Originally Posted by satori
Dude, quit while you're behind. That first line sounds like either an admission of sock puppetry or malicious devil's advocacy, and the commentary on bipolarity is bordering on a personal attack.
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Dude, quit while you're behind. That first line sounds like either an admission of sock puppetry or malicious devil's advocacy, and the commentary on bipolarity is bordering on a personal attack.
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Not this particular kind of "psycho", though (if LB's case even counts as such at all). Lorena Bobbit retaliating against a man she had a problem with, not hunting down another woman for getting in her way with a man she actually liked. They're completely different psychological phenomena.One name in response: Lorena Bobbit.That was certainly requited, I think. The police blotter as many a case of women both requited and unrequited acting pycho.
Last edited by Delvo; 2007-Feb-06 at 11:36 PM.
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Dudler,
I am intensly studing the ways and workings of your linguistics( I am at all time in the learning mode) ,also your personal character would be of great interrest to me. You seem to live in quite close embrace with reality ( a thing I would instinctively shun away from) and have accordingly developed your own ideosyncratic way of coping!
Your addressing me as "Dude", I take for a compliment, as it remindes me of "the big Lebowski"...
As to your second point, I can't see my referral to an openly owned fact as anything like a personal attack. Where I wished to share you choose to see evil......That must surely have to do with your very own cynical personality vice versa the persona of YOUR "sock puppet".
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Hey, you mean like make the next shuttle launch a kind of "Reality" TV show?
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now that would utterly destroy my sanity!
I think its pretty clear that this IS an isolated incident. NASA, Gender or flight training dont really apply at all i think.
So many people make the news (Or DONT make the news) doing these same stunts. Because of her status as an Astronaut, however, her actions are High Profile. Not only because of that status but also because of a pretty good track record for Astronaut behavior up until this point.
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I also think this is an isolated incident that happens elsewhere as well.
My sanity was destroyed years ago.
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I don't buy into the "she did this because she's a woman" nonsense,there's too many men that've killed women 'cause of the "if I can't have her,no one will" craziness.
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by "isolated" i mean that it pertains ONLY to the lady and her activities in question. It does NOT speak of a career path or a gender as a whole.I also think this is an isolated incident that happens elsewhere as well.
My sanity was destroyed years ago.
Reading what vague snippets the news offers tells me that this case is like so many others i have heard of- male or female- from ALL walks of life.. and is being Maginified by the media because of the perps status.
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Me too, but it has probably happened in other career paths .
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Spare me!!!! Why is it one woman commits a crime and everyone starts spouting crap about "females" and their "hormones"???
Contrast the number of violent crimes committed by males vs women. And let's talk about testosterone and how it fuels violence and aggression. Can I talk about how male "reproductive" hormones control their owners?
You're treading on dangerous ground.
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Well I consider this offensive. The old idea that men are some kind of unsympathetic lugs that can't even tell when their girlfriend are on their period (the blood is normally a clue...)
I find that whenever women describe men as insensitive, they reduce men to simplistic sexual objects, run by their testicles. Which is of course what you are basically accusing men of. I suppose its easier to do that than to actually understand the opposite sex.
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Satori thanks for stirring that up,people can do stupid things especially if the other sex is involved, no matter male or female.
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Delvo,
When it involves knives and severing body parts, it counts as pyscho in my book.
Now, common scenario: Woman A thinks woman B is making eyes on her man. Fireworks generally fly from A to
Man has what he thinks is casual affair with woman A. Woman A takes it seriously, but since man is married, wife is in the way. A sees wife as obstacle to her love, and gets it in her for her.
This kind of stuff happens a lot. A small percentage lead to psycho behavior.
I've been on the receiving end of the sex reversed example of the first a time or two myself. I've made small talk with a woman or two, and had her jealous husband or boyfriend think I was making some sort of move. Situation gets dicey, especially when that jealous boyfriend has some alcohol in him.
Yep, I was singing that Lynard Skynard song, "(I said excuse me..)Give me three steps, give me three steps, mister, give me three steps toward the door. Give me three steps, give me three steps mister, and you'll never see me no more....."
