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I wish Patrick Stewart would keep quiet about how 'bad' Star Trek was for his career. It was afterall his meal ticket for 7 years as a series, plus the movies, etc. Why is it that these actors 'suddenly' decide that something was bad for them and their careers? You can bet that he'll be milking that golden cow again when it suits him.
http://www.trektoday.com/news/160207_02.shtml
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Remember how bitter Nimoy, Shatner, Koenig, et al were about their Star Trek careers? Certainly kept food on their tables.
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I'd like to see a real quote rather than some fake news site dedicated to science fiction.
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He'll probably proclaim that appearing on "The Arsenio Hall Show" hurt his career somehow. The only person hurt by that show was Arsenio.
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I have mixed feelings about the Trek Franchise (mostly due mediocre episodes of Voyager and Enterprise )
However I do not believe Stewart would ever bash Trek franchise, firstly TNG was a very good show that lived up to the cult status of the original plus whenever I saw him on tv I've always heard him talk fondly about the series and said how he loved playing next to stars like Nimoy, LeVar Burton, Brent Spiner, Colm Meaney, Shatner...and working with good directors and writers such as people like Berman, Roddenberry, Carson...
There are many actors that had to sacrifice their stage work or theatre roles so they could bring home the bread doing tv or hollywood movies, people like Ralph Fiennes, Liam Neeson, Morgan Freeman, Boris Karloff.... Patrick is a professional actor and I doubt very much he'd get into the petty squabbles like this, I think somebody has either mis-quoted him or taken what he said totally out of context.
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I had to read the link to get the "whole" story...Originally Posted by banquo's_bumble_puppy
He's talking about STTNG being bad for his stage career.
Appearently, he prefers stage acting to screen acting...
What's wrong with voicing an opinion of one's own career preferrence??
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People aren't allowed to have their own opinions if they're popular, silly! The fans decide their opinions.
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maybe it's just banquo's_bumble_puppy's opinion that really matters. just teasing.
it seems as if R.A.F has the right idea.
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It's hard for me to imagine Patrick Stewart actually acting on a stage. Can you imagine him in a musical?!
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I suppose I can understand about Nimoy. I saw him on stage as Sherlock Holmes in the play of the same name. At one point, in conversation with Watson, he had to deliver the line, "Love is an emotion." That brought the house down and the play had to pause for a minute or so. Also, he delivered it as if he was expecting that kind of reaction.
Fred
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Lots of stage work isn't in musicals; it's in plays, and that's all that I know of PS doing. (For that matter, the only clip of him on stage I've ever seen was actually from a "one-man play", in which the actor can play multiple characters and have conversations with himself by flipping to face different directions and speaking in entirely different tones and such from one line to the next.)
Now, if you want a strange image in your mind, here's one that's really happened: think of Hugh Jackman (Wolverine, Van Helsing) singing in a musical!
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Hey, Brando did it. And Sean Connery, in Darby O'Gill and the Little People.
However, Patrick Stewart got his start from the Royal Shakespeare Company. He does a one-man Christmas Carol. (My high school California history teacher, who was also the drama critic for the local paper, got to interview him for it--he performed it at CalTech!) He is a great dramatic actor. While I think he's lucky--he isn't just Captain Picard anymore, especially now he's been Professor X as well--as Star Trek actors go, I can also see his point. If you're a good actor, and he is, there's no real joy in being the same character over and over for decades. Heck, you got into acting in the first place so you could be all kinds of different people.
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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"
"You can't erase icing."
"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"
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From the article
If that is an actual quote, it sounds pretty ungrateful. I don't really see what Patrick Stewart is complaining about. Ok, so he didn't appear on stage for those years. But he easily stepped back into the theatre when STNG was done, and with the fame he got from it, he can do pretty much anything he wants (like his one-man Christmas Carol). On top of that, he has not been typecasted as so many of the former ST actors have been (I'm sure in part because of his own efforts not to be typecast)."The calamity that then happened to me was that I was offered Star Trek: The Next Generation."
