A real prediction!

[Wakatah]

In 2007, the stock market will be very volatile. In the latter half of the year, the U.S. economy will enter into a recession caused by the decline in housing. Around that time, the Federal Reserve will lower rates, which will cause the U.S. dollar to collapse. There will be a record number of home foreclosures, which will mostly be bought out by large institutions.In 2008, world financial markets will be in chaos. These problems will be compounded by the escalation of war between Iran and Israel. Afterwards, the U.S. stock will rally to the highest levels in U.S. history. The gap between the poor and rich will widen in the U.S. causing a boom in law enforcement and the prison industry.In 2009, riots in the U.S. will breakout bringing about the introduction of marshal law. Order will be restored but at the cost of civil liberties and rights. Between 2010-11, there will be an environmental revolution in which the U.S. converts from oil dependency to alternative energy resources.By 2012, the world will undergo dramatic climatic, atmospheric, and geological change. Many pundits will cite these changes as either the end times or the results of global warming. World government leaders and scientists will hide the explanation from the public: increased solar activity reaches its peak. The increased solar activity of the sun (aka solar storm) will coincide with a geomagnetic shift. This geomagnetic shift will irreparably alter global communications networks from everything to financial markets, cable and satellite, air and shipping transport, cell phones, etc. This solar storm will lead to the rapid decline of human civilization. As the world population surpasses 7 billion, people around the world fight for survival. An unparalleled breakout of famine and disease will be caused by the disruption in electronic networks. The world will not fully recover until 2020 after nearly half the human population is wiped out. A new society emerges based upon spiritual values. A great awakening occurs, enlightening people around the world. A world based not upon the division of classes but around the oneness of humanity. People around world cooperate with one another to avoid disaster and the extinction of the human race.

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Okay, hold your horses.

Number 1: I did not write this myself, i found it here,
http://redhat.bravehost.com/
oddly no one is listed on who wrote it and i have no idea at what time it was posted. but i recently found it.

Number 2: There IS scientific and logical evidence which holds this true, unlike some laughable predictions.

What to see, surely!

References:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080122/wall_street.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22625211/

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n..._sunspots.html

Truly i am not scared, as its not the "end of the world", but it would be devastating.

But i plan on preparing.


I mean, how could you prove this wrong!?

Its, accurate, logical, and has evidence to back it up.

Oh and the first referenced link was just put up today at yahoo.com.

[Lianachan]

I mean, how could you prove this wrong!

Well, I don't know about you, but I think that the most efficient (though not quickest) way would be to sit still and then - many years from hence - point it out.

[NEOWatcher]

I think this part:

increased solar activity reaches its peak. The increased solar activity of the sun (aka solar storm) will coincide with a geomagnetic shift. This geomagnetic shift will irreparably alter global communications networks from everything to financial markets, cable and satellite, air and shipping transport, cell phones, etc. This solar storm will lead to the rapid decline of human civilization.

Would be applicable to be discussed on this board. The remainder has mostly to do with economics and politics.

But; even this part, I have not heard any indication of Geomagnetic shift. How will this erreparably affet global communications? I don't think communications rely on the magnetic pole, because it is shifting all the time anyway, and there have been no ill effects so far.

[sarongsong]

...i have no idea at what time it was posted...

[Wakatah]

In other words, on what date it was posted or created.

But nonetheless, solar storms, are known to disrupt global communications and the like.

[Noclevername]

But nonetheless, solar storms, are known to disrupt global communications and the like.

Not to anywhere near the degree that it would "end civilization". And land lines would still work just fine.

As for the "magnetic reversal", search the Conspiracy Theory threads for the numerous debunkings of the ideas that it could "end civilization" or that it's happening anytime soon.

[Van Rijn]

In 2009, riots in the U.S. will breakout bringing about the introduction of marshal law.

"Marshal Law" was introduced in 1996:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116997/

(Sorry, couldn't resist when I saw "marshal.")

Number 2: There IS scientific and logical evidence which holds this true, unlike some laughable predictions.

You obviously have different ideas about science and logic than I do.

I mean, how could you prove this wrong!?

See my sig. Let me know how you prove me wrong. But Lianachan is right in this case. Time is the answer.

Its, accurate, logical, and has evidence to back it up.

We won't know if it is accurate until and unless it happens. And, among other things there is no evidence that there will be major changes in the Earth's magnetic field any time soon.

[Wakatah]

"Marshal Law" was introduced in 1996:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116997/

(Sorry, couldn't resist when I saw "marshal.")



