Many are just trying to pick a fight. ONG seems to have been this way, Tezzer was as well. Others are frustrated that nobody else sees what they do. A certain 84 page thread recently closed on the General Astronomy section of the BABB comes to mind.
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Many are just trying to pick a fight. ONG seems to have been this way, Tezzer was as well. Others are frustrated that nobody else sees what they do. A certain 84 page thread recently closed on the General Astronomy section of the BABB comes to mind.
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l must have missed that. 8)Originally Posted by frenat
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I can't imagine how. :wink:
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I honestly feel these folks don't realize how many professionals frequent this board and aren't prepared for the educated answers with which they're presented.
I was rather tickled by some of the comments from other posters on the "Pravda" board.
I'm just a Computer Tech and HAM Radio Op. Most of the answers are lost on me - but that's ok. My feet are firmly entrenched in reality and having grown up during the Apollo era and having just a bit of common sense is enough to "give battle" to one of these...er...uhm...persons.
Others may disagree but I happen to think using common sense is sufficient enough to see many of the flaws in their thinking.
Mike - W8UBH
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It's not just the professionals. The talent of some of the non-profesionals on here is pretty impressive also. Those people have learned a lot from the professionals and can give as good of an explanation as the pros on some things. Of course, there is just something about a BA, or JayUtah, or Tim Thompson or Celestial Mechanic post (among others) that is a beauty to behold.
Heheheh, yeah, page18 knew Ong had no chance.
Mostly true, but there are times when I can't determine whether it was just a misunderstanding, the other person didn't want to see the light, or the other person was being intentionally provocative.
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Hello,all.Isee that Ong was a real hit!You have a real nice board here.Think I'll hang around if it alright.
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Welcome! Glad to have you here! All we ask is that you read and follow the FAQ and I'm sure you will learn alot from people like JayUtah and the BA 8) and jscotti plus many others!
Good Luck!
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yah. Welcome to the board!! :-D
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Ay captain I have read the faqs.I dont have an internet fishing permit,so no trolling from me. Starbuck chased Ong all the way back to the funny farm.Pretty good rebuttals all the way around here.Anyhow,have agood night.
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Hmm, I seem to have let one in through the Out door...
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And how on earth is your post count still at one?!
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Starbuck,you have 'misoverestimated'me.I wouldnt have the fortitude to post over there.As for post counts it seems that a lot of forum software does that to new members.Leta see what it says now.
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It seems tro of messed up. It says you have 3 posts but when i check your profile, you reallty have 5. Weird.
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Yes Humphrey,its weird.Lots of boards have problems like that.Im not too good with computers but "Mysql" errors are common.This might go hand in hand with the "critical error, database unreachable" errors that seem to be going on around here.Beats me.
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You want to know really weird? go to membederlist and have it sort by date. See who was the first poster to register for this board. :-)
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'69!!!!HoHoHo!That IS weird.
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MySQL is the lanaguage programs use to query the database. It's much more likely that with the database becoming this size that the qureys are goofing up and the database is becoming slightly corrupted. Unsure if that's really it though. As to the '69 error. I belief that is the lowest date the DATE type can store in this century.
Back to the actual topic, I read the entire thing and it seemed that really he only had a few topics and then when reading the linked thread *sigh* People's mind are sometimes just set in stone
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It SEEMS (seems, mind you), judging by the evidence, starnut's post count is equal to x-2 where x is their actual number of posts.
It bears further research. I need a grant. Anybody got a spare grant?
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Starbuck,I have a six pack and a dozen donuts if that will helpI think Sakura hit the nail though :-k
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Awesome job guys, I enjoyed this quite a bit. Although I may not be all that smart, I feel smarter after reading this.
I resent that. 8) I think I'm one of the saner people on that site.Perhaps not though; did you look back at the parent site that threat came from? That is one sick group of people.
By the way, if JayUtah(I believe)would want to go to that site and use his knowlege on the Holocaust to refute claims that it was a fake, it would actually be appreciated. I'm sick and tired of people like Ong saying it wasn't real.
Sorry, a bit off topic, I know. Forgive me.
Other than that, this was a verygood read. Thanks a bunch fellas.
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I've got plenty of spare granite out back , I use it to.....oh,grant. Uh.... but... Uh... Awwwwww 8-[
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Welcome to the board pg18!!!! :-D Kick back, post and stay a while.
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I believe Stuart is the man you're looking for in that case.
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Dr Plait, its not that they find staying polite hard, its their deliberate policy not to do so. This is something that I've noticed in a lot of boards of varying types. Somebody turns up making contentious claims of varying sorts, then, when they lose the argument they start screaming insults at the other participants. When the administration steps in they start yelling abuse at the administrators (and usually screaming about "free speech" into the bargain). The obvious result is that they get banned - and that was the whole point of the exercise. The next step is that the troll in question goes back to their home board and claims that they had been banned because they'd won the argument. Ong is doing that now - he's claiming that he won the debate here and was banned as a consequence.
These things seem to run in fashions; the previous one was to turn up and pose a string of heavily-loaded "questions" then, when they are comprehensively demolished, the person responsible claims they "were only asking" squeals about "free speech" and vanishes in a huff. Again, he goes back to his home community and tells everybody that nobody could give him any answers to his "questions".
Trolls like Ong are hard to deal with because banning them gives them what they want. Ong's intention here was to get banned from the moment he made his first post. On our board we made a little experiment with a person of this type, we simply ignored him. The abuse and language he was using got fouller and fouller as he tried to get himself banned and, in the end he stumped off. Didn't do any good, he still claimed he'd been banned because he'd "won all the arguments".
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I have been working a lot lately, and missed this thread until now. Stuart hit it on the head. This one reminds me of the "Paulo Il magnifico" thing, he came in asking for opinions on things, then became abusive and demanded to be banned, and ultimately the BA 8) blew him to bytes. Maybe out in woo-woo land, there is a medal awarded to trolls who get banned from this board. I thought Jay answered his questions quite well on the first page of this thread, but he had to get up and try to beat the same dead horse with a broken stick.
BTW Humphrey, you are coming close to the "Kilopi Limit". What are you prepared to do?
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Most inciteful, Stuart. By getting themselves banned, they can accuse us of what we accuse Jack White: banning those that threaten our cheery walled in garden. That's why BA probably hates doing it. If every HBer who comes along gets banned, it doesn't reflect well on us.
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I'm not sure thats necessarily true. The reason there aren't many calm, rational HB's is that if they were calm and rational, they wouldn't be HB's.Trolls like Ong are hard to deal with because banning them gives them what they want. Ong's intention here was to get banned from the moment he made his first post.
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I don't know. Ong seemed pretty calm and rational when he arrived. But I take your point that those who are calm and rational tend not be ardent HBers for long.
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Most conspiracists are adept and sneaking in like a lamb, even when their aim is to go out like a lion. "I have some questions about the moon landings..." etc., followed by the standard Sibrellian or Collieresque arguments. At Apollohoax we've seen it quite often.
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Not to mention here. unclejim and Santa come to mind.
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Well, you can hardly expect someone to open with "I have some easily refuted questions about the moon landings which I will post until everyone is annoyed with me and I have a colossal meltdown."
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