the whole 2012 poles flip nonsense

[CrusaderPCM]

Is Nibiru Coming? If You Want To Know What I Am Talking About Check It Out On My Site [some URL] I am looking for any information I can get, if anyone as seen it by eye or telescope in the southern pole area please e-mail me with what you know at I would be very grateful for any genuine information! Thanx Crusaderpcm.

some email address

The powers that be are building underground bunkers all over the world for the selected few they pick to survive Nibiru coming. Nibiru is a planet that is part of or galaxy but as Earth takes 365 days in its orbit Nibiru takes 3666.6 years. It as pass by earth many times before, once it struck earth and caused devastating damage to the planet. It also cause the extinction of the dinosaurs when it passed very close to earth and caused an ice age. It is due to pass through again in 2012. Its arrival as already started to alter Earths weather. It can already be seen in the south pole where the U.S have set up a large telescope to track its approach. But you won't see it by sight until the end of 2010 when of course it will be denied. But by the beginning of 2012 it will be hard to hide the fact of its approach. Basically if you have watched a film called Deep Impact then that is what will happen. So if you are not one of the chosen one you are stuffed and expected to go quietly into the night. Personally I going to use the well know motto hope for the best plan for the worst. Me and my loved ones are going to survive this because I'm preparing for the worst are you?

[Halcyon Dayz]

Aha.



Searching for 'Niburu' produces a list of 91 threads where it is mentioned.
You might want to read some of those.

Welcome to BAUT.

(Make sure you read this.)

[antoniseb]

Check It Out On My Site

I have suspended CrusaderPCM for two weeks. Normally spammers get the boot for life, but there is a chance that this person has a sincere interest in astronomy and/or spaceflight (he wasn't spamming for cheap cell phones), so we'll give him another chance in two weeks.

[ZappBrannigan]

Does CrusaderPB&J like Starburst candy? This sounds very familiar, but with the dates off by a decade...

[Laguna]

Deep Impact?

[sts60]

Hello, CrusaderPCM.

Is Nibiru Coming?

No.

If You Want To Know What I Am Talking About Check It Out On My Site [some URL] I am looking for any information I can get, if anyone as seen it by eye or telescope in the southern pole area please e-mail me with what you know at I would be very grateful for any genuine information! Thanx Crusaderpcm.

some email address

As HalcyonDayz already pointed out, we've been through this ad nauseum on this forum. Do you have any points to raise that haven't been chewed over before?

The powers that be are building underground bunkers all over the world for the selected few they pick to survive Nibiru coming.

No, they're not. This is an evidence-free claim.

Nibiru is a planet that is part of or galaxy

Then you mean it's part of our solar system. Saying it's "part of our galaxy" implies it's not gravitationally bound to the Sun, but that is contradicted by the rest of your sentence.

but as Earth takes 365 days in its orbit Nibiru takes 3666.6 years.

Then it would have been near Earth about 1660 BC. At a bare minimum it would have been a spectacular naked-eye object. Yet there is no mention of such an object in art and writings of that time. So your claim fails for lack of historical evidence.

It as pass by earth many times before, once it struck earth and caused devastating damage to the planet. It also cause the extinction of the dinosaurs when it passed very close to earth and caused an ice age.

No evidence for either claim.

It is due to pass through again in 2012.

Indeed? Then you know its orbital elements. What are they, exactly? No handwaving, please. Either you know its orbit (as already implied by your 3666.6 year period claim above), or you do not know its orbital elements and therefore have no basis for your claim.

Its arrival as already started to alter Earths weather.

Nonsense. Such an object would have to be well out past Mars, or it would be a fairly bright naked-eye object already, easily visible to anyone in the Southern Hemisphere and much of the Northern Hemisphere as well. But no such object has been reported. No planetary object at such a distance can have any perceptible influence on Earth's weather, any more than Mars or the asteroids have an effect on Earth's weather.

It can already be seen in the south pole where the U.S have set up a large telescope to track its approach.

