is is tough right now because it’s

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Chris Beckett: Around northern winter so it’s tilted away the south polar cap those its way out in the desert, just depending on which night you’re looking at. And I noticed that yesterday morning it was it was close to the limb, but

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Chris Beckett: Earlier in the week it was it was way harder. Maybe we can go, it was way out in the in the desert, just because it sort of, I think it sort of sits a little bit off the pole anyway.

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Chris Beckett: Remarkable. It’s just amazing to to be watching that. So over the past couple months, as I’ve been watching you can actually detect that the south polar cap is is shrinking quite a bit.

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Shane Ludtke: Well that’s pretty cool. See ya see a season changing on another planet.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah, yeah, it’s pretty neat. I think especially during these times when things seem

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Chris Beckett: So,

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Chris Beckett: So challenging in our, in our own lives.

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Chris Beckett: So let’s see. Uranus is going to be three degrees north of the moon. On September 7 so that’ll be a good chance to see it, though. The moon is is just a boat. Well, just past fall, but it’s

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Chris Beckett: Only five days past full. So it’s going to be like a three quarters moon, but could be a good opportunity to try to hunt down Uranus Uranus is fairly bright and uses from 5.7 or something like that. So,

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Chris Beckett: Um, could be an opportunity to see it there. Have you seen Uranus through through your own telescopes. Yeah.

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Shane Ludtke: Well I many, many years ago when I had an eight inch Sony and I observed it a few times and was able to pull out some of that color of Uranus.

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Shane Ludtke: It’s hard to really distinguish like there’s a little bit of a disk there, but it’s really hard to see, you know, like if you could mistake it for Star quite easy.

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Shane Ludtke: I’ve never tried it, though with any of my current refractor is that I have. So I’d like to try both Uranus and Neptune.

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Shane Ludtke: Gamma factors to see what it looks like.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah, and it will be it’ll be up, you know, pretty high around the minute, hour or so. So you should have a good chance that

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Chris Beckett: Mars is stationary on the ninth so

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Chris Beckett: Few of the planets are stationary and Jupiter stationary and 13th and Saturn is stationary

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Chris Beckett: The 29th of September. And what happens is that the planets are an orbit around the sun. And we are also in orbit around the sun. And as we kind of catch up to these planets, because their planets that are outside of our orbit or outside of Earth’s orbit, making them superior planets.

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Chris Beckett: As we go past them the the sort of a pure at a standstill, against the background stars.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah, I’m not going to get

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Chris Beckett: Too much more of that but if

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Chris Beckett: If people are really paying close attention, they might see that, of course, when really people’s saw this it especially with Mars is it’s it’s quite apparent.

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Chris Beckett: Credit sort of the problem of the planets which which took quite a long time till T. Cobra, I mean his observations and then eventually Kepler and get his hands on them and and it was able to kind of sorted out around the turn of the sort of 1600 timeframe.

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Shane Ludtke: Very interesting.

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Chris Beckett: Let’s see, September 14 the Moon and Venus are going to pair up Venus is going to be four degrees. So the moon.

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Chris Beckett: The moon is just a thin sliver of a crescent that night. That’ll be I think that’d be worth getting up for. I think you should get up that morning. I’m going to, I’m going to make change it up and I’m, sir.

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Shane Ludtke: Good, good luck with that.

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Shane Ludtke: But I do like a slim like a very slim crescent moon. I think they’re very steadily pleasing. They’re quite beautiful and

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Shane Ludtke: The neat thing is like you again. You just need your eyes for that, although telescope and binoculars are pretty cool too. For for the thin crescent

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Chris Beckett: Yeah, there’s also a double shadow transit.

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Chris Beckett: On Jupiter, which I think would be around midnight or time should have put that more closely, but

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Chris Beckett: Starting on the 15th. So we have this Zodiacal Light.

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Chris Beckett: Going to be visible. I don’t know how they get it down to like a certain day so I looked up last year’s and it was like the 17th or something like that. And I was like,

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Chris Beckett: What’s the difference in the last year and this year. I don’t know. I guess it’s because they line it up with the new moon, more or less, so

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Shane Ludtke: I don’t ever talked about the dynamical late

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Chris Beckett: No, I don’t think we have. So do you want to, you want to explain it.

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Shane Ludtke: Well, um,

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Shane Ludtke: I need to look it up. So I get the details.

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Shane Ludtke: Basically for

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Chris Beckett: Interstellar interplanetary dust.

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Chris Beckett: Really is what it is.

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Chris Beckett: And so the solar system is essentially we think about it one way anyway, like a record.

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Chris Beckett: That cuts across the night sky. Of course, when you go out, you can’t really see that line. But what you would be able to see on on these names, starting in mid September is

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Chris Beckett: Until around October 1 so if you’re up in the morning and you can see this pill. You need to be somewhere recently dark doesn’t need to be the darkest place the world.

