International Space Agency (ISA)

[InternationalSpaceAgency]

The International Space Agency (ISA) Organization, had its start way back in 1986. Since 1986 the ISA Organization has grown very very slowly under stiff resistance by some very very powerful (and Very Very Malicious) folks, with a very very narrow agenda for the Human Space Effort! :-(

In 1990 the International Space Agency was incorporated as a non-profit corporation in New York State. Since 1990, the ISA Organization has been seeking to gain International Treaty Status, so that the ISA Organization can better achieve its goals and mission in a true international context and treaty framework.

The International Space Agency has also been involved in great battle against the United States Government, and NASA, which have tried to stop the ISA Organization from attaining its Registered Trademark, and rightful use of the International Space Agency (ISA) name and public identity. This legal war was won in 2006, when the International Space Agency was granted its Federal Trademark in June of 2006.

You can find the Trademark documents, under the Certificate of Incorporation section of the ISA Secure Website, at: <url removed>

You can see more information about the International Space Agency endeavor, projects, and efforts on our "New" Secure ISA Public Website, that just came on line May 1st of 2007.

The "New" Secure ISA Public Website is:
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In a nutshell, the International Space Agency is to act as an enabler of International (Multi-National) Space Activities and Endeavors outside the "National Domain" and Capability. Like International Lunar Bases and Mars Missions, and such. It is also to act like a bridge between Government, Commercial, Scientific, Academic, and Private Enterprises, Organizations, and Persons in an International (Global) Context.

The International Space Station (ISS), is a good step towards what the International Space Agency (ISA) has been working on in a broader global context since 1986.

However, in reality, the International Space Station (ISS) is really not a "true" International Space Station! In reality, ISS is an "American Space Station", that the USA has allowed other nations to participate in, as we see fit, and as to advance the USA National space agenda and goals. It is not new or unknown news, that Russia and ESA member states are thinking about pulling out of ISS and starting their own Space Station with China. This, as many of the ISS members, have been "frustrated" at the USAs overzealous micromanagement and control of the ISS for its own narrow agendas and purposes.

The International Space Agency hopes to improve these longtime bad relations and feelings, by creating a "TRUE" international management, operations, and quality control team that could provide the central administrative core to Human Space Projects of the scale and scope of the International Space Station (ISS), and others beyond ISS, like a International Lunar Base and International Missions to Mars, and one day and International Base on Mars. Such projects are truly outside the National Domain or ability.

This is what the International Space Agency (ISA) Organization has been working towards since 1986!

This historic and noble journey has been painfully slow, full of political pot holes and landmines, and "sadly" manipulated and undermined by the 500 pound guerillas of the day, bent on National control of space for narrow and hostile intentions and agendas.

The International Space Agency (ISA) presently is very small in numbers and operates on very limited resources and support. This against Governments like the United States and National Space Agencies like NASA, which have many thousands of dedicated people, and billions in deep pocket tax payer funds, at their disposal. A David and Goliath battle for sure. The International Space Agency (ISA) may be the underdog, but we are a dedicated group of professionals, working towards an important and noble cause.

Any simple Internet search will turn up years and years, and layers and layers, of massive false propaganda and malicious information about the International Space Agency (ISA), its Efforts, and its People. Many of these activities have been state sanctioned attacks on the ISA Organization and its People, by paid agents of the United States Government, and CIA!

This is why the National Governments need to be curtailed and controlled, if Humanity is to ever get into Space in any meaningful way of scope or scale. The International Space Agency (ISA) Organization offers this hope for a peaceful future for humanity in Space.

Important information can be found about the International Space Agency (ISA) on its NEW youtube site. Here are a few good links to information about the ISA Endeavor.

International Space Agency - The ISA Global Team!
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International Space Agency - Introduction
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International Space Agency - The Vision Unfolds!
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International Space Agency Statement - Part 1
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International Space Agency Statement - Part 2
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<search youtube for the above videos, if you care>

Thanks for your support and comments!

Ad-Astra! To The Stars!
In Peace For All Mankind!

Humbly In Your Service,

The ISA Global Team
International Space Agency, I.S.A.
International Space Administration

[NEOWatcher]

Do you have anything specific to talk about, or are you just here to violate rule #6?

[Nicolas]

Someone abuse the search function please, this was discussed in 2004 (and more recently with a very similar "advertise yourself" post IIRC, but not sure about that).

Let me just add that I for one do not recognize the ISA as anything more than all clubs me and my friends used to form, only difference being we not bothering to make it an official organisation.

[01101001]

Since 1986 the ISA Organization has grown very very slowly under stiff resistance by some very very powerful (and Very Very Malicious) folks, with a very very narrow agenda for the Human Space Effort! :-(

Credibility. Window. Out.

[Nicolas]

My guess is that large part of the resistance came from all those who are named on the site in a way that can be easily interpreted as if they're a concious and voluntary member of this ISA, while they're not.

[Grashtel]

Credibility. Window. Out.