No, the U.S. has not set up such a telescope to observe its approach. Another claim simply made up.

But you won't see it by sight until the end of 2010 when of course it will be denied.

This claim implies that the object must be significantly further out than Mars' orbit. Which makes your "affecting Earth's weather" claim even more impossible.

But by the beginning of 2012 it will be hard to hide the fact of its approach.

If you know its orbital elements already - which you must know if you can predict its passage - than it is already impossible to hide its approach. Thousands of amateur astronomers across the world would already be able to image it. Unless it is somewhat further out than Pluto - in which case, based on a few quick-and-dirty calculations, it's likely that it wouldn't even be gravitationally bound to the Sun anyway.

Basically if you have watched a film called Deep Impact then that is what will happen. So if you are not one of the chosen one you are stuffed and expected to go quietly into the night. Personally I going to use the well know motto hope for the best plan for the worst. Me and my loved ones are going to survive this because I'm preparing for the worst are you?

I'm more interested in real dangers, not silly made-up ones. But thanks for your concern.

[ZappBrannigan]

Basically if you have watched a film called Deep Impact then that is what will happen.

I'm personally much more worried about conspiracy theories that mirror the movie Xanadu, where Greek muses once again walk the Earth, creating roller discos.

[Noclevername]

This line in particular caught my eye:

once it struck earth and caused devastating damage to the planet.

If it struck, it would have stuck. And we wouldn't be here today. Planets, even dwarf planets, have too much mass and gravity to carom off each other like billiard balls. They would have collapsed into each other, releasing a lot of energy in the process, making one big mushy ball of molten goo.

[Dave J]

I saw Crusader's post and thought it was a spoof, with the "some url" and "some website thing". It's really hard to separate satire from the genuine thing...for me at least.

[JayUtah]

That's why satirizing conspiracy theories doesn't work: the satire is indistinguishable from the theory.

[Swift]

If you know its orbital elements already - which you must know if you can predict its passage - than it is already impossible to hide its approach. Thousands of amateur astronomers across the world would already be able to image it. Unless it is somewhat further out than Pluto - in which case, based on a few quick-and-dirty calculations, it's likely that it wouldn't even be gravitationally bound to the Sun anyway.

Look at how many people jumped on the eruption of comet Holmes for proof of this.

@ Dave J - I suspect the reason for "some url" and "some website thing" is that antoniseb removed them as part of our rules enforcement and defense against spammers.

[KaiYeves]

Protecting oneself from Nibiru is like protecting oneself from Invaders from Mars.
Pointless.

[Noclevername]

Protecting oneself from Nibiru is like protecting oneself from Invaders from Mars.
Pointless.

Because they're ALREADY HERE! Ahahahaha...




Sorry. Couldn't resist.

[pzkpfw]

...if anyone as seen it by eye... please e-mail me

versus

But you won't see it by sight until the end of 2010

and

The powers that be are building underground bunkers all over the world for the selected few they pick to survive...

versus

Me and my loved ones are going to survive this because I'm preparing for the worst are you?

Not even self-consistent.

[KaiYeves]

Not even self-consistent.

But go easy on him, he has loved ones.

[tbm]

Regarding the Mayan calendar/2012 thing.

If the Mayans were so friggin' smart, why didn't they foresee their OWN demise?

tbm

[KaiYeves]

If the Mayans were so friggin' smart, why didn't they foresee their OWN demise?

;-D

[JayUtah]

If the Mayans were so friggin' smart, why didn't they foresee their OWN demise?

You mean monsters from the id?

[Stuart van Onselen]

If the Mayans were so friggin' smart, why didn't they foresee their OWN demise?

You mean monsters from the id?

I don't get this one. What's John Carmack got to do with the Mayans?

[JayUtah]

It's a reference to the film Forbidden Planet in which a supposedly advanced race extinguished themselves by providing a method by which thought could be realized in substance, whereafter their elementary subconcious was rendered real and physically destroyed them. The line is the dying words of the visiting ship's doctor who finally understood the mystery of their disappearance.