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Chris Beckett: But you can see kind of this this sort of oddly shaped pillar of light and the great part now and they don’t say this in, or I don’t see my notes, but because Venus is Venus is going to be in that pillar, because of course Venus is in the Zodiac and the ecliptic plane some no.

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Shane Ludtke: No, that’s kind of a neat alignment.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah, that’s one way to actually sort it out other Venus, but that point is going to be so bright that might sort of overpower the city.

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Shane Ludtke: And we’ve seen it before. So we live in a city of, I don’t know. It’s 200 to 250,000 people and you know we’ve seen it only driving maybe 10 kilometers or 20 kilometers outside of our city not super dark still within light pollution ring.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah yeah should be good. And then coming along towards the 22nd September 22 we’re going to have mercury three degrees north of spyker morning sky so

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Shane Ludtke: I’ve heard it can. I’ve heard it can get cold in October. I heard that.

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Chris Beckett: I think, I think you’re referring to.

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Chris Beckett: Referring to the time where we went down to grasslands drove the three plus hours to get there. And if October, it’s like it was warm that day.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah, I didn’t. Yeah, I’ve never seen it quite go that cold from being like 2020 billion in Nova Scotia. It’s 20 degrees.

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Chris Beckett: Enough not really be able to warm up in the tents. If you were just going out. So I’m certainly on camping and cold weather before, but you’re kind of moving. And the trick is you kind of

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Chris Beckett: Eat and then get ready for bed. Then you go to bed and you’re reasonably warm, even if it’s really cold you get in the tent and you kind of warm up a bit and go to sleep.

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Chris Beckett: Whatever, it’s fine. But when we’re going out and we’re staying up until two or three o’clock in the morning and and I did that once, for it was like minus five or minus six. And then that was just too cold.

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Chris Beckett: For me anyway because I just could never WARM, WARM UP. I was frozen and then not moving around. Yeah, it was, it was bad. So

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Shane Ludtke: Yeah, it becomes a little bit challenging when you observe in a cold location. And usually what ends the observing is you just get too cold. You know, you’re, you’re uncomfortable, you’re done. Well, when the only option is to get into a tent with a cold sleeping.

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Shane Ludtke: It’s just not a wonderful proposition.

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Chris Beckett: No, no, not good that night. Yeah, because we debated whether we drive home or just go to bed and try to, you know, stay warm. I mean, you know, that’s done, those aren’t good options.

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Chris Beckett: So anyway, hopefully, you know, September September can be good. Typically, it’s not that cold and we’ve been down as late as the end of September. It’s never getting cold, cold in September and we’re good into, you know, I’m good to minus five or so.

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Chris Beckett: But, you know, if it’s minus five by sunset in trouble. So, yeah.

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Chris Beckett: Alright, so the 24th. We have the first quarter moon. And then on the 25th that moon is going to line up with Jupiter and Saturn Jupiter is just going to be 1.6 degrees north of the moon.

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Shane Ludtke: That’s pretty cool. And, you know, we’ve been talking a lot about Mars and we’re excited for it, but probably September will be the last month to have, you know, good views of Jupiter and Saturn.

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Shane Ludtke: After, after September, they’re probably getting a little too low on the horizon. To really get anything to really have any kind of good quality view. So yeah, log of, you know, I’m, I’m definitely going to log a few more views of Jupiter and Saturn before they kind of disappear for the year.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah, yeah, that that’s a good plan.

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Chris Beckett: And that’s, that’s sort of those are sort of the highlights of the sort of what’s up and then anytime skies for is, you know, the planets and the moon and a few other things go but

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Chris Beckett: What do you if we do go down into dark skies and the middle of the month, but what are you going to be looking forward to seeing chain.

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Shane Ludtke: Well, I think I’ll do a combination of two things in. They both have the same theme.

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Shane Ludtke: I’ll take my TV Genesis SDF refractor

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Shane Ludtke: Okay. And I want to continue observing the objects that Stephen James a mirror listed in what is it deep sky gems, I think.

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Shane Ludtke: He I think he, he, there’s, I think there’s around 100 objects in that book all

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Shane Ludtke: See how close I got to what he’s able to see because he’s probably one of the best visual observers around

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Shane Ludtke: Yeah, seems he’s not only does he have really good skies, but he’s just a really good observer. So I’d like to see what I can come up with.

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Shane Ludtke: Probably some fall objects and then like I said earlier, what intrigues me about September is you can kind of do winter observing if you stay up late.

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Shane Ludtke: You’ll see the winter constellations, but it’ll be much more comfortable. So again, look at some winter objects that are in o’meara’s book.

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Chris Beckett: Hmm. Sounds good plan. Yeah.

