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Thread: '30 days' ATM thread - discussion

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    '30 days' ATM thread - discussion

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    This thread was created by splitting posts from the ATM theads that will reach '30 days' in the next 10 days thread that are OT for that thread.

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    Nereid

    will any threads that are locked be opened again. in time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by north View Post
    Nereid

    will any threads that are locked be opened again. in time?
    Fraser has a thread which covers this - The Future of ATM - in the About BAUT section. Or, perhaps I should say, decisions on which, if any, theads will be opened (and if so, when), will likely be discussed there first.

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    Please clear up a little confusion. I notice
    many old threads remain unlocked ready to be
    "bumped". What is the policy here. Also if a
    member wishes to return to their old theory or
    idea with new thinking or research or even
    proof, will a new thread be welcome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteshimmon View Post
    Please clear up a little confusion. I notice
    many old threads remain unlocked ready to be
    "bumped". What is the policy here. Also if a
    member wishes to return to their old theory or
    idea with new thinking or research or even
    proof, will a new thread be welcome?
    They should all be locked ... but I got tired of doing that, after about the third page.

    If anyone bumps them, a mod will lock them (and maybe something heavier will happen too ...).

    So far, only two cases of that (AFAIK), and both were within the first day (or two) of the new policy coming into effect ... (and both were locked within a short time of them being bumped).

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    Oh dear...

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    Nereid and other moderators

    this my suggestion;

    have it that all ATM threads MUST at some point be Summerized. either by the author or by the respondence to the thread. on both 1 and 2(below)

    as well have two ATM sections

    1) is very heavy on the mathematics with conceptualization. but members can still view the goings on. not just for professionals but for any person who can give a sound mathematical basis for their theory.

    2) light on mathematics. is more conceptual based. a place to feel free to discuss their theories without the burden of neccessarily being mathematically based.

    and on 2nd the moderators would feel NO obligation to respond to any thread , which is understood by the members , unless the moderators feel it is warranted. either by the soundness of the theory or by bad behavior.

    ATM on this site is FAR, FAR , too important to loose. lets try to find a GOOD compromise.
    Last edited by north; 2007-Mar-13 at 12:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by north View Post
    Will any threads that are locked be opened again...in time?
    Sure: just go back in time.

    With 30-day limit on ATMs, however, prospects for time-travel looking bleak

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    Well Nereid, would you be saying you can allow
    one bump and then you mods can conveniently
    lock it? Hopefully without this heavy thing
    as well

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    Mmmm...not answering a direct question...
    interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteshimmon View Post
    Well Nereid, would you be saying you can allow
    one bump and then you mods can conveniently
    lock it? Hopefully without this heavy thing
    as well
    As I said earlier, all ATM threads older than 30 days should be locked*. It may be that we will be using a tool to do just that, shortly.

    For the few cases where bumping has occurred, I presume the bumper was ignorant of the new rules (and, for those bumped in the first couple of days, some time was needed to bed the rule change down anyway).

    In this case, you are explicitly requesting an exception. I cannot grant you that - I merely implement the rules ... and the rule in this case is very clear: "no exceptions".

    *Though note that the 30 days is from when they became ATM threads, and doesn't count 'hold' time (see the grav thread, for example)

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    Well I am still unsure about the reception if
    I return to my hobby horse with a new piece of
    work on it or even absolute proof. It seems a
    judgement call is required from a moderator!
    I suppose we can but try...

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteshimmon View Post
    Well I am still unsure about the reception if
    I return to my hobby horse with a new piece of
    work on it or even absolute proof. It seems a
    judgement call is required from a moderator!
    I suppose we can but try...
    If it's a new piece of work (as in "We've been having a discussion about what kinds of new evidence would open up a closed ATM for discussion. One idea would be a new relevant paper on Arxiv, or something published in a journal. However, I'm concerned that people will just spin unrelated stories together." source), then I guess that would be entirely OK ... it rather depends on whether it addresses, in a major way, at least one of big open questions (or is, indeed, "absolute proof"), etc, doesn't it?

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    Sticky Situation

    Shouldn't this thread be a "Sticky" at the top of the page?

    It would be easier to monitor, by all, if it were.

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    I see that Nereid is the only moderator posted here.
    On a point of interest, has Nereid been put in charge of the thirty day rule?
    Just wondering.
    Cheers,
    lyndon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squashed View Post
    Shouldn't this thread be a "Sticky" at the top of the page?

    It would be easier to monitor, by all, if it were.
    Good idea - done.
    Last edited by Nereid; 2007-Mar-27 at 08:36 AM. Reason: Added link to other thread

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