It's a common theme in science fiction to fell (or occasionally to save) an advanced culture by means of the overlooked or forgotten point of the crude natural world. Conversely, basic nature can be used to challenge extraordinary claims: such as wondering why psychics need appointments or still have car accidents.

[aurora]

Regarding the Mayan calendar/2012 thing.

If the Mayans were so friggin' smart, why didn't they foresee their OWN demise?

tbm

Maybe you can ask them. Their decendents still live in the Yucatan.

In fact, some of their cities were still inhabited when the Spanish arrived (like at Tulum), although the Aztecs had pretty well taken control by then.

[Maksutov]

All's Krell that ends Krell.

-Leslie Nielsen

Fortunately Anne Francis survived.


Meanwhile I could really give a flip about 2012. It's been a dead "issue" so long I wouldn't touch it with an 8,000 mile pole.

[Swift]

Actually, I figured out why the Earth will be destroyed on December 21, 2012. On that date, gasoline in the US will hit $5 per gallon, resulting in not just the collapse of the US economy, but the actual flipping of the poles. And those Mayans figured the whole thing out.

[jami cat]

2012 is when the Mayan calander stone ends... What if it ends on that date simply because the Mayans could only make the stone a certian size?
As I recall wasn't the stone supposed to be mounted over an enterance for one of their temples?
I think we need to have the rim of the calander examnined very VERY carfully!
Somewhere on it I'm sure it has the symbols for "Continued On Disk 2" )

Randy

Just like them 15 Commandments...opps...um...10, 10 Commandments...:P

[tbm]

And what do the Poles think of all this talk of them flipping? I'm sure Lech Walesa has something to say about it. Or is this a sport similar to cow tipping? Are the Poles asleep when it happens?

tom

[justsomeguy99]

well i have been reading about 2012 and i think it can, but i'm not sold on it i think if this is true the work of patrick geryl, gino ratinckx, adrian gilbert,maurice cotterell, are the only ones that make sense, i hope to god the poles don't flip i did see a nova show on pole fliping it can flip. i'm not yet sold on the idea but if its true the people i posted are the ones that make any kind of sense,

[Mellow]

Obligatory thread necromancy alert! almost 2 years.... soo close!

[Swift]

well i have been reading about 2012 and i think it can, but i'm not sold on it i think if this is true the work of patrick geryl, gino ratinckx, adrian gilbert,maurice cotterell, are the only ones that make sense, i hope to god the poles don't flip i did see a nova show on pole fliping it can flip. i'm not yet sold on the idea but if its true the people i posted are the ones that make any kind of sense,

justsomeguy99,

First, welcome to BAUT.

Second, I don't know who any of those people are, I don't know what they've said, so I can't say if what they say makes sense. But there is absolutely zero evidence that anything special will happen in 2012, particularly with "pole flips".

I suspect the Nova program you saw was on the movement of the magnetic poles of the Earth. This is a very well studied process and has gone on for billions of years. If you are interested, a little searching around BAUT will find plenty of past discussions about it. Again, there is zero evidence it will happen in 2012.

The kind of "pole flip" that the 2012-types talk about is not the magnetic poles, but the rotational pole of the Earth. The idea of that flipping is nonsense.

If you have specific questions or thoughts, please post them.

[coreybv]

i hope to god the poles don't flip i did see a nova show on pole fliping it can flip.

Yes, the poles can shift. In fact, we have solid evidence that they have shifted several times in the past.

HOWEVER, the process takes millions of years to complete. It won't cause any disasters, it will be a slow and gradual thing. The transition from summer to winter causes us MANY more problems than a pole shift would, and we handle that just fine every single year.

[MAPNUT]

Darn, I hate it when I read all the way through a 2-page topic before I notice it's 2 years old. I thought 0101etc.'s list seemed a little short.

And a pole shift means reversal of magnetism. Not that the planet turns upside down or starts revolving the other way. Some people aren't clear on that.