Last edited by Delvo; 2007-Feb-06 at 11:36 PM.
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I am intensly studing the ways and workings of your linguistics( I am at all time in the learning mode) ,also your personal character would be of great interrest to me. You seem to live in quite close embrace with reality ( a thing I would instinctively shun away from) and have accordingly developed your own ideosyncratic way of coping!
Your addressing me as "Dude", I take for a compliment, as it remindes me of "the big Lebowski"...
As to your second point, I can't see my referral to an openly owned fact as anything like a personal attack. Where I wished to share you choose to see evil......That must surely have to do with your very own cynical personality vice versa the persona of YOUR "sock puppet".
I think its pretty clear that this IS an isolated incident. NASA, Gender or flight training dont really apply at all i think.
So many people make the news (Or DONT make the news) doing these same stunts. Because of her status as an Astronaut, however, her actions are High Profile. Not only because of that status but also because of a pretty good track record for Astronaut behavior up until this point.
I don't buy into the "she did this because she's a woman" nonsense,there's too many men that've killed women 'cause of the "if I can't have her,no one will" craziness.
Reading what vague snippets the news offers tells me that this case is like so many others i have heard of- male or female- from ALL walks of life.. and is being Maginified by the media because of the perps status.
Contrast the number of violent crimes committed by males vs women. And let's talk about testosterone and how it fuels violence and aggression. Can I talk about how male "reproductive" hormones control their owners?
You're treading on dangerous ground.
I find that whenever women describe men as insensitive, they reduce men to simplistic sexual objects, run by their testicles. Which is of course what you are basically accusing men of. I suppose its easier to do that than to actually understand the opposite sex.
When it involves knives and severing body parts, it counts as pyscho in my book.
Now, common scenario: Woman A thinks woman B is making eyes on her man. Fireworks generally fly from A to
Man has what he thinks is casual affair with woman A. Woman A takes it seriously, but since man is married, wife is in the way. A sees wife as obstacle to her love, and gets it in her for her.
This kind of stuff happens a lot. A small percentage lead to psycho behavior.
I've been on the receiving end of the sex reversed example of the first a time or two myself. I've made small talk with a woman or two, and had her jealous husband or boyfriend think I was making some sort of move. Situation gets dicey, especially when that jealous boyfriend has some alcohol in him.
Yep, I was singing that Lynard Skynard song, "(I said excuse me..)Give me three steps, give me three steps, mister, give me three steps toward the door. Give me three steps, give me three steps mister, and you'll never see me no more....."
And then what's really bad is when you find out the woman herself was actually just using you to make him jealous in the first place.
Messin' where you shouldn't be messin' has plagued the greatest amongst us since time immeriorial. I've having to bite my typing fingers here to stop the urge to make double entendres out of naval/nautical and aeronautical terminology here, but I've been having a ball otherwise.
The naval angle made me recall an interesting historical fact. The great Lord Admiral Nelson ("England expects every man will do his duty", he signaled his fleet at the Battle of Trafalgar on the brink of engagement with the enemy. That was his last offical communication, I think).
Anyway, Lord Nelson had the hots for the young wife of some old coot nobleman high up the court, and they kept him at sea as much as possible to keep him away from her.
I hadn't been following this story too closely--until I heard about the "diapers"!
By the powers invested in me by no one in particular, I declare the Spring 2007 Silly Season to be unofficially open!
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I'm attacking America's enemies like a spurned astronaut!
- Stephen Colbert
It's funny, I was wondering something, but it hasn't been brought up.
The consensus here seems to be that this is nothing unexpected, that it wold be natural to have more incidents like this among astronauts, given their number. Is it true, though? I don't have any statistics on this kind of arrest, but how common is it for people to get arrested for attempted murder?
My own take at first was, isn't it possible that the very personality traits that make a successful astronaut -- I think being very driven is one, and a fair amount of courage is another -- also make this kind of thing possible?
And I suppose another question might be, why didn't the psych test catch it? But perhaps that's really a limitation of psych tests themselves. Nobody really knows how human minds work.
As above, so below
Not all men are run by their nethers, nor are all women. I suspect, however, that we can all name plenty of each who are.
And, as my best friend pointed out, though the male astronauts may not've gone after anyone with knives and pepper spray, it's not exactly as though most of them were completely faithful to their wives.
"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"
"You can't erase icing."
"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"
Well as General "Buck Turgidson"
said in Dr Strangelove
"I admit the human element seems to have failed us here."
I wonder if the "Send Robots Only movement" is going to make capital out of this incident.
Regarding our ill-fated astronaut, I think women are expected to perform flawlessly all the time; to be bastions of virtue. The least 'faux pas' and the world falls down on their heads. That would explain part of the fuss about the happening.