And if that isn't enough a swift look around their website gets rid of anything that is left, a badly designed site with articles that seem to use a different (but all badly chosen) colour for each paragraph and no actual technical detail, oh and for some reason they are using HTTPS to somehow make their site "secure" (why? If the "very very powerful (and Very Very Malicious) folks" can change the internet DNSs then faking a security cert is easy).

Also I am sure that this lot has shown up fairly recently as well (or at least stuff with the exact same style).

[Swift]

Hey, but they have spiffy hats!
(Did the CCCP/USSR have a garage sale?)

[Rue]

^^ Spooky, a bit like Sea Organization.

[Dave J]

Oh my...
Just waded through all the links...I don't know what these people do for a living, but I hope they are better at it than playing Space Agency bosses. It's just...wierd.
Check out the "statements"...it's a grand delusion.
(their professional presentations have me dumbstruck)
Edit...with the colors and the clutter on the website, why am I thinking gaetanomarano might have a hand in this "virtual space agency"? Just speculating...

[Damburger]

Hey, but they have spiffy hats!
(Did the CCCP/USSR have a garage sale?)

Why would anyone want to join NASA when you can look like a member of a Soviet Village People tribute band?

[Swift]

Why would anyone want to join NASA when you can look like a member of a Soviet Village People tribute band?

Young man, there's no need to feel down.
I said, young man, launch yourself off the ground.
I said, young man, 'cause NASA's a clown
There's no need to be unhappy.

Young man, outer space you should go.
I said, young man, just give us your dough.
I said, young man, help us fight all 'r foes.
Many ways to waste your time.

It's fun to join the I - S - A
It's fun to join the I - S - A.

[Dave J]

keyboard cleaning time again...and thanks a bunch for putting some really, really bizzare images in my mind!

[Grashtel]

Edit...with the colors and the clutter on the website, why am I thinking gaetanomarano might have a hand in this "virtual space agency"? Just speculating...

I seem to recall that he was the one who brought up the ISA stuff before, though I haven't been able to find any evidence other than my not terribly reliable memory and site searches for "international space agency gaetanomarano" or "ISA gaetanomarano" don't find anything.

[Doodler]

Someone abuse the search function please, this was discussed in 2004 (and more recently with a very similar "advertise yourself" post IIRC, but not sure about that).

Let me just add that I for one do not recognize the ISA as anything more than all clubs me and my friends used to form, only difference being we not bothering to make it an official organisation.

http://www.bautforum.com/archive/index.php/t-22765.html

Found this

[Nicolas]

I don't know where it came up, but I'm 100% sure I've seen the (old version of the) site before and discussed it. I'm not sure it was here though.

About gaetanomarano: I don't think there is any evidence to think he's involved in this ISA stuff, so I'd suggest not to make these "accusations" when founded only on "the site uses colours too".

[Dave J]

you're right, my apologies to Gaetano.

[Manchurian Taikonaut]

I've seen the way this kind of thread goes in the past. This guy used to post at newmars and spacedotcom.

http://www.newmars.com/wiki/index.ph...l_Space_Agency

[Dave J]

For the OP,
Having watched the video links, I am not certain what the goal of the organization is. It certainly has an anti US government tilt to it, with many serious accusations. There are many grand plans, which are currently duplicated presently by industry, governmental spaceflight organizations and inter-governmental/inter-organizational agreements and treaties.
Space concerns in the spacefaring countries tend to cooperate to a large extent despite the limitations pressed on them by their governments and the associated politics. I see the astronauts greeting their counterparts from differing nations as real friends. They have worked together, trained together, and now flown together...in space.
The technology of spaceflight is sensitive, with many serious potential military applications. In an ideal world, this would not be a concern for a human-wide push in the universe, but that is not realistic. It is obvious that much of the technology is shared, with the world benefitting.
I think the statements made in the links are slanted, and overly simplistic. They do not recognize the difficulties of international joint space operations. What does this organization offer that is not being done now, albeit with slow, painstaking steps?

[jkmccrann]

Haha, interesting - reminds me of something actually, anyone want to join my Solar Council?

www.solarcouncil.com

(Actually, I need someone to design me a webpage before I can sell the Soviet - Era costumes)

[mugaliens]

I got the, "This website wants to run the Windows Media Installer Core. If you trust this website..."

No.

And by the way, when you have about twenty members who're chairpersons and board of directions, with a staff of one, something's definately upside down with this picture...

and

I'll be they can't even get into a CON.

Love the uniforms, but can't figure out from the lack of upper curves on the left figure whether that's woman's formal or men's summer casual?

Thanks for the lyrics, swift, and I'm with you Dave J, only for me I'm still wiping spots off my monitor. Hey - is that a fleck of morning cereal? Yep.

[Zachary]

Wow, I never thought I'd find a website so badly designed that it would rival the monstrosity of timecube (www.timecube.com). Well now I have. Congratulations.

And those...uniforms! If ISA ever had a convention it would look like the Arnold Rimmer Lookalike Society.

[Irishman]

I love the miniskirts.

But I have to ask, if this is a non-government commercial advocacy and interrelations group, why do they have uniforms?

