Well, it's been said that ever since I was two years old, I've been a sixty-year-old man. It's true.Originally Posted by Gillianren
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Well, it's been said that ever since I was two years old, I've been a sixty-year-old man. It's true.
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Hee. I had a friend in college who was a huge Dylan fan. I'm with you about him. While we were in a class together, a list came out of the "100 Greatest Singers of the 20th Century." (This would've been '99.) Dylan was on it, and I got my friend to admit that he didn't belong there. Songwriter? Sure. Musical influence? You bet. Singer? Oh, dear Gods, no.
Tori Amos does a great cover of that one, too. In my opinion, she's got a far better voice than Streisand (who does have a pretty good voice).I realize they can't all be Barbara Steisand (whom I detest, but she's got a beautiful voice) - but there are plenty of outstanding voices out there (like the one I'm listening to now - India-Aire's rendition of a BIllie Holliday song (Strange Fruit - absolutely stunning).
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your friend should be writing for Rolling Stone.
I'm a big Dylan fan and won't see him anymore. His voice before I could handle, but it's gotten much worse, and I can't even understand the songs to which I know the words.
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So did Zoot
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you won't like what i've just been downloading then
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Saw him 3 years ago and was happy to discover his articulation was greatly improved to the point of hearing every word clearly. Maybe he was just in a good mood
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Agreed. Almost anyone who records a Dylan song sings it better; in some cases (most notably Jimi Hendrix's reworking of "All Along the Watchtower") the interpretation itself becomes the starting-point for further performances. (In the case of "All Along the Watchtower", remakes by XTC (very early) and Dave Mason.)
The only song no one can take away from Dylan is "Rainy Day Women #12 and 35". That performance is awesome! No one will ever come close to that!
One of my goals in life is to be well-off enough to afford Barbara Streisand tickets and tasteful enough not to buy them!
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Dylan wasn't about singing ability. It was more about the lyrics, attitude, and the bluesy musical accompaniment. After all, there weren't many heads back in 1964.
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Oh, I quite agree. My point was that he was horribly misplaced on a list of "great singers."
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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"
"You can't erase icing."
"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"
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The first time I heard thr Beatles was on a jukebox in a bar in Germany. The title was something like "Gibt Mir Deine Hand". A few weeks later I heard the song in english and thought "They have pretty good english for German kids." I didn't really like them until I heard Ella Fitzgerald and Frank Sinatra doing their stuff and realized they were great song writers. I don't, however, consider them a rock and roll band; you gotta have a honkin' tenor and "a country born piano man, playin' in between the cracks."
*Extra credit for any student who identifies the source of the last quote.
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Sounds like (without googling) Jerry Lee Lewis...?Dylan's a self-defined poet who wouldn't have minded being born a lumberjack.
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And he's OK.
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Now, there's a song!
Serendipitously, here comes The Sun, on the current state of affairs:June 4, 2007
...Geoff Emerick, an engineer on the Beatles’ Sgt Pepper’s album, said: “A lot of what is released today is basically a scrunched up mess. Whole layers of sound are missing. It’s because record companies don’t trust listeners to decide themselves if they want to turn the volume up.”
Singing legend Bob Dylan, 66, said: “Modern records are atrocious. There’s no definition of anything — just static.”...
---Sun article: "Official, rock music is too loud"
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I have to disagree, though I've not listned to Tori Amos much. What I have heard, I'm afraid I don't like... to me, she seem to push her voice too much (one of the reasons I simply can't *stand* Bruce Springsteen - as though by straining the voice they imply they really feel the emotion in the song. Gah. (I admit, with regard to Tori, it's been years - she may have come to her senses)
Streisand - though I can't stand her (or her music) - is one of those people with perfect pitch. She very rarely hits a bad note. very rarely.
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I was listening to Norah Jones last night. She's got a great voice. I can't take much though, a lot of her stuff puts me to sleep.
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Promoting her 3rd album, Ravi Shankar's youngest daughter is appearing here, on the nineteenth---can't wait!
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Ah, that served me as a reminder.Promoting her 3rd album, Ravi Shankar's youngest daughter is appearing here, on the nineteenth---can't wait!
I went searching and found an Angel LP of ragas by Ravi Shankar. Really like Raga Simhendra Madhyamam.
From 1956, back when I got interested in classical Indian music.
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