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  1. #31
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    Oooh, fun a survey. I'll make some notes, but I'm sure most of what I say has already been said (Sorry, haven't read through everyone's posts. That compromises the survey anyway ).

    1. Age
    26

    2. Gender
    Male

    3. Do you believe that people who see U.F.O.’s are actually seeing something in the sky, or are they just imagining things?
    -Imagining things
    -Actually seeing something

    Yes.
    By that I mean, I'm sure both are the case. I'd venture a guess that the purely-imagined sightings are a lot less common than mistakes in/failue to identify actualy objects/phenomenon.

    4. Do you believe that life exists in the universe somewhere other than Earth?
    - Yes
    -No

    Yes, most likely.

    5. Have you ever seen an U.F.O.?
    -Yes
    -No

    Depends on how litteral you want to be. I saw something that I am unable to identify with reasonable certianty; but it was most likely either a firework or a meteor. It didn't appear to be a craft of any sort.

    6. Do you believe UFO’s are extraterrestrial in origin (coming from somewhere other than earth) or terrestrial in origin (such as misidentification of airplanes, government craft, weather balloons, satellites ect.)
    -Terrestrial
    -Extra Terrestrial

    Some are terrestrial craft. I wouldn't give one blanket explanation for all sightings.

    7. Do you believe the government is hiding information about UFO’s
    -Yes
    -No

    No.

    8. Do you believe there is intelligent life somewhere in the universe with the capabilities of traveling to earth?
    -Yes
    -No

    No, but there's no proof one way or the other.

    9. Do you believe in your lifetime that scientists will find life somewhere else in the universe?
    -yes
    -no

    Probably not, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillianren View Post
    For one thing, the data seems skewed toward middle-aged guys. Happy birthday, Jay.
    That's not exactly what I was thinking, but true anyway.

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    1: 23 years 9 months.

    2: Haven't checked recently, but I was Male last I looked and a certainly don't remember having gender reassignment surgery...

    3: Your question here is a false dichotomy. The implication of the first answer is that those things seen are actually alien spacecraft, the other answer, that they are purely imaginary, doesn't fill the gap. There is a third answer, that they are seeing something, but they are misinterpreting what they are seeing. In any case, its also a generalisation. The fourth answer, the one i take, because taking the third option isnt enough, Is that some are misunderstood phenomenon, and others are hallucinations. As an example, I have, when tired, seen the moon to be wobbling (When its really just my eyes bouncing around due to muscle fatigue because my glasses prescription was no longer accurate due to worsening astigmatism).

    4: Yes. I do not believe it has come here, however. So far the radio has only been around for about a hundred years, so only entities within about a hundred light years would be potentially aware of us.

    5: Once. I am fairly certain in hindsight it was the ISS or other large orbital body, given its path of motion across the sky, brightness, and constant speed. Unfortunately, as I was heading to work at 5am I neglected to bring my binoculars (Its unidentified, but i have a fair few ideas as to what it was, essentially).

    6: Both. Asteroids, Comets, Venus, and Meteors can and do account for a goodly number of UFO reports i have seen. Other things, such as weather balloons and LSD, to name just two examples, account for others. Can i definitively prove that none of them were alien spacecraft? No, of course not. Proving a negative is generally so close to impossible that they argue over the upkeep of the fence. That is why the burden of proof is on the one proposing something. Something, i might add, that people arguing for alien contact have yet to do.

    7: No. There is no reason for them to do so. Especially given the current militant political climate. No, they would pimp any excuse to justify colossal military expenditure, and this would be one hell of a doozy. That aside, I find the notion that "The government is covering it up" to be a preposterous attempt to gain a special pleading when asked for evidence of these supposed visitations. "We had evidence dude, but The Man totally came and covered it up. You gotta believe us".

    Given the governments complete inability to hide scandalous information in the past, and indeed the present, coupled with the Internet and the ability to anonymously blow the whistle on secrets and the like (Through sources such as Wikileaks) I find it near impossible (As nothing that is physically possible can ever be impossible) to believe that there is any secret being hidden from the public on this matter. Again, as i said before, the only people who would have any evidence of our existence would be within a hundred light years of here. That's a small volume of space, really.

    8: Once again you have worded your question poorly. There is intelligent life in the universe capable of traveling to Earth. I have met some of them. They are an intellectually advanced (Compared to their relatives, at least) race of nearly hairless apes called Humans. They travel to earth repeatedly when they fall over using an ingenious source of propulsion called gravity. This is typically followed by ritual swearing and cursing, except outside supermarkets where it will instead be followed by litigation.

