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    The New Pangea-very speculative article in New Scientist

    Via New Scientist online: http://environment.newscientist.com/...d=FPPFLLPFPOLL

    The most recent, Pangaea, formed 300 million years ago and was already breaking up 100 million years later as the dinosaurs evolved. Some 1.1 billion years ago, another supercontinent, called Rodinia, formed, breaking up 250 million years later...What is generally agreed is that there have been two true supercontinents containing all or nearly all the land on Earth - Pangaea and Rodinia - and there may have been many more true or partial supercontinents, including Pannotia, Columbia, Kenorland and Ur..Right now, we are halfway through a cycle. The Pacific is gradually closing, as oceanic crust sinks into subduction zones in the north Pacific, while the Mid-Atlantic Ridge is feeding out new ocean floor as the Americas move apart from Europe and Africa. Africa is moving northward, heading for the southern coast of Europe, while Australia is also on its way north towards south-east Asia....If the Atlantic continues to widen, the Americas will eventually crash into Asia. Alternatively, a subduction zone might somehow open up in the Atlantic and reel the sea floor back in, forcing Europe and America back together. This would essentially re-create Pangaea.
    This new Pangea would not be a pleasant place; it would be prone to climatic extremes, stormy, and extremely arid over much of its surface, according to this article. Habitable areas would be restricted to very narrow zones on the continent, and the authors of the article forecast mass extinctions accompanying the supercontinent's formation.

    Fortunately, this dire event is not forecast to occur until 250 MY hence.

    There is no accompanying ref to a peer-reviewed paper, unfortunately.

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    One version of this scenario comes from Christopher Scotese, who called the assembled continent "Pangea Ultima". His map is here, with an intermediate stage here. AFAIK Scotese viewed this as a bit of fun, so I doubt if there's a peer-reviewed paper from him.

    Grant Hutchison

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    What about the one after that, and the one after that?

    Are they to be called 'Pangaea Ultima II' and "Pangaea Ultima III-the Return of the Supercontinent"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    One version of this scenario comes from Christopher Scotese, who called the assembled continent "Pangea Ultima". His map is here, with an intermediate stage here. AFAIK Scotese viewed this as a bit of fun, so I doubt if there's a peer-reviewed paper from him.
    Google the theory of Supercontinent Supercycles, generally attributed to the team of Damian Nance, Thomas Worsley, and Judy Moody (see also The Supercontinent Cycle, an article by them in Scientific American, July 1988)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhEb09'1 View Post
    Google the theory of Supercontinent Supercycles ...
    Heh.
    A Google search on "supercontinent supercycles" turns up only a list of BAUT threads in which you have participated.
    "Supercontinent cycle(s)" seems to be the more useful search term.

    Grant Hutchison

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    Well, there ya go

    I left off the quotes, but thanks grant. I also found this wiki: Supercontinent cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eburacum45 View Post
    What about the one after that, and the one after that?

    Are they to be called 'Pangaea Ultima II' and "Pangaea Ultima III-the Return of the Supercontinent"?
    Pangaea Ultima IV-The Son of the Supercontinent

    As long as there's enough energy, crust thin enough and water to keep ocean floors flexible plate tectonics should continue. If the supercontinent cycle is ~250 mya there should be enough time for a few more supercontinents.

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    Its initials are P.U. Just pointing it out.
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    Will there be a "P.U. IV- To Save The Whales"?

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    "Moving, moving, moving, keep those doggies moving" Theme music from Rawhide the TV show.

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    Like ice sheets floating on a half-frozen river. Or, less aesthetically pleasing, the skin forming on a pot of cold gravy.
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    Pavgea VI: Return of the Supercontinent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paracelsus View Post
    Via New Scientist online: http://environment.newscientist.com/...d=FPPFLLPFPOLL



    This new Pangea would not be a pleasant place; it would be prone to climatic extremes, stormy, and extremely arid over much of its surface, according to this article. Habitable areas would be restricted to very narrow zones on the continent, and the authors of the article forecast mass extinctions accompanying the supercontinent's formation.

    Fortunately, this dire event is not forecast to occur until 250 MY hence.

    There is no accompanying ref to a peer-reviewed paper, unfortunately.
    I'm not surprised. Think about the strong seasonal monsoons in Asia. Landmasses colder in the winter pushing dry continental air seaward, while in the summer the warmer continental landmass air pulls in oceanic air. I'll bet Pangea-type continents generate even greater extremes.

    Even so, the exact climatic details depend heavily on
    *The Continent's physical shape
    *The Latitude of any large seas indenting Pangea, or any large peninsulas extending from Pangea (Pressure systems and winds heavily influence a region's climate)
    *The Presence or absence of any high mountain barriers in coastal areas (which, if high enough, might mitigate monsoonal tendencies in coastal areas)

    Regardless, it's likely that regions in low-pressure belts will be moister than the high pressure ones (especially eastern equatorial regions, given their largely monotonous climate and the oceanic source of prevailing air masses).

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    Quote Originally Posted by filrabat View Post
    Even so, the exact climatic details depend heavily on
    *The Continent's physical shape
    *The Latitude of any large seas indenting Pangea, or any large peninsulas extending from Pangea (Pressure systems and winds heavily influence a region's climate)
    Like the great inland sea that flooded a lot of North America, near where a lot of dinosaur remains have been found.

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    All the open deep ocean left covering most of the rest of the world will no doubt be pretty stormy, too.
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    That new supercontinent looks like Russia--just more of it...

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