[Damburger]

I love the miniskirts.

But I have to ask, if this is a non-government commercial advocacy and interrelations group, why do they have uniforms?

You've seen that hat, is any more reason needed?

[InternationalSpaceAgency]

The fact that many who posted here were using, qouting, and linking to CIA propaganda as a reference, just goes to show how people are manipulated all the time by this evil garbage and propoganda!

Also, the people who were using the International Space Agency name and public identity in the other posts (AS IF IT WS US), were in fact committing a felony crime. Breaking trademark laws are a very serious issue, and also many copyrights have been broken as well!

Also, the CIA plants here are trying to instill fear in people about the REAL International Space Agency website media (Sound & Video). On any website that has video and sound, if you set your antivirus settings too high, it will block most viseo and sound media. This is normal, an is do to your settings, and has nothing to do with the content or safety of the video and sound media.

Also, one of the CIA agents here was also trying to decieve and manipulate people, by saying a Secure SSL can be faked! It cannot be faked, and that is a lie! The ISA websites have the same secure SSL that banks have.

The reason the International Space Agency is so outspoken about the CIA and United States Government, is because they have IN FACT been attacking, harassing, slandering, and undermining the Internatuional Space Agency (ISA) Organization and Endeavor for over 16 years now!

Go the the United States Trademark & Copyright websites! Look up "International Space Agency", and see what you find! The truth, and not the lies of the CIA Secrete Police Agents making false propaganda here!

The International Space Agency Statement Part 1 and Part 2 (All though a little dry in presentation) is true, and presents the FACTS of the last 16 + years of the International Space Agency (ISA) Organization and Endeavor.

Like we have stated here, there are many thousands of false, slanderious, and malisious posts, threads, and articles all over the internet about the International Space Agency (ISA). It is all lies and garbage!

Go to New Your State Department of Commerce site, and look up "United Space Federation", which the International Space Agency was incorporated as in 1990, because of the legal war with the United States Government about our rightful name International Space Agency, which was finally won in 2006.

We would like to talk about the International Space Agency, what our Vision and Goals are, and what efforts are underway at present.

Not this CIA Secrete Police Garbage that is being crammed down you folks throat here, in an attempt to brain wash you and mislead you.

Don't be used by these people, as their evil pawns!

Use your brains, as I am sure many here have. Ask real questions, and debate in good faith!

Do not be sucked in by the CIA Secrete Police disinformation and propaganda!

We have been dealing with this malicious gargage for over 16+ years now, and have little tolerance or patience for it!

This site has good info about the REAL ISA.
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These two sites are a good source of information as well.

International Space Plane (ISP) Program
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International Space Academy
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If anyone here would like to pose some serious questions, we would be more than willing to spend the time to answer and explain our goals and mission.

If you want to rant with CIA Secrete Police disinformation and spout malicious propaganda, we will not waste our time.

Ad-Astra! To The Stars!
In Peace For All Mankind!

Humbly In Your Service,

The ISA Global Team
International Space Agency, I.S.A.
International Space Administration
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Washington, D.C. (202) 917-0209
Omaha, Nebraska (402) 299-2799

[HenrikOlsen]

After reading the last post, I can see that this thread belongs firmly in Conspiracy Theories instead of Space Exploration and have therefore moved it.

[pvicente]

If anyone here would like to pose some serious questions, we would be more than willing to spend the time to answer and explain our goals and mission.

You want some questions? Here they are:

1 - I clicked the link to the space plane site and the thing is unreadable with that dark gray background and green/blue/red text. I looks like you're running your "agency" on a shoestring budget but shouldn't you catch basic problems like this before going "live" with your site?

2 - Why all the youtube stuff, and the videos? Some nice clear text would much faster to read, to load, quotable, searchable...

3 - Why the uniforms? Why does a civilian club, or agency, or lobby, or whatever need those?

4 - What can you bring to the table, besides sites and youtube videos? Money? Hardware? Experience? Connections? Why should anybody in a position to influence a nation's policy spend even a tiny amount of their time and effort with you?

5 - CIA plants? Who are they, and how can I tell them apart from people that made up their own minds and don't agree with you?

[Dave J]

I see this ISA with some web pages, uniforms, a planned Academy, and claims to aim to be "a central focal point" and a "central training and standards organization" for the world's space projects.
Then I see the US, Russians, Europeans, Japanese, and other nations working together, training crews, flying hardware, launching missions. Joint operations.

Indeed, what does ISA bring to the table that the nations, working cooperatively, are not already doing?

And by disagreeing with this ISA business, I am dismissed as a "CIA Secrete Police disinformation" agent? Care to provide some proof?
"Humbly in your service"...yeah, right.

[Essan]

I click on the website and first thing I see is a girl in a short skirt ........ What's the site about again?

[R.A.F.]

If anyone here would like to pose some serious questions, we would be more than willing to spend the time to answer and explain our goals and mission.

OK...here's a serious (and simple) question for you to answer...

How do you have a "space agency" without any spaceships??

[peter eldergill]

Also, the CIA plants here

Ah, the real picture starts to show