    However, to answer your question as it was probably intended:

    Yes. However I do not believe they are aware of us, as i have mentioned previously, nor do I believe that they are willing to expend the resources needed to do so. Technically speaking, if we pooled our resources as a species we could easily, without much, if anything in the form of technological advances, build a generational ship to travel to another star system.

    9: Unknown. I'm always willing to hope, but the odds of us finding life outside our solar system within our lifetime are rather bleak. In our solar system, on either Mars, Europa or Titan are probably our best bets, though the latter is more unlikely than the former two, at least by my reckoning, and given this is a survey of sorts, I guess thats the only thing that really matters

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    1. Age
    45

    2. Gender
    Male

    3. Do you believe that people who see U.F.O.’s are actually seeing something in the sky, or are they just imagining things?

    Actually seeing something, but nothing manufactured by "Alien Technologies"

    4. Do you believe that life exists in the universe somewhere other than Earth?
    - Yes
    -No
    Believe? no, do I think that it's possible that life might have developed outside the earth? yes I do.

    5. Have you ever seen an U.F.O.?
    -Yes
    -No
    Yes, turned out to be a plane.

    6. Do you believe UFO’s are extraterrestrial in origin (coming from somewhere other than earth) or terrestrial in origin (such as misidentification of airplanes, government craft, weather balloons, satellites ect.)
    -Terrestrial
    -Extra Terrestrial
    Terrestrial

    7. Do you believe the government is hiding information about UFO’s
    -Yes
    -No

    The average government in the world makes the Keystone Kops look like the "state of the art" in logistics and you expect me to believe they are efficient enough to hide info like this for half a century? RIIIIIIIGHT. Summary: NO


    8. Do you believe there is intelligent life somewhere in the universe with the capabilities of traveling to earth?
    -Yes
    -No
    Believe? No. Do I think that there is a possibility that there exists a civilization outside the earth with the technology to travel between stars? A slight one.

    9. Do you believe in your lifetime that scientists will find life somewhere else in the universe?
    -yes
    -no

    Believe? NO. It would be extremely cool if it happened, however, I think it's unlikely.

    Thanks in advance for all your help

    Anytime

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    As requested, I have opened a new topic regarding the belief that UFOs are probably just classified aircraft.

    Heres the link > http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-...ml#post1436908

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    Quote Originally Posted by winsor View Post
    Hi, I'm taking a survey for English class, on peoples beliefs on UFO's if any of you could help I would really appreciate it.
    Here's my take. I agree with the caveats presented by others before this, and won't bother repeating them. I'd suggest you take the concerns expressed to heart and consider revising your questionnaire accordingly, and starting over. Consider this forum a good place for a trial run.

    1. Age
    2. Gender
    66 Male

    3. Do you believe that people who see U.F.O.’s are actually seeing something in the sky, or are they just imagining things?
    -Imagining things
    -Actually seeing something
    Yes.

    4. Do you believe that life exists in the universe somewhere other than Earth?
    - Yes
    -No
    Yes, and not uncommonly; but virtually all such life is likely to be comparable to bacteria.

    5. Have you ever seen an U.F.O.?
    -Yes
    -No
    Yes, but then I'm not an expert at identifying flying objects. Do recall that UFO does NOT mean "flying saucer" -- you knew that, right?

    6. Do you believe UFO’s are extraterrestrial in origin (coming from somewhere other than earth) or terrestrial in origin (such as misidentification of airplanes, government craft, weather balloons, satellites ect.)
    -Terrestrial
    -Extra Terrestrial
    See the other responders for the problems with the way this question is presented. To answer the question you didn't ask, no, I have no reason to think any of the "UFOs" were driven by ET.

    7. Do you believe the government is hiding information about UFO’s
    -Yes
    -No
    Probably, but only to the extent the UFO was actually a plane the government was developing in secret. Again, your question needs tweaking to make it meaningful.

    8. Do you believe there is intelligent life somewhere in the universe with the capabilities of traveling to earth?
    -Yes
    -No
    This should be a two-part question I think. I'll answer it that way:
    8A: Yes, given the size of the universe, it is close to certain there have been other examples of intelligent life in the universe.
    8B: Assuming you consider us to be an example of "intelligent life" (an hypothesis I sometimes doubt), we have in fact traveled to the earth -- from the moon, for example (cf. Apollo missions). That makes your question trivially true. However, I'll assume you meant to say "OTHER intelligent life ..." in which case I'd have to say "highly unlikely".