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Chris Beckett: 1030 or 11 and and you know look at Milky Way objects like I really like look at the area in around Sagittarius, like the lagoon Nebula and the region as is really beautiful, which is a star from your region and Sagittarius.

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Chris Beckett: And you know it’d be really nice just to be able to put it on, you know, some of those objects and then just have a track, maybe, maybe do some some sketching.

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Chris Beckett: And then, oh, I want to really take a look at the North American nebula an individual my class sent me this beautiful

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Chris Beckett: With a sketch and then kind of maybe writing a journal article about about the North American and Berlin putting his photo of my sketch together. I thought that would be kind of kind of a neat thing. I kind of like to do that.

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Chris Beckett: Get sort of his input on that I thought might be an interesting way to to include a he’s not a new observer, but but sort of different perspective, probably is the way to put it. So yeah, that’s, that’s one of my things and then probably

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Chris Beckett: You know, taking a good look at like Bernards flu or they get Sharpless to dash 64 which is the angel fish nebula up around lambda rinus which is the head of a Ryan.

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Chris Beckett: You know, just some some things like that and then just kind of take a bit of a cruise around. Yeah. Maybe we’ll take a look at the California nebula Perseus just been a while since sort of an open ended or the dark sky and yeah

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Shane Ludtke: Yeah, nice, nice one. My plan might get derailed and I might end up just looking at a lot of pretty objects that I’ve seen before, just because it’s been so long since I’ve been under a nice dark sky.

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Shane Ludtke: It’ll be kind of neat to like if we both are running hundred millimeter telescopes with two different focal lengths. It might be kind of neat to compare some of the views as well.

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Chris Beckett: Yeah, that’s right. Yeah, you’re going to have yours, which is 120 millimeters

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Shane Ludtke: Hundred and One millimeter aperture 540 millimeter focal length.

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Chris Beckett: Particular like envelope. This is an autumn object be nice to take a look at something like the helix, which is a helix nebulae, which is a planetary nebula, which is a star that

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Chris Beckett: We definitely look forward to that. So yeah, that’d be that’d be nice for sure to dream, hopefully. Hopefully the weather doesn’t turn him head.

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Chris Beckett: So many nice days like it kind of feels like you know we’re living on borrowed time, in a way, because I think I put I put a sweater on this morning to go for for a walk. I walk virtually every morning.

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Chris Beckett: You know, we had, like, you know, three and a half months of snow and winter weather like you would expect living out here and then sign came out and melted all away is gone by the third or fourth week of March. No, no big deal.

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Chris Beckett: And I thought, I don’t know what people are complaining about so much and then there was one year where it didn’t, it didn’t snow on the first of September here, but it did snow in places around here.

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Chris Beckett: And certainly a can, like, we can get snow here as it really is the first week of September, not warmed up after that. But that was a little bit of an eye opener.

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Chris Beckett: When we had that whether that was particularly unkind and then we’ve certainly had years since now where you know it snows on honor, but the first of October, and you never see your lawn again until, until sometime well into April.

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Shane Ludtke: I have a little bit of a comet update for September as well.

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Shane Ludtke: I don’t know. No. So Neil wise is still visible but you know dimming more and more every day.

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Shane Ludtke: Use six lemon. They’ll all be around ninth or 10th magnitude at the store.

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Shane Ludtke: Yeah, okay.

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Shane Ludtke: And in fact, those are actually those three that I just listed are actually probably not that bright anymore. That was at the beginning of August. They weren’t that great and then feeding through the month but

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Shane Ludtke: Anyway, how will be the brightest comment up there if anybody’s interested in looking at a comet.

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Chris Beckett: Wow, cool.

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Shane Ludtke: Know, that’s all, that’s all that I have on my list as we get closer to the new moon. And if the weather’s looking good. I’ll get a little more serious about planning.

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Shane Ludtke: My observing sessions for grasslands, but until then it’ll just be a lot of backyard observing continuing to look at Jupiter and Saturn and you know more and more Mars as it rises earlier and earlier every night.

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Shane Ludtke: Point. Yeah, like that.

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Chris Beckett: And maybe we should think about doing that, maybe, towards the end of September would be good.

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Shane Ludtke: Good idea.

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Shane Ludtke: Yeah. Thank you, Chris, and thank you everybody for supporting the podcast.

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Chris Beckett: And how can people get in touch less or stay in touch with us, you’ve got like Twitter and some email addresses, I think.

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Shane Ludtke: Yeah so Twitter where we are actual astronomy.

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Shane Ludtke: We are on YouTube, so you can leave comments there and we’ll definitely reply and then also email us. We are actual Astronomy at GMAIL. COM

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Chris Beckett: Great, thanks. Shane.

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Shane Ludtke: Thank you, Chris.

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