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    Carl Sagan's Many Mistakes

    You want against the mainstream in an astronomy message board,
    you would be hard-pressed to go any more against it than to whisper
    a discouraging word about the late Carl Sagan.

    I wrote to him repeatedly about his numerous errors, biases, and outright misstatements in Cosmos, Pale Blue Dot, Demon Haunted World, and other books he wrote. Carl merely responded by asking me to buy his latest book.

    He utterly ignored every objection I had. Every single one.
    Dodge and weave. That was his response.

    Although he characterized himself as an "agnostic," he vehemently railed against God, after the fashion of a true atheist.

    Sagan said "We will spread throughout the Milky Way." I do not take statements out of context. However Sagan loyalists have inerrantly sought to make such comments stick.

    Sagan said "Sex was invented." End of sentence. There was nothing before it or after to qualify it in the slightest regard.

    Let me say it plainly: Sex was NOT "invented." An invention is specifically man-made. No kind of sex between animal species was devised, developed, or invented by any human.

    Sagan lamented the overcrowding of humans on earth. He said we have an excess. With his wife, Ann Druyan, Sagan fathered five children.

    What hypocrisy.

    Sagan often spoke very glowingly of "scientists," claiming that although they had their SLIGHT imperfections, "some cheat and steal", e.g., on the whole they were SO much better than those nasty army generals who were so "eager to kill one another."

    Ah yes, General George Washington, our pre-eminent Founding Father, without which no America. How "EAGER" he was to kill British soldiers, and for no good reason at all.

    And so let the defense of Carl the leftist begin. I may even cite a few dozen of his more inane comments by book and page, although it might be hard to top "Sex was invented."

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    No you won't cite a few dozen of his more inane comments. Please read the rules for posting to the board, they are linked at the bottom of this post. I don't see anything in your rant against Carl Sagan that would qualify as an ATM idea within the rules of thre board. Thread Locked
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    No you won't cite a few dozen of his more inane comments. Please read the rules for posting to the board, they are linked at the bottom of this post. I don't see anything in your rant against Carl Sagan that would qualify as an ATM idea within the rules of thre (sic) board. Thread Locked

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    My Heroes

    Carl Sagan
    Richard Dawkins
    Isaac Asimov
    Barack Obama
    Harry Reid
    Ted Kennedy
    Robert Byrd
    Bill Clinton
    Al Gore
    Al Sharpton
    Jesse Jackson



    Oh, and of course Charles Darwin.

    "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" -- Charles Darwin

    Mmmm hmmmm.

    Why then are Al Gore and his merry band of AGW followers so perfectly cocksure of themselves?

    Howbeit that anyone questioning the tiniest aspect of all life arising from the primordial ooze is instantly branded as ignorant, stupid, anti-science, and a bible-thumper? How does that pass scientific muster?

    Why do atheists relentlessly paint themselves as intellectually superior to "fundies," which pejorative of course is applied liberally to any and all Christians?

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    RenaissanceMan,

    A moderator has already explained the purpose of the ATM forum to you so you should know that it's not the place to rail against atheists. This thread is closed.


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    Closed Thread Nonsense

    This is a first for me, seeing more closed threads than open ones.

    It is particularly amusing when the very SUBJECT is "Against the Mainstream."

    One wonders WHOSE "Mainstream," exactly.

    Evidently Bad Astronomy and Universe exists for the amusement of the Moderators.

    It is aptly named.

    Now please close this thread. It's one thing the "Moderators" do very well.
    Perhaps the only thing.

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    Another thread merged.


    RenaissanceMan, if you really wish to present an idea to the readers of the forum, you'll need to learn to do it within the rules. Please read the links in my signature to find the rules - and also advice on how to conduct an ATM discussion.
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    IF you had read the rules for the ATM Forum you would have seen that the threads close after 30 days, it's part of the system, no Mod action needed
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