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A Georgia state legislator, opposed to teaching evolution, wrote the following memo:
http://blogs.chron.com/sciguy/archiv...umPageTwo.html
The memo is about some Kabbala stuff being used -- well, read it. But note at the bottom he includes a link to "fixedearth.com". I've joked about Geocentrism being forced to be taught, but now it may not be so funny anymore.
-Richard
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Oh, that's just scary. Yet so not surprising.
What's next? The Flat Earth Society gets involved?
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Boy that was a descent to the dark side.
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now I have this in my head.
http://www.tsrocks.com/r/reba_mcenti...n_georgia.html
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Appropriate.Originally Posted by davidlpf
Who voted for that (insert favored Ad Hom Here)?
Turn the lights out on Him....
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It appears that for some Georgians, the lights never were on.
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Not surprised this happened in GA.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068473/plotsummary
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To be expected, you know their out there. No expert on the law, but I don't see this as viable beyond making some noise. They would have to make connections that just aren't there.
If it does get thru, and somebody is deluded enough (or just wants to make said noise for noises sake) it will eventually get rebuked so strongly it will make the Judges findings in the Dover case look like kisses from their grandma.
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Yeesh. Darwin the Kabbalist? At least I hadn't heard it before; that's rare in these arguments.
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That's not the "red string" thing that Madonna's into, is it?
I agree, Gillian, his argument has the virtue of never having been tried at least.
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Old news, folks.
There was a story - quickly followed by an editorial - in the Houston Chronicle on this last week. Seems a Texas Leg, Warren Chisum, forwarded the memo to his colleagues. (There's a blog on this at the Chronicle's site.
In the Texas Rep's "defense", he hadn't read the entire memo or checked the Internet links.
In the Georgia Rep's "defense", he let someone else write the memo for him and he sent it out w/o reading it fully or checking the links.
In Darwin's defense, he was unfamiliar with anyone involved in this.
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I did like the bit about "the evolution monopoly in the schools". Dang evolution monopoly, its un-American. After that, we are getting rid of that dang algebra monopoly and their 2+2=4 indoctrination.
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Evolution Monopoly, huh? I call "Dibs" on the moth token, and I'd like to put hotels on Mutation Street and Natural Selection Avenue to complete that color.
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Chance Card: Mass extinction. Go to Fossil Record. Go Directly to Fossil Record. Do not pass Evolve. Do not collect 200 strings of DNA.
And I'll take Hotels on Supervolcano, Climate Change, and Asteroid Strike.
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This made me laugh.Chance Card: Mass extinction. Go to Fossil Record. Go Directly to Fossil Record. Do not pass Evolve. Do not collect 200 strings of DNA.
And I'll take Hotels on Supervolcano, Climate Change, and Asteroid Strike.
Maybe we, of the BAUT, can make up an "Evolution Monopoly"?
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Sorry, no hotels allowed on utilities. But, if you own all four, you get paid extra when someone lands on one.And I'll take Hotels on Supervolcano, Climate Change, and Asteroid Strike.
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Ah I see, they're just mad because the "Result of inbreeding" "failed mutations" and "species without teeth" are all named "Georgia Ave".
(just a joke, I actually like Georgia...good fishing there).
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If there is any place that should appreciate the power of genetics, and it's role heridity and mutation; it should be in that area. I remember sitting in on a piece of field study by one of my Geography professors. He had done some sort of qualitative study in a region of the Blue Mountains. There were some really interesting tidbits on how remote and exclusive some of those ridge and valley areas are, but most amusing was this one picture of about 8 or 10 women. We assumed it was a picute of the female side of a large family. Turns out they were just a random gathering of women in one of the little isolated hamlets. We were told that some were related, but none closer than 1st cousins. They were all as similar as the usual pictures you see of identical twins.
Not a lot of mixing going on there.
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Is this for real? It looks like a joke.
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It's for real.Is this for real? It looks like a joke.
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/sha...olution_m.html
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Truth really is stranger than fiction!
The bad grammar spoiled the joke.
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My hero.By Meberman
February 16, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
I think we need to change the name from “Creationist” to “Evolution Denier” to properly classify them in the same group with Holocaust deniers and any other who choose to deny the very strong evidence of a given theory or event in favor of their fantasies.
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Now they're blaming the Jews for evolution?
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AND heliocentrism!
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I am amazed they have not blamed gay marriage on Darwin.
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*snaps fingers* That's IT! I've finally figured it out!
I've figured out why folks who oppose gay marriage often cite the "beastialty" slippery slope argument. It actually IS Darwin's fault. Sort of.
See, they all heard from some landlubber that Darwin rode the Beagle around the world and all over the Sandwich Islands. No wonder they're so bothered by the whole evolution thing.
Man, someone needs to tell them the Beagle was a ship and that the proper term for that was "sailed on the Beagle"! Should solve that whole mess.
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I read those kinds of articles and statements, but no longer go past the part (and they all have it) where they state their position is based on the need to include the scientific evidence challenging evolution.
At that point I stop because it is the same old tired arguement about what constitutes scientific evidence. All of their evidence is nothing more than an emotional desire for how they wish things were rather than any objective investigation into how things are.
If they can not even see or acknowledge that distinction, it's really difficult to take the conversation any further. A person or group of people seeing all opinions as equally valid regardless of supporting empirical evidence, or lack thereof, is the perfect recipe for impasse.
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With all due respect, I disagree.
Ellen Goodman, in a recent column, tried to draw a comparison between holocaust deniers and those who question global warming.
In neither case is the analogy particularly apt (it is, in point of fact, an ad hominem), and making it only serves to diminish the true evil of the holocaust.
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Yeah, I can see your point. Didn't think about it that way.
Very very very true.In neither case is the analogy particularly apt (it is, in point of fact, an ad hominem), and making it only serves to diminish the true evil of the holocaust.
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