You obviously have different ideas about science and logic than I do.



See my sig. Let me know how you prove me wrong. But Lianachan is right in this case. Time is the answer.



We won't know if it is accurate until and unless it happens. And, among other things there is no evidence that there will be major changes in the Earth's magnetic field any time soon.

I just simply just copied and pastied what i read.

Yes there are sum misinterpretations, maybe they should have used impose martial law.

As for magnetics i do not know, but as we the US are in war, i wouldn't be too surprised as if they did impose martial law when a bunch of riots happen.

Everything else hits the money.

Actually no, i change that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_storm

Now it hits the money.

[drainbread]

Economics...
Seems to me that a major recession occurs every 8 to 10 years and last 6 months to 2 years.

The rest seems like nonsense to me.

[Van Rijn]

Everything else hits the money.

Actually no, i change that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_storm

Now it hits the money.

Nope. Geomagnetic storms are not predictable. They start with events on the sun, they don't cause "geomagnetic shifts" and even major ones like the one in '89 have nothing like the effects suggested here.

Pretty clearly, you want this to be true and are trying to find ways to make it work. That's not the same thing as having actual evidence.

[Wakatah]

Nope. Geomagnetic storms are not predictable. They start with events on the sun, they don't cause "geomagnetic shifts" and even major ones like the one in '89 have nothing like the effects suggested here.

Pretty clearly, you want this to be true and are trying to find ways to make it work. That's not the same thing as having actual evidence.

True, but it will hit its solar maximum within that year.

Geomagnetic shift take thousands of years to complete.

I just included that link to provide information.

Good thing we have it to protect us from a solar storm.

Climate change is happening, atleast in my area when it hits the 60s in a January something is odd.

It does have misinformed info.

But atleast, it has evidence to suggest that a solar storm is a possibility.

I'm just wanted to show you a prediction, that has evidence of whats going on and a possibility in the future.

[EndeavorRX7]

Okay okay, what are you selling? Life insurance? a survival guide? cell phones that don't get affected by geomagnetic shifts?

[Wakatah]

Okay okay, what are you selling? Life insurance? a survival guide? cell phones that don't get affected by geomagnetic shifts?

Its geomagnetic storms.....

Well its a good thing to come to here, as i learn from wrong to right.

But if it does happen (again which is possible, not surely), what preparations should one take?

I read it would be considered to protect you skull, sternum, thighs, hips and shoulders.

Would watches or compasses be affected by such an event?

A survival manual would be great if the famine broke out.

[Noclevername]

How about doing... nothing? The Earth's atmosphere provides the majority of our protection against cosmic ray particles. Even without a magnetic field, you'd still only get about as much more radiation per day as watching an hour of TV.

[Van Rijn]

Are you old enough to remember 1989, when we had big geomagnetic storms? What did you do then? Personally, I vaguely remember hearing about the power outage. I suppose if I had been in the power outage myself, I might have a bit better memory, but it certainly doesn't seem to be the sort of thing that, on a personal level, warrants a great deal of preparation or concern. Speaking of power outages, I was lucky, but after a recent storm, friends a few blocks away had a longer power outage than the one in '89. Of course, this particular storm didn't affect as many people at once, but power outages aren't exactly unknown.

[Gillianren]

As for magnetics i do not know, but as we the US are in war, i wouldn't be too surprised as if they did impose martial law when a bunch of riots happen.

I would; it didn't happen in the '60s or in, what, '92 in LA. The National Guard got called out, but it's hardly the same thing.

[01101001]

A real prediction!

Real prediction? You like real predictions? I predict this list of 2012-related BAUT Forum topics will be much much longer by the year 2012. Sad, isn't it?

2003 no, 2012 si
2012
Pole shift / Planetary alignment 2012?
2012 alignment question
about the Mayan 2012 item
2012 Debunking?
Possible asteroid impact in 2012?
2012 asteroid?
We don't have to worry about 2012!
More on 2012 from India Daily
2012 Completion of conspiracy?
Here's what's REALLY going to happen in 2012...
crop circles, Planet X and 2012
Planet X, crop circles and 2012 cataclysma
According to the Mayans, what will happen on 23rd Dec. 2012?
More 2012 Nonsense
NEO 2012?
Dangerous NEO in 2012?
Christmas 2012
2012 mayan calender end of world
Regarding the supposed polar shift/new ice age in 2012
New 2012 threat?
2012 look at this thing on the sun
Russian Expert Predicts Global Cooling from 2012
Pole shift idea origins
Dec 20 2012
2012 Stuff
Horizon Project-New End of World Scare?
Date: December 21st 2012
Earth passing thru Galactic center in 2012 - didn't that already happen?
2012: What do you think well happen (if anything)
So what will we see in 2012?
Galactic Tsunami?
Plane of the ecliptic of the galaxy?
Earth's Magnetic Field & 2012
2012?
Any truth to this?
How can the sun be aligned with Galactic centre?
the whole 2012 poles flip nonsense
Planet X Official Advertisement
What year are we in
Quick question about the sun
Galactic Alignment
Books of 2012! -
2007 = 2012
Return of Planet X By Rand
Don Alejandro - Mayan Elder.
Toutatis 4179: 2012?
Galactic Alignment in 2012 ?
Solar Storms
A real prediction!