And then what's really bad is when you find out the woman herself was actually just using you to make him jealous in the first place.
-Richard
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It's more than just humans. Seems like all mammals indulge in rivalry battles. In fact, birds do it too. Any organism advanced enough to do more than ooze along the slime, battles it out for sexual favors. All those biological units are the same, doncha know.It seems no circle is immune to the ravages of human emotion
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Messin' where you shouldn't be messin' has plagued the greatest amongst us since time immeriorial. I've having to bite my typing fingers here to stop the urge to make double entendres out of naval/nautical and aeronautical terminology here, but I've been having a ball otherwise.
The naval angle made me recall an interesting historical fact. The great Lord Admiral Nelson ("England expects every man will do his duty", he signaled his fleet at the Battle of Trafalgar on the brink of engagement with the enemy. That was his last offical communication, I think).
Anyway, Lord Nelson had the hots for the young wife of some old coot nobleman high up the court, and they kept him at sea as much as possible to keep him away from her.
-Richard
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I hadn't been following this story too closely--until I heard about the "diapers"!
By the powers invested in me by no one in particular, I declare the Spring 2007 Silly Season to be unofficially open!
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The Minister is proceeding to his post to judge the entrants.I hadn't been following this story too closely--until I heard about the "diapers"!
By the powers invested in me by no one in particular, I declare the Spring 2007 Silly Season to be unofficially open!
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You know that if the diapers were the same ones that NASA uses for the shuttle missions, she could also face charges of stealing and destroying government property.
Check out this neat Lisa Nowak relateditem I found on ebay.
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I was thinking the same sort of thing... What an absolute mess this would be in that situation.
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I'm attacking America's enemies like a spurned astronaut!
- Stephen Colbert
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No one would make home alive or everyone will be very happy.
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It's funny, I was wondering something, but it hasn't been brought up.
The consensus here seems to be that this is nothing unexpected, that it wold be natural to have more incidents like this among astronauts, given their number. Is it true, though? I don't have any statistics on this kind of arrest, but how common is it for people to get arrested for attempted murder?
My own take at first was, isn't it possible that the very personality traits that make a successful astronaut -- I think being very driven is one, and a fair amount of courage is another -- also make this kind of thing possible?
And I suppose another question might be, why didn't the psych test catch it? But perhaps that's really a limitation of psych tests themselves. Nobody really knows how human minds work.
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I didn't say boyfriends vs. girlfriends. I mean the, well, unsympathetic lugs with whom I used to work, the ones who didn't ever have to encounter the actual blood. These were the only guys I ever knew who speculated on when a woman was at "that time of the month." My boyfriend may be oblivious, but that oblivious he is not. However, he cannot currently tell when we talk (once a week) whether or not I have PMS.
Not all men are run by their nethers, nor are all women. I suspect, however, that we can all name plenty of each who are.
And, as my best friend pointed out, though the male astronauts may not've gone after anyone with knives and pepper spray, it's not exactly as though most of them were completely faithful to their wives.
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The way the charges are being "piled-up" on her, I'm surprised that she hasn't been charged with treason.
I wonder if this would be as big of a bru-ha if she hadn't flown in space yet?
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Flight risk!
Last edited by sarongsong; 2007-Feb-07 at 08:42 AM.
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Well as General "Buck Turgidson"
said in Dr Strangelove
"I admit the human element seems to have failed us here."
I wonder if the "Send Robots Only movement" is going to make capital out of this incident.
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Temptation Station?
Astronaut Big Brother?
Just wait for space tourism to get as big as some have predicted and you will see this. It will start with "who wants to be a cosmonaut" and spriral downward from that...
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IŽd say a little bit of aggressiveness is essential to the success of any person.
Regarding our ill-fated astronaut, I think women are expected to perform flawlessly all the time; to be bastions of virtue. The least 'faux pas' and the world falls down on their heads. That would explain part of the fuss about the happening.
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Orbital Orwell.
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A certain ex-football player comes to mind, making for quite a juicy story a while back.
If he did it, of course.
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