Sound in space.

[aastrotech]

Since we don't know how the propulsion, power generation, weapons or even "radios" work in scifi we can't say that a person in space couldn't hear the "radio" emissions from things in space. Even if "sounds" (emissions) weren't coming through their "radios" they could still be picked up by the structure of the ship or some piece of equipment. Even a rock drifting by could be heard if the rock was emitting radiation or if the "radio" used some kind of gravitational or spacetime process. A person being "spaced" could probably hear his own blood or fluids in his ear boiling.

[Spoons]

That's some bizarre musings. Where did this thought come from?

[Spoons]

A person being "spaced" could probably hear his own blood or fluids in his ear boiling.

That's gotta go in my signature line. I'm sorry if it's meant to be serious, I just can't help bursting out laughing when I read that sentence. It's stunningly weird.

[HenrikOlsen]

That comes close to my common retcon for engine sounds in space, which is that it's unshielded ER interference picked up by the comm system's amplifiers.

[KaiYeves]

I was reading an issue of Marvel Adventures Iron Man where they actually didn't have sound in space and the speech bubbles were indicated to be Iron Man and Living Laser speaking by radio. Smart comics writer.

[sohh_fly]

A rock band in space and i don't mean apophis.
how neat is that?

but I thot sound does not travel thru space?

[GalacticBeatDown]

Talking about sounds in space, when the Cassini spacecraft did a flyby of Saturn in 2004 it picked up some radio emissions. When I went on Youtube to listen to this it was absolutely remarkable. It was very beautiful music I was listening to. Also in the video I watched it said that a team at the University of Iowa reduced the signal by a factor of 5 so humans would be able to hear it. The video I saw also had the original radio emission sounds and a supposed edited version that sounds like alien speech. But I doubt that aliens are hiding in the rings of Saturn.

[sohh_fly]

what is the possibilty of those noises's coming from the spacecraft itself somehow?
those noise's are creepy.

[GalacticBeatDown]

They could be coming from the spacecraft but I would assume that that is unlikely. One possibility was given that it could have been the chunks of ice in the rings smashing against each other.

[novaderrik]

That comes close to my common retcon for engine sounds in space, which is that it's unshielded ER interference picked up by the comm system's amplifiers.

or it could somehow be amplified by the hull of the ship that houses the camera that is filming it.

[aastrotech]

That's gotta go in my signature line. I'm sorry if it's meant to be serious, I just can't help bursting out laughing when I read that sentence. It's stunningly weird.

Well thank you. Sometimes I just can't help putting in some gore to illustrate a point.

[HenrikOlsen]

or it could somehow be amplified by the hull of the ship that houses the camera that is filming it.

Wouldn't that require it to be sound rather than radio noise?

[novaderrik]

Wouldn't that require it to be sound rather than radio noise?

not if there are some sort of particulates from the exhaust that are hitting the hull like a sort of pressure wave.
or something like that.
or maybe there is some sort of interaction between the radiation that is being given off and the material that the hull of the receiving ship.
maybe there are some smart people around here that aren't high school dropouts that can better explain what i'm thinking..

[aastrotech]

or maybe there is some sort of interaction between the radiation that is being given off and the material that the hull of the receiving ship.
maybe there are some smart people around here that aren't high school dropouts that can better explain what i'm thinking..

Sure, the material of the hull or canopy could pick up radio. Equipment on board could pick it up. There are reports that even tooth fillings can pick up radio.

[aastrotech]

That's some bizarre musings. Where did this thought come from?

It comes as a dispute of a common argument that it is bad astronomy for movies to have sounds coming from spaceships, weapons and explosions.

[Spoons]

Are you talking about Norm, from the Hal Institute for Criminally Insane Robots?

[Gemini]

^What's a horce? :P

[Spoons]

I'm glad you arxed. In the future the letter 'S' is in chort cupply

[Chacal]

...The video I saw also had the original radio emission sounds and a supposed edited version that sounds like alien speech.

Nothing but Fithp radio chatter.

[Chacal]

I'm glad you arxed. In the future the letter 'S' is in chort cupply

So you better kiss your "S" goodbye.

[Parrothead]

Have been doing some straightening up/cleaning in the crawlspace. One of the things I found in one box is Nat. Geo.'s Our Universe SpaceKit (1980), an addition to a coffeetable book. The set includes a cardboard telescope which you use to view film strips with a variety of pictures/concept artwork, a planisphere and a flimsy plastic record "space sounds". The tracks/bands include:

Introduction - rocket launch, satellite signals, lava boiling up from the Earth's crust.

Track 1 - From Sun Gods to Science - recreation of an Egyptian hymn to Ra, present day Sioux Indians in a traditional song and dance to the Sun. The narrator gives a quick overview of Kepler and his idea of planetary harmonies, followed by a computer-sound synthesizer playing the "sounds" of Mercury, Venus, Earth and other planets. Track concludes with ocean waves and cries of seagulls.

Track 2 - The Planets are Born - Thunder, rain, volcano eruption (recorded in Hawaii). Sounds of actual earthquakes to suggest what moonquakes or marsquakes may be like. Finishes with the sound of the launch of Apollo 11.

Track 3 - Energy from Space - Coded signals from Mariner 4 followed by an IMP satellite. Energetic music in a sweep of frquencies simulating the range of the electromagnetic spectrum from high energy gamma rays to low energy radio waves. A train horn helps demonstrate the movement of energy in space. Concludes with radio waves from the Sun and to electronic activity in Earth's magnetosphere - "whistler's, the "dawn chorus" and the mysterious "lion's roar".

Track 4 - Exploring the Universe - JPL July 1976, excited voices of controllers as they monitored the landing of Viking on Mars. Voyager hitting Jupiter's "bow-shock" and hear Jupiter's chirping dawn chorus. Actual radio pulses from stars and from M87. Concludes with the radio message sent from Arecibo in 1974 sent towards M13.

[nomuse]

Heh Parrothead. (Yer not a, you know, Buffet fan are you...?)

I was thinking along similar lines to that record you describe for parts of an oratorio I was scribbling on. Not that I could actually write one, you know, but I felt that with such great religious music out there, there really should be a massive secular oratorio celebrating the history of astronomy.

For some reason, though, it didn't occur to me to incorporate actual radio noise, or any of the other translations of data streams into sound/musical pitches that I've heard over the years. In retrospect it seems so obvious...

(I did plan to have a virtuoso solo on glass armonica in the Second Movement; the Music of the Spheres...)