[Maksutov]

I just simply just copied and pastied what i read.

Well, that's good. We wouldn't want the current version of the FCC cracking down on exposed nipples.

Yes there are sum misinterpretations

Funny, I don't recall seeing in your posts any columns of numbers which were added together.

, maybe they should have used impose martial law.

?

As for magnetics i do not know, but as we the US are in war, i wouldn't be too surprised as if they did impose martial law when a bunch of riots happen.

? Are you familiar with the term non sequitur?

Everything else hits the money.

Actually no, i change that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_storm

Now it hits the money.

What money? Do you mean "It's on the money."? In that case, what type of time machine do you have and what's the objective evidence you've collected while in the future to substantiate your claims?

Your content of your posts seem to have the same flavor as this outstanding bit of future insight:

Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future. You are interested in the unknown, the mysterious, the unexplainable. That is why you are here.

And now, for the first time, we are bringing to you the full story of what happened on that fateful day. We are giving you all the evidence, based only on the secret testimonies of the miserable souls who survived this terrifying ordeal. The incidents, the places, my friend we cannot keep this a secret any longer. Let us punish the guilty, let us reward the innocent. My friend, can your heart stand the shocking facts about grave robbers from outer space?

My friend, you have seen this incident based on sworn testimony. Can you prove that it didn't happen? Perhaps on your way home, you will pass someone in the dark, and you will never know it, for they will be from outer space. Many scientists believe that another world is watching us this moment. We once laughed at the horseless carriage, the aeroplane, the telephone, the electric light, vitamins, radio, and even television! And now some of us laugh at outer space. God help us... in the future.

- Criswell

[Swift]

In 2007, the stock market will be very volatile. In the latter half of the year, the U.S. economy will enter into a recession caused by the decline in housing. Around that time, the Federal Reserve will lower rates, which will cause the U.S. dollar to collapse. There will be a record number of home foreclosures, which will mostly be bought out by large institutions. In 2008...

Gosh, already wrong. I might have missed it, but I don't recall the dollar collapsing in 2007.

[Wakatah]

Well, that's good. We wouldn't want the current version of the FCC cracking down on exposed nipples.Funny, I don't recall seeing in your posts any columns of numbers which were added together.?

? Are you familiar with the term non sequitur?What money? Do you mean "It's on the money."? In that case, what type of time machine do you have and what's the objective evidence you've collected while in the future to substantiate your claims?

Your content of your posts seem to have the same flavor as this outstanding bit of future insight:

Whoa, ego ahoy, "sum interpretations", wrong information, god forgive me if they don't have the same definitions or are suppose to apply to mathematics.

There is evidence claimed by scientists, that in 2012 solar activity reaches its maximum.

So are you telling that its impossible for a solar storm to happen at that time?

As for the person who wrote this prediction, they should have used instead of using the word introduction to imposed.

If riots happen through out the country, they will likely use martial law.

As for the geomagnetic shifts that were described in the prediction, as said by others it is not going to happen.

I do not know the details about it, and the other members here told me right from wrong.

Yes the fall of the american dollar and recession of house markets is true, so thats right on the money (lol).

As for the global crash (by the way it looks i wouldn't be surprised if it did happen) and the others are predictions, that which have evidence to support its possibility of happening or in the process (climate change).

Then like the geomagnetic shifts, have been proven wrong by the users above.

The others, solar storm, global market crash, and such
haven't happened, but its not like its impossible for these to happen in the future.

I stand corrected in "some" areas and in others not so sure.

And the american dollar has lost its value, the euro will soon be the preferred currency.

The loonie is now equivalent to the american dollar.

I don't need to be insulted by a arrogant intellect.

So i shall not partake, i bid farewell chaps!

