6 x 9 Foot moon negatives: where/what do these come from?

[KingNor]

On a forum I frequent, someone posted about some really big negatives they bought on Ebay. Some pics of the moon. The discussion on that board is about what they are and where they came from and possibly what camera took them. Here is a link to the topic:

http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/inde...pic=21829&st=0


and here is an image of the actual negatives after he received them:

http://www.limbostreet.com/moon/moon01.jpg

To me they don't really look all that much like negatives. I took the image into photoshop and inverted it, and the whole thing just looked backwards to me. The shadow patterns look more natural to me in the unaltered imaged.

Anyone have any idea what is going on with these images?


***edit**** as pointed out this was already posted , i just wasn't able to find it, feel free to let this thread die quietly.

[JohnD]

Gosh, KN, when I read the title, I though these would be as big as a flag!
6 foot by 9MM I think!

Must have been taken with a scanning panoramic camera - see Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panoramic_photography

If you can get the images into digital form, you can print them out on a conventional printer, using special panoramic paper.
See: http://www.panoguide.com/howto/display/printing.jsp
Or just on ordinary paper, plus literal cut'n'paste.
An alternative is to mount each section separately on the same back board.
The word is 'dissected', and it can be a most effective display.

To find out where to get the film printed, try asking the International Association of Panoramic Photographers: http://www.panphoto.com/ where I'm sure the expertise will reside.

John

[StupendousMan]

On a forum I frequent, someone posted about some really big negatives they bought on Ebay. Some pics of the moon.

Anyone have any idea what is going on with these images?

Read:

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/database/...1972-096A&ex=6

[hhEb09'1]

Gosh, KN, when I read the title, I though these would be as big as a flag!
6 foot by 9MM I think!

??

The thread seems to make it clear that the dimensions are 6 feet by 9 inches, each section

[hhEb09'1]

BTW, is your friend Limbo?

[Limbo]

Yeah, KingNor tip me off to post here... I have an ongoing thread about this subject here:
http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=54790

[JohnD]

KN,
Sorry!
On the original eBay item, (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN:IT&ih=015) the bottom right hand pic clearly shows the drink cans holding up the strip.
6ft x 9 INCHES it is! Wow!
But in fact 229 x 1829 mm - see: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/database/...?ds=PSPG-00025

You might be able to identify the exact pics you have from these: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/database/...096A&ex=6&ds=*
Congrats to Stupendous for finding the source!

John

[KingNor]

yeah i realize i opend this thread after failing to find limbos, all comments reguarding these pics should go in his thread, just let this one die.

[BigDon]

As an aside, shouldn't things like that be declared national treasures? Especially if it indeed original.

[Jeff Root]

Don,

This film was never in Space. Apparently it was made from the
original film with considerable manipulation using photographic
techniques. Presumeably the original is at JSC and other copies
of this manipulated film exist.

There are reasons for copies to be made on film rather than paper,
and negative rather than positive. I've seen glass plates from a
big collection owned by the University of Minnesota which are
duplicates of the original plates from a sky survey made with the
48 inch Schmidt Telescope at Palomar Observatory in the 1950's.
Those are duplicate negatives.

Years ago I needed a photo of the Earth, and got a large format
film positive from NASA of an Apollo 16 photo.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

[Limbo]

Those are a set of rectified panoramics from the Apollo 17 that had been corrected for camera distortions and spacecraft motion and reproduced onto 229- x 1829-mm (9- x 80-in.) film. So, while those haven't actually been to the moon, they are original Nasa material used to correct and extract useful information from the original negatives that were overexposed in the highlight areas because of a malfuncion.

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