# Thread: Stevie Wonder and science.

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## Stevie Wonder and science.

There's a great song by Stevie Wonder called "As." I believe it's on Innervisions.

Anyway, it's about loving someone until the end of time. Lovely, right? There's a line in the song:

"I'll be loving you until 8x8x8x8 is four."

And it's always intrigued me, so I looked it up because it didn't seem like random lyrical gibberish. Based on a google search, it either has to do with a deck of cards or physics. If it's the latter, someone here must understand the reference.

Can you explain it to me?

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I think it's just a poetic way of saying "forever".

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Probably ... but I found this in my search:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2429437/...ference-series

and it has to deal with four dimensions. Most of it I don't understand. I'm not a physicist and I can barely balance my checkbook -- so I cam here.

4. Originally Posted by shaka37
"I'll be loving you until 8x8x8x8 is four."
In fact it is "Until the day that 8x8x8 is 4" [about impossible things]. It´s 83 not 84.

Ok, nothing to do with astro.

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I found this stuff out on the net, but I have no idea if it's relevant (or even correct) . . .

In the cut "As" from Songs in the Key of Life, Stevie Wonder mentions the equation 8 x 8 x 8 x 8 = 4. Find all integers n for which this statement is true, molulo n.

Well, since x mod y = x-y*[x/y] ([] is the integer function), you know that n*[4096/n]=4092. This says that the only valid values are when n<=4092. Knowing this, I used by good ol' Qbasic to get all of the possible values for n. The equation holds only for values of n where n=6,11,12,22,31,33,44,62,66,93,124,132,186,341,372 ,682,1023,1364,2046, and 4092.

6. On the song the 8 is repeated 3 times not 4. So there´s no mathematical meaning.

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Actually, Argos ... it's sung both ways. In the beginning, he sings it using eight three times, and then in the end, he sings it again and uses eight four times, so it probably is, in fact, poetic nothingness and more likely done for the meter of the song (but it IS SUCH a good song).

Thanks for indulging me. I just thought perhaps Stevie was referencing something because it seemed less than random to me with the song also talking about sun and the sky and time.

8. maybe it has something to do with music theory.

8 beats a bar for 4:4, I dunno, it's been a while since I read about that stuff.

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That could be ...

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Originally Posted by Tucson_Tim
I found this stuff out on the net, but I have no idea if it's relevant (or even correct) . . .
The more I look at this post that I made, I think it is a student who was given a homework assignment based loosely on the verse of Stevie's song and the actual meaning of the verse is just what the others have stated: a unique way to say "forever".

11. Originally Posted by Frog march
8 beats a bar for 4:4, I dunno, it's been a while since I read about that stuff.
Four-by-four = 4 beats a bar.

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Originally Posted by Tucson_Tim
The more I look at this post that I made, I think it is a student who was given a homework assignment based loosely on the verse of Stevie's song and the actual meaning of the verse is just what the others have stated: a unique way to say "forever".
fair enough.

Thanks everyone!

13. I do like his other song, "Superstition", very much, though.

14. Originally Posted by Argos
Four-by-four = 4 beats a bar.

that's what I mean; until there are 8 beats per 4by4 bar, ie forever.

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