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I saw him on TV years ago playing Prospero in The Tempest. Not bad.
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I am utterly unimpressed by a series of random, out-of-context quotes. For all I know, Patrick Stewart may have been joking when he said that ST was "a calamity".
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Hmmm, there is life beyond Broadway. Stewart is a member of the Royal Shakespeare company and is quite excellent. To judge his career based solely on his work in STTNG and the X-Men movies would be rather unfair.
By the way, he CAN sing.
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In an interview I saw with him while the show was either still on the air, or just after it's run, he said something to the effect that he moved to LA for the first season of Next Gen but didn't bother to unpack until partway through the third because he had a feeling he'd be moving on soon.
In the rest of the interview it became clear that what he meant was he never expected that kind of success from it. He didn't think it would last as long as the original.
When he says "the calamity of being cast..." I take it to be a joke.
In that same interview, he mentions that a fan sent him a telescope. (from memory) "...A quite nice one as I understand it. Of course, I haven't the foggiest idea how to use it, but it was a splendid gesture."
I'm Not Evil.
An evil person would do the things that pop into my head.
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But I don't! I judge his appearance in Oblivion and Steam Boy too!
Actually, I'm not judging him on that either.
It just feels weird to imagine him singing, whether or not he can. I've just gotten so used to Jean-Luc Picard and his role in X-Men, which really isn't that different. In almost all of his roles, he's an intellectual of some sort, is a knowledgable type, and has more or less the same personality. It's just hard for me to wrap my mind around him in different roles, especially as a singer.By the way, he CAN sing.
It's just not what I'm used to, I'm not saying that he can't.
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One thing I've always wondered. Do the salaries of the actors in Star Trek correspond to the ranks of the characters they play? You know, so Patrick Stewart gets the highest salary because he's the captain, and the bloke playing number one gets the next highest. And the actor playing Wesley gets the lowest salary, except he got an increase when he got promoted to Acting Ensign or whatever. It must have been frustrating for those actors playing characters who never got promoted.
clop
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It's done according to screen time or number of episodes in which they appear. Regulars get paid the most, then recurring guests, then one-time guests (unless the guest is a big star already from outside the show and can get more based on name/face recognition). So the actor playing Wesley Crusher got paid more than the actors playing some Leiutenants and Admirals and such who didn't show up as much as Wesley Crusher did.
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You know, Lonewulf, I can sing. And do.
And Clop, that's a lovely Tudor rose for your avatar, though it isn't coloured right!
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Gillian
"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"
"You can't erase icing."
"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"
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But that's not surprising, 'cause I haven't seen you on the big screen constantly playing a single role and personality type that doesn't really sing that often.
Other than that, I demand you record your singing and display it for us all to rip ap... er, I mean, enjoy!
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Bet Stewart can sing better than Shatner does.
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Has anyone heard Stewart sing? He strikes me as a good baritone slightly leaning toward bass.
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And still does. Or at least extra cash.
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Definitely taken out of context...Stewart appreciates where he's been, and is always giving sly remarks towards things, and remains light hearted, regardless of what someone else may think.
...though I don't know him personally... :P
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Stewart was a darn good Captain Ahab too.
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Oh, I don't know. For one, we heard Picard sing at least once--in the episode (I cannot remember the name) with the "space quake," where he was trapped in the turbolift with those little kids. They sang "Frere Jacques."But that's not surprising, 'cause I haven't seen you on the big screen constantly playing a single role and personality type that doesn't really sing that often.
No microphone on my computer, but I'll see what I can do.Other than that, I demand you record your singing and display it for us all to rip ap... er, I mean, enjoy!
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Gillian
"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"
"You can't erase icing."
"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"
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Scenes like that are fairly uncommon, though, and I'm not sure I actually saw it.
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At the beginning of Insurrection they had him sing with with Data.
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