Be ready for next level of science

[Celestial Mechanic]

[Snip!] But; aside from the personal attack, I am offended that you are spelling America without being capitalized. [Snip!]

At least he's not spelling it with a k -- or three k's!

[Fortis]

I divide atoms into two different family, one is gas family other is solid
family. The difference is based upon there magnetic property. Yes two
solid and gas atom has opposite magnetic property like couples .
For eg imagine: gas atom is female atom and solid atom is male atom.

If I had an atom in front of me, how do I determine if it is a "solid" or a "gas" atom?

Let's take an example, is an atom of mercury a gas atom, and why?

[Gillianren]

And what about liquids?

[Celestial Mechanic]

And what about liquids?

And let's not forget plasma!

[papageno]

And what about liquids?

And let's not forget plasma!

Let's not confuse truedream with unnecessary complications...
Should I start talking about the boat-load of phases that are observed in magnetic systems?

[truedream]

He talks about gravity not being about mass, but rather nucleac size. Interestingly enough, 99.99% of all atomic mass is in the nucleus. Compared to protons and neutrons, the mass of electrons are "negligible".

#EDIT: Sorry to backtrack, just got here

Thanks for understanding
Some of main points about my theory

[truedream]

ok what is gravity and how does it effect us thats the first question then we ask what is antigravity then we can think about science in other words you can babble on about gravity etc. but whats your point

Yes, even I think it is better to start from gravity
What is gravity??? It is a resultant force of a natural process.
What is that natural process??? Process of collecting force.
I think story telling way is better to explain about this natural process.
This natural process is like own citizens paying maximum tax to RUN the government.

Planet is like a small government running with help of there own citizens (atoms), this government is located at static center. The citizens inside the government must pay maximum tax to RUN the government.
To run the government, yes this small government (planet) is located inside central government (sun) area of sun, so planet (small government) must pay maximum of its tax to its central or superior government.
Like wise this natural process continues till to its end (from nucleus to planet, planet to sun, sun to galaxy,and galaxy to space).

Is like taking food to live, but giving support for existing.
so gravity is a resultant force not a fundamental force.

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. (Thanks to Michael)"

albert Einstein

[truedream]

Let's not confuse truedream with unnecessary complications...
Should I start talking about the boat-load of phases that are observed in magnetic systems?

Hi friend you are not confusing me, but creating some fun

Originally Posted by truedream
I think it is better to start from quantum mechanical spin
What is the source for this mechanical spin in atom?
What type of force is it? What is this end less force in atom?
Please give your idea about source for this spin in atom.

The BAUT board has a Questions & Answers forum for such questions.

Ok why I should ask this question, only you should go for that because you only don’t know answer for this basic basic question of atom.

truedream, why do you keep copying and pasting from your own posts?

The "broken-record" method is not an valid alternative to explaining your claims.

I have only 25% of total English knowledge of yours



I have just given simple science word, keeping in my mind about school children.
But you are not coming to my main idea or don’t understand it because of my english;
Ok I will change the name given to Suns core atom and earth’s solid core atom.
I am mainly speaking about core atoms
Sun core is made up of A atom and like wise
Earth solid core is made of B atom.

I say A is not equals to B
You cannot 100% add A with B or B with A. if you try then you can see the effect of repulsion or anti gravity.
That is can you add or mix hydrogen atom with our solid core of earth?

But A will add with A, likewise B will add with B with attraction or gravity

[truedream]

truely an interesting site, this toequest!!

thanks to make others remember this toequest

[Fortis]

thanks to make others remember this toequest

I understand what it stands for, but I'm sure there are a bunch of people with, let's say, specialist tastes that are likely to be very disappointed when they go to the toequest website.

[papageno]

Ok why I should ask this question, only you should go for that because you only don’t know answer for this basic basic question of atom.

So they were rhetorical questions.
How about explaining clearly your ideas, instead?

truedream, why do you keep copying and pasting from your own posts?

The "broken-record" method is not an valid alternative to explaining your claims.

I have only 25% of total English knowledge of yours

The more reason to try and express your ideas in different ways, instead of repeating the same sentences over and over.

I have just given simple science word, keeping in my mind about school children.
But you are not coming to my main idea or don’t understand it because of my english;
Ok I will change the name given to Suns core atom and earth’s solid core atom.
I am mainly speaking about core atoms
Sun core is made up of A atom and like wise
Earth solid core is made of B atom.

I say A is not equals to B
You cannot 100% add A with B or B with A. if you try then you can see the effect of repulsion or anti gravity.
That is can you add or mix hydrogen atom with our solid core of earth?

But A will add with A, likewise B will add with B with attraction or gravity

I will quote Swift in response:

I could say imagine that atoms are all "Cat" atoms and "Dog" atoms, based on how long their tails are. But until I even show atoms have tails, and how that explains things better, it is meaningless.