LOL

[Neverfly]

I don't need to be insulted by a arrogant intellect.

So i shall not partake, i bid farewell chaps!

LOL

Maksutov is frequently like that, using thinly veiled insults and condescending sarcasm- and then acting like you're a monster if you dare to react to it and talking badly about you in other threads because he didn't like your 'attitude' after he dished out rose scented excrement.

It's best to just ignore him.

[sarongsong]

In other words, on what date it was posted or created...

An anonymous bit of musings, written who-knows-when (yesterday?), becomes "A real prediction!".

...But, nevertheless...

[Maksutov]

Whoa, ego ahoy, "sum interpretations", wrong information, god forgive me if they don't have the same definitions or are suppose to apply to mathematics.

There is evidence claimed by scientists, that in 2012 solar activity reaches its maximum.

So are you telling that its impossible for a solar storm to happen at that time?

As for the person who wrote this prediction, they should have used instead of using the word introduction to imposed.

If riots happen through out the country, they will likely use martial law.

As for the geomagnetic shifts that were described in the prediction, as said by others it is not going to happen.

I do not know the details about it, and the other members here told me right from wrong.

Yes the fall of the american dollar and recession of house markets is true, so thats right on the money (lol).

As for the global crash (by the way it looks i wouldn't be surprised if it did happen) and the others are predictions, that which have evidence to support its possibility of happening or in the process (climate change).

Then like the geomagnetic shifts, have been proven wrong by the users above.

The others, solar storm, global market crash, and such
haven't happened, but its not like its impossible for these to happen in the future.

I stand corrected in "some" areas and in others not so sure.

And the american dollar has lost its value, the euro will soon be the preferred currency.

The loonie is now equivalent to the american dollar.

I don't need to be insulted by a arrogant intellect.

So i shall not partake, i bid farewell chaps!

LOL

Sorry, my friend, but posting unsupported predictions on a science board such as the BAUT will typically lead to two results:

1. The predictions will be picked apart by the use of logic, reason, and objective evidence. The need for the last is typically due to the lack of such or outright misinformation contained in the predictions.
2. The predictions, having been debunked, will serve as a source of commentary, which usually consists of "How many times have we heard this before", "Let's look at what the doomsayers have said in the past and how they've always been wrong" and "You know what's funny about this? Well..."

At first glance I had hoped you had posted an old chestnut in order to debunk it, but when you started defending it, well, that kind of dashed my hopes.

If you find that, as a result of posting claims on a science board and "supporting" them with a series of "perhaps", "maybe", "might happen" statements rather than verifiable objective evidence, your claims are methodically dispatched, and thus you are insulted, well, please consult a textbook on the scientific method.

[Noclevername]

Maksutov is frequently like that, using thinly veiled insults and condescending sarcasm- and then acting like you're a monster if you dare to react to it and talking badly about you in other threads because he didn't like your 'attitude' after he dished out rose scented excrement.

It's best to just ignore him.

Post a blatant Ad Hom, then say "ignore him?" Pick a lane and drive in it!

[Neverfly]

Post a blatant Ad Hom, then say "ignore him?" Pick a lane and drive in it!

A blatant reply to the great many ad homs he has expressed about me in various threads for over a year. Him and Moose. And I'm tired of it. Sue me.
And I'm just tired of the belligerent arrogant attitudes that pretend to 'be nice' while degrading individuals.

I have essentially stopped posting on BAUT (with the exception of three posts in response to three individuals that warranted recognition) because I'm one of the 'evils' on BAUT that steps on more toes than I kiss.

But just because I've gone to lurking in darkness doesn't mean I won't pop up once in a while to deliver a note.

[Laguna]

As for sun storm and communictions.
This would only affect satellite comunications.
Nothing to worry about. Most communication, especially time critical communications, go over fibre optic cables. Only long distance point to point communication and connections to destinations that are not connected by cable, use satellites. Then there would be the GPS system and such.
Oh and say bye bye TV-Entertainment. I guess we could live without it for some days...

[Whirlpool]

Another newbie that has been mobbed .

[ToSeek]

This thread has gotten out-of-hand, and I've closed it. There's definitely some inappropriate behavior here, but I'm not going to stand (or sit) in judgment until after breakfast.

I would like to remind people that the way to deal with inappropriate behavior is to report it. I am not impressed when the first complaint I hear from someone about someone else is a public post. We have a mechanism - use it or keep quiet!

ToSeek
BAUT Forum moderator

[ToSeek]

Maksutov and Neverfly have been cautioned via PM for their posts here.