    9. Do you believe in your lifetime that scientists will find life somewhere else in the universe?
    -yes
    -no
    Given my age, unlikely. If so, it will almost certainly be as others have said, microscopic life in the solar system. Be careful with your wording here and elsewhere: many who use the word "life" have an implicit "intelligent" in front of it. Make it clear what you mean, so your answers will not be ambiguous.


    BTW and OT: Happy birthday, Jay.
    Last edited by Abelian Grape; 2009-Feb-19 at 02:37 AM. Reason: correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by winsor View Post
    Hi, I'm taking a survey for English class, on peoples beliefs on UFO's if any of you could help I would really appreciate it.
    ...
    Thanks in advance for all your help!
    Winsor,

    will we get the results, such as statistics, of your survey?

    Extracelestial

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    1. Age — Four dozen

    2. Gender — Male

    3. Do you believe that people who see U.F.O.’s are actually seeing something in the sky, or are they just imagining things?
    -Imagining things
    -Actually seeing something

    Yes.

    4. Do you believe that life exists in the universe somewhere other than Earth?
    - Yes
    -No

    Yes.

    5. Have you ever seen an U.F.O.?
    -Yes
    -No

    Yes, I'm sure I have...but not anything that I'd call a craft of extraterrestrial origin.

    6. Do you believe UFO’s are extraterrestrial in origin (coming from somewhere other than earth) or terrestrial in origin (such as misidentification of airplanes, government craft, weather balloons, satellites ect.)
    -Terrestrial
    -Extra Terrestrial

    Terrestrial.

    7. Do you believe the government is hiding information about UFO’s
    -Yes
    -No

    Yes...but only so far as it relates to classified aircraft and/or activities of Earth origin.

    8. Do you believe there is intelligent life somewhere in the universe with the capabilities of traveling to earth?
    -Yes
    -No

    No, most probably not.

    9. Do you believe in your lifetime that scientists will find life somewhere else in the universe?
    -yes
    -no

    Maybe.
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    There may be 100 billion Earth-like planets in the Milky Way, or one for every sun-type star in the galaxy, said Alan Boss, an astronomer with the Carnegie Institution and author of the new book "The Crowded Universe: The Search for Living Planets."

    He made the prediction based on the number of "super-Earths" -- planets several times the mass of the Earth, but smaller than gas giants like Jupiter -- discovered so far circling stars outside the solar system.

    Boss said that if any of the billions of Earth-like worlds he believes exist in the Milky Way have liquid water, they are likely to be home to some type of life.

    "Now that's not saying that they're all going to be crawling with intelligent human beings or even dinosaurs," he said.

    "But I would suspect that the great majority of them at least will have some sort of primitive life, like bacteria or some of the multicellular creatures that populated our Earth for the first 3 billion years of its existence."

    Other scientists are taking another approach: an analysis that suggests there could be hundreds, even thousands, of intelligent civilizations in the Milky Way....

    In a paper published recently in the International Journal of Astrobiology, the researchers concluded that based on what they saw, at least 361 intelligent civilizations have emerged in the Milky Way since its creation, and as many as 38,000 may have formed
    source: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/spa...ler/index.html

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    1. Age
    23 (3 days until I'm 24!)

    2. Gender
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    3. Do you believe that people who see U.F.O.’s are actually seeing something in the sky, or are they just imagining things?
    -Imagining things
    -Actually seeing something

    Both. Sometimes they're seeing something that they can't identify, or are imagining something.

    4. Do you believe that life exists in the universe somewhere other than Earth?
    - Yes
    -No

    Yes.

    5. Have you ever seen an U.F.O.?
    -Yes
    -No

    No

    6. Do you believe UFO’s are extraterrestrial in origin (coming from somewhere other than earth) or terrestrial in origin (such as misidentification of airplanes, government craft, weather balloons, satellites ect.)
    -Terrestrial
    -Extra Terrestrial

    Terrestrial

    7. Do you believe the government is hiding information about UFO’s
    -Yes
    -No

    No

    8. Do you believe there is intelligent life somewhere in the universe with the capabilities of traveling to earth?
    -Yes
    -No

    Yes, though not necessarily "easily".

    9. Do you believe in your lifetime that scientists will find life somewhere else in the universe?
    -yes
    -no

    Yes

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    3. Generally seeing something, occasionally imagining or more likely adding detail to enliven a more mundane observation.
    4. yes
    5. I've seen things I can't identify, eg moving lights in the sky at night, but nothing that I couldn't make a guess at.
    6. Terrestrial and also astronomical objects, eg Venus
    7. Nothing important related to the alleged extraterrestial nature of UFOs, but quite possibly information related to the activities of the government, eg a secret aircraft.
    8. yes
    9. I like to think so, but I'm not optimistic.

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