So, can you explain exactly what these two types of atoms are (without using analogies) and provide the evidence of their existence?

Also, can you address my point:

All present basic laws of atom are found with respect to earth.

So, all those probes we sent throughout the Solar System and all that spectroscopy astronomers and astrophysicists do, do not count, right?

[Fortis]

I have just given simple science word, keeping in my mind about school children.
But you are not coming to my main idea or don’t understand it because of my english;
Ok I will change the name given to Suns core atom and earth’s solid core atom.
I am mainly speaking about core atoms
Sun core is made up of A atom and like wise
Earth solid core is made of B atom.

I say A is not equals to B
You cannot 100% add A with B or B with A. if you try then you can see the effect of repulsion or anti gravity.
That is can you add or mix hydrogen atom with our solid core of earth?

But A will add with A, likewise B will add with B with attraction or gravity

O.K. you have now changed your nomenclature to avoid confusion with what scientists understand the terms "gas" and "solid" to mean. My original question still stands, however.

If I had an atom in front of me, how do I determine if it is a type A or a type B atom?

Let's take an example, is an atom of mercury a type A atom, and why?

[north]

I understand what it stands for, but I'm sure there are a bunch of people with, let's say, specialist tastes that are likely to be very disappointed when they go to the toequest website.

why so?

[Swift]

<snip>
Ok I will change the name given to Suns core atom and earth’s solid core atom.
I am mainly speaking about core atoms
Sun core is made up of A atom and like wise
Earth solid core is made of B atom.

I say A is not equals to B
You cannot 100% add A with B or B with A. if you try then you can see the effect of repulsion or anti gravity.
That is can you add or mix hydrogen atom with our solid core of earth?

But A will add with A, likewise B will add with B with attraction or gravity

Do you have any proof of this at all? All the experimental evidence I am aware of, such as spectroscopy of the sun, shows that the atoms of the sun are no different than those on Earth. Hydrogen is hydrogen, no matter where it is.

[truedream]

Do you have any proof of this at all? All the experimental evidence I am aware of, such as spectroscopy of the sun, shows that the atoms of the sun are no different than those on Earth. Hydrogen is hydrogen, no matter where it is.

I thought my English is bad but truly your level of understanding is very low when compare to my theory
You people are not ready to see pure reality.
Simple eg : why planet mercury did not fall to suns gravity??
Because suns core is made of A atoms like wise mercury core is made of B atoms.so A is not equeal to B

http://jolomo.net/solarsystem/1936.08.html
A world so close to the immense mass of the Sun that the laws of Nature we know do not apply

Space -- a curious sort of physical space that is not empty, but rather to be thought of as an invisible, impalpable, but indubitably present sort of thing -- is distorted, its very nature changed under the colossal strain of the Sun's gravity. Space is a real thing, but not a substance; it is as real and tangible as a magnetic field, and quite as transparently invisible. The space I shall refer to generally to this sort of space -- not emptiness alone, but the stuff a magnetic field is woven of.

On Mercury, basic laws we know would need modification. The power of two magnets would not be the same, the attraction between two electric charges changed. They would not obey the laws of normal space, for the Sun has changed those laws.

Can you answer for this question?
What is orbital axis and geomagnetic axis?
Why earth gravity is locked at only at orbital axis??
Why orbital axis is place vertically to the sun??
Why all the planets are horizontally placed to the sun???
Why moon come close to the earth at the time of equinox?
What is the reason for elliptical orbit in of our planets?
There are lots more question about pure reality or nature
But you cannot even answer a single question with true answer

You people are ready to compare what you know
So you will truly see new periodic table in future with some changes with help of true science.
Ok thanks for your cooperation friends

[NEOWatcher]

I thought my English is bad but truly your level of understanding is very low when compare to my theory

Because you are not using scientific concepts to explain it.

http://jolomo.net/solarsystem/1936.08.html
A world so close to the immense mass of the Sun that the laws of Nature we know do not apply

They are explaining the difference between Newtonian laws, and Quantum laws/theories. Did you read the other 2 sentences in that paragraph?

The rest of the article is a "flowery" description on how Newtonian physics don't apply, and why Einstien's physics change them.

Can you answer for this question?
...

Why are you asking us?
You said the current science is wrong. You need to know current science to make the claim.

So you will truly see new periodic table in future with some changes with help of true science.

With what properties. You have been asked many times.

My original question still stands, however.

If I had an atom in front of me, how do I determine if it is a type A or a type B atom?

Let's take an example, is an atom of mercury a type A atom, and why?

The rules here require you to answer this.

[captain swoop]

Well, the mainstream does have answers to these questions.

it's not up to us to answer your questions or explain mainstream theory. You are supposed to explain your theory to us and answer our questions. That's the way the ATM forum works, it's all in the rules.

