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I experienced this last year when my mother passed-away. On the day that she died, she brightened-up (she had been sick with alzheimer disease for about 6 years) noticeably and her appetite had improved (she was refusing all/most solid food and on this day she ate mashed potatoes of all things). Is it that a person senses that their time is near and this is maybe a relief/comfort for them? The nurses at the nursing home told me that this is quite common in the elderly.
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Nervous system degradation shuts down their awareness of their physical infirmities, reaching a critical failure point that is something akin to numbness as the system approaches total collapse.
Just my guess.
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I am sure there will be many scientific explanations offered; however, I don't think that science currently has all the answers in this issue. A friend of mine had an uncle die recently. The night before he died his vital signs took a sharp, steep dive and he was clinically dead for a few minutes. The next morning he was calm and alert as he told my friend "it alright, its all about love". That night he died peacefully in his sleep.Originally Posted by banquo's_bumble_puppy
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I think it's a type of shock experienced as the different systems of the body start to fail. It's nice for the dying person; but can be quite cruel for the relatives as often you feel "hey, maybe they're getting better" just to have them suddenly pass.
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Sounds like an NDE. Not that I say that cynically, I personally find some of the unknowns surrounding NDEs to be a bit of a comfort.
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Doodler, based on post history, do you mean NDE as Near Death Experience, or Nude Dancing Establishment?
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Doodler, based on post history, do you mean NDE as Near Death Experience, or Nude Dancing Establishment?
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All good, but I did mean Near Death Experience. As something of a coincidence, I'd been reading about them not two days ago.
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I saw your post... it is possible. I agree the mystery around NDS's make them somewhat mystical...
Edited because I misread doodler's post... sorry doodler...
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Iīve experienced the situation of people seemingly getting better just before death. Itīs happened to my grandma. Now I get uneasy when I see betterments in the condition of acquaintances with illness.
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I have to come down very hard here... I don NOT believe that those who are near death should be either frequent Nude Dancing Establishment's nor should they be dancing at such establishments!!Doodler, based on post history, do you mean NDE as Near Death Experience, or Nude Dancing Establishment?
Sorry I had to
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hmmmmmSNIP)nor should they be dancing at such establishments!!
I dunno...
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My grandmother passed on due to cancer as well. She was doing absolutely terrible about the third week of November. Then it was like somebody flipped a switch and she was home for Thanksgiving dinner (Fourth Thursday in November for our non-U.S. citizens). She died a couple weeks after that.
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Have you ever watched "The Man Show"? They had a commercial parody about a service called, "Die Like a Man." I believe this was one of the options. Others included alligator wrestling, failed parachute, time in the ring with a heavyweight boxer, etc.I have to come down very hard here... I don NOT believe that those who are near death should be either frequent Nude Dancing Establishment's nor should they be dancing at such establishments!!
If you know you've only got a short time left, why not enjoy it?
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Unfortunately I have a mind like a steele trap (a rusted steal trap that's missing it's springs), so I don't remember the source or have a link..
There was an article not long ago, few months at most, that talked about NDE's; more specifically the out-of-body experiences many people describe. Had something to do with the mechinism of the brain that disconnects though from movement; the mechinism that keeps us from basically acting out our dreams while we sleep.
The theory was that during a NDE, this mechinism can malfunction, giving the person the illusion of being out of body because they can still hear and sense, but not feel or move.
The article I read was talking about this, but it was a different article that went more indepth and talked about the possible connection with NDE's. I now remember where I found the story, but unfortunately they don't archive their links that far back.
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No offense taken. I was only putting the suggestion on the table. Some of what I read seemed to indicate that in elderly people who had NDEs, the fear of dying was gone when they recovered, and a significant number passed very peacefully within 30 days of it.
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WRT my last post, I managed to find the article i was referring to:
Scientists Induce Out-of-Body Sensation
The research reveals that the sense of having a body, of being in a bodily self, is actually constructed from multiple sensory streams, said Matthew Botvinick, an assistant professor of neuroscience at Princeton University, an expert on body and mind who was not involved in the experiments.
Usually these sensory streams, which include vision, touch, balance and the sense of where ones body is positioned in space, work together seamlessly, Prof. Botvinick said. But when the information coming from the sensory sources does not match up, when they are thrown out of synchrony, the sense of being embodied as a whole comes apart.
The brain, which abhors ambiguity, then forces a decision that can, as the new experiments show, involve the sense of being in a different body.
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I'm concerned.
I've been feeling good lately.
Now I realize that I'm going to die
Thanks.
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No... as long as you aren't feeling good that's not a problem... when you suddenly reach a peaceful state... now then you gota worry...I'm concerned.
I've been feeling good lately.
Now I realize that I'm going to die
Thanks.
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<picks a fight with Lurker>No... as long as you aren't feeling good that's not a problem... when you suddenly reach a peaceful state... now then you gota worry...
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"Life (and I'm sure I'm not the first one to say this) is like a disease. Sexually transmitted and ultimately fatal."Now I realize that I'm going to die
- Death, Death Talks about Life
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Oh sure... blame the messenger!!
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Avoiding the "peaceful state" and you are an easy target.Oh sure... blame the messenger!!
An easier taget perhaps, but...
I couldn't pick R.A.F., havent seen him in this thread.
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You better get that Nude Dancing done FAST!!!!I'm concerned.
I've been feeling good lately.
Now I realize that I'm going to die
Thanks.
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Okay, once again I find myself asking, "Who are you and what have you done with the real Doodler? Be warned! I've recently learned how to carve a blood eagle into somebody!"
Somebody hand me a sharp hatchett and a small hammer!
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I suspect it's sample bias, personally; I don't know of any of my relatives who've died appearing better before the end.
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Mashed potatoes are one of my favorite foods.
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ToeJam and KaiYeves,
You both have made responses
that have me sitting here staring at the screen with a blank look on my face
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ToeJam and KaiYeves,
You both have made responses
that have me sitting here staring at the screen with a blank look on my face
As opposed to when you stare at the screen with an animated look?
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Definetly not so animated that I'm dancing...As opposed to when you stare at the screen with an animated look?
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I had an NDE at an NDE once. It was quite uplifting.Doodler, based on post history, do you mean NDE as Near Death Experience, or Nude Dancing Establishment?
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And very expensive.
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