[Celestial Mechanic]

[Snip!] On Mercury, basic laws we know would need modification. The power of two magnets would not be the same, the attraction between two electric charges changed. They would not obey the laws of normal space, for the Sun has changed those laws. [Snip!]

Please explain why, if the "basic laws" (such as electromagnetism) "need modification" at Mercury, we were able to fly Mariner 10 past Mercury three times in 1974 and 1975 with all equipment working flawlessly.

[Celestial Mechanic]

I thought my English is bad but truly your level of understanding is very low when compare to my theory
You people are not ready to see pure reality. [Snip!]

This is an expression of a bad attitude. The sooner it can be changed the more profitable your time here will be.

Reading your work I am struck by a low level of knowledge on your part of even the simplest physics. My suggestion to you is "get thee to a library" and thoroughly absorb chemistry and physics before you begin theorizing.

[Fortis]

why so?

If you where questing for toes (as opposed to theories of everything) then the toequest website would leave you disappointed...?

[pzkpfw]

Simple eg : why planet mercury did not fall to suns gravity??
Because suns core is made of A atoms like wise mercury core is made of B atoms.so A is not equeal to B

You seem to be saying that Mercury does not crash into the Sun because the two repulse each other.

If that were so, why would Mercury not continue in a straight line and just leave the Solar system? What keeps it orbiting the Sun?

(Just for the record, my wording of what I believe to be the mainstream view is that the Sun is attracting Mercury (and vice-versa) but it keeps missing because it also has velocity perpendicular to the direction from it to the Sun. Mercury wants to keep going "sidways" but the Sun keeps pulling it closer - and that maintains the orbit. What is wrong with the standard view, that makes your view better?)

Earth orbits the Sun, the (our) Moon orbits the Earth. Both of these are explained by Gravity. How does your "A" and "B" atom idea explain that?

Cheers,

[Serenitude]

Truedream - you are required to answer all direct and pertinent questions posed to you here. Members are under no obligation to do your homework for you. Also, lay off of the ad-hominems. This is an official warning.

[truedream]

You seem to be saying that Mercury does not crash into the Sun because the two repulse each other.

If that were so, why would Mercury not continue in a straight line and just leave the Solar system? What keeps it orbiting the Sun?

your view better?
How does your "A" and "B" atom idea explain that?

Cheers,

better way to say is they work like couples(like female and male), mercury is locked by
magnetic flux of sun. the magnetic flux of sun created the orbit for mercury.

What is orbital axis?? Now I think you can understand what orbital axis is,
Poles of planets magnetic field which is locked by magnetic flux of sun is orbital axis.

thanks for asking valid question

[Fortis]

What is orbital axis?? Now I think you can understand what orbital axis is,
Poles of planets magnetic field which is locked by magnetic flux of sun is orbital axis.

Why, then, are the magnetic poles of all of the planets not aligned. Are you also suggesting that the regular reversals of the magnetic poles of the Earth also result in a physical flipping of the entire Earth as well?

[cigarbreathe]

so what does thsi all mean?

[pzkpfw]

better way to say is they work like couples(like female and male), mercury is locked by
magnetic flux of sun. the magnetic flux of sun created the orbit for mercury.

So you are saying that magnetic flux attracts Mercury to the Sun, but at the same time the "A"/"B" atom thing stops it going all the way?

[truedream]

Why, then, are the magnetic poles of all of the planets not aligned. Are you also suggesting that the regular reversals of the magnetic poles of the Earth also result in a physical flipping of the entire Earth as well?

99% it is not possible because orbital axis is proportional to the solid core,
Orbital axis is directly proportional to nucleus magnetic force of the entire planet.

But geomagnetic axis is proportional to the liquid core, geomagnetic axis are directly proportional to electron magnetic force of the liquid core.

So regular reversals of the geomagnetic poles of the Earth, 99% will not effect as result in a physical flipping of the entire Earth.

[truedream]

So you are saying that magnetic flux attracts Mercury to the Sun, but at the same time the "A"/"B" atom thing stops it going all the way?

yes

[NEOWatcher]

I'm still waiting for the original questions as I repeated here.

In summary, the various forms of the question are:
How do you determine the properties of an atom?
How do you tell one atom from the other?
How can we measure the properties of an atom?
How would you build a periodic table?

[Swift]

Originally Posted by pzkpfw
So you are saying that magnetic flux attracts Mercury to the Sun, but at the same time the "A"/"B" atom thing stops it going all the way?

yes

Truedream,
Other than you just saying so, do have any actual proof of all of this? As far as I know there is no mystery to Mercury's orbit, it is precisely explained by the current theory of gravity, and there is no evidence of your A and B atoms. I could say the the orbit of Mercury is controled by invisible flying horses, who pull it around the sun, but I have to show evidence of this and I have to show why my explanation is better than the current one. And you can't say the proof is that Mercury orbits the sun, therefore my horses are pulling it!