UFOs are hoax or they really appeared on the earth?

[suntrack2]

I have also heard that the most ufo's were seen in the nevada region, brazil, mexico for number of times. They were also appeared in the sphinx area of egypt, they were also observed at the top of the vulcanic erruption area.

Hydrogen is their fuel?

what is the reality?, are all ufo's are techonologically more advance than of earth's?

Why they appear with spped and went away with great speed?

Are they mostly caught on the radars previously?

What standards are derived for its realisation, as they were located in the sky? or suppose 1 or 2 big tail lights of the fighter plane looks like a ufo?

sunil

[Nowhere Man]

The first thing to remember is that UFO means "unidentified flying object," no more, no less. This includes everyting in the sky that you don't recognize. This can include planets (particularly Venus), normal aircraft lights combined with mixed-up perspective, mirages, technical glitches like bogus radar reflections, and, of course, swamp gas ( ).

UFO does not automatically mean "alien spacecraft."

So far, there has been less than a thimblefull of real evidence for any alien spacecraft, so most of your questions cannot be answered.

(NCOIC): "How to identify alleged sightings! ONE!"
(The General): "Pie plates, or as reflections in the atmosphere."
(NCOIC): "TWO!"
(The General): "Dry cleaning bags filled with marsh gas, or..."
(NCOIC) "THREE!"
(The General): "Mass insanity!"

Fred

[astromark]

Despite the considerable efforts of the few that believe they have seen or other wise witnessed a UFO. Not one has been able to show proof that what they saw was of alien origin. Of coarse there is all ways going to be some things unexplainable. That is only because we do not see well what it is. To label anything as a alien space craft is a huge leap of unscientific nonsense.

[Argos]

Probably you have noticed by now that UFO´s [meaning alien spacecraft] have a predilection for the American continent, particularly North America. It´s a psychosocial phenomenon.

Perhaps this reflects, subliminally, the circumstances in which the colonization of America occurred, the saga of distant masters arriving in strange vehicles. It would be imprinted in the collective consciousness of the (new) American peoples in general, gaining a channel of expression with the US technology hype of the early 20th century.

[PhantomWolf]

I think as the other have said. UFO simly means that a flying Object is unidentified, so as far as UFO's go, they really exist. What they are on the other hand is obviously a different question. You can't jump from UFO to ETV (Extra-Terristrial Vehicle) without proof, and so far there has been none.

One of the interesting things is that Astronomers report few UFO sightings, even though they spend more time than most sky gazing. Why that is, is open to interpretation, but an obvious answer is that they tend to know the sky and what's found in it better than other people, recognising Stars, Planets, and Satelites. I have seen several things myself that I am pretty sure that people with less knowledge of the sky would have considered a UFO (One was the ISS, one a satelite, one was a distant helicopter and the other was Venus apparently moving due to fast moving clouds.)

I think that all the known UFO cases so far have been cases of misidentification or hoaxes (some perpretrated by the observers and some on the observers.) As of yet I haven't seen any evidence that would totally convince me of an Alien presence in any form or shape on Earth.

[Ronald Brak]

UFOs are the new devil/angel.

[neilzero]

A highly organized debunking effort is very unlikely, but millions of humans debunk (even lie, cheat and steal) for the "good" cause of hidding and/or discrediting evidence of alien = ET visitors to Earth. The reasons for this debunking are mostly unknown to me, but peer pressure is an important motivator.
Men debunk for much the same reason they watch spectator sports. Since insufficient evidence is untainted, it is possible (but not probable) that there are no ET and never have been any ET visiting Earth. Neil

[cjl]

???


What do you mean?

All reasonable evidence points to it being incredibly unlikely that there are any aliens visiting earth, and as pointed out in a previous post, the people who spend the most time looking at the sky (astronomers) see the fewest "ETV's"

[dirty_g]

I myself have seen a UFO whilst out in the day testing my new telescope. Looking in the sky I saw a metal smoth object with a dome. Now I cannot tell you it was an alien having a little fly about in his spaceship. I don't know at all what it was hence it was a UFO. Even if I took a picture it does not mean it is an alien. For evidence that it was an alien I would most probably need an alien to land near me and pose for a picture or two and maybe leave me a few samples from his planet. So far nobody has done that. SOme people think it has happened but been covered up. Thats a whole can of worms there though.

[Effendi]

UFO? No problem:
http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/07/ufoguy.html

[dirty_g]

maybe there are camera tricks with this one but its mad!! So fast......http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/07/ufosighting.html

[R.A.F.]

maybe there are camera tricks with this one but its mad!! So fast......http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/07/ufosighting.html

Even Rense debunked that one...

[Ozzy]

I think bias towards sightings in the New World is an interesting common feature of "sightings". Perhaps their media is more willing to hype up the faintest whiff of something spooky. The public is fascinated by the potential for life outside our world, so I guess there's a lot of money to be made.

I did see some Russian footage that was supposed to be taken from a MiG.
The metallic object did some impressive turning and accelerated phenomenally and then disappeared. If the object was not a CGI trick, then it displayed flight capacities that are beyond currently publicly known ground to air craft. It was almost like a rickoche (spelling??) and made me think of bouncing off the earth's magnetic field. Just an observation.

I was driving on a back road of Nowra, Australia around ten oclock at night, and saw a bright light in the sky. It was at an unusual altitude, higher than you would expect. I can still remember the fascination and fear of that light. I slowed the car right down, and my fear that it may have been an alien craft grew.(I think I read Communion around that time). This was not a concious logical conclusion, it just hit very quickly, and seems to have come from the fact that the altitude of the light "wasn't right". My subconcious couldn't associate it to my known knowledge. As I slowly got closer, the logical part of my brain was trying very hard to override this fear.

It was a large spotlight high up on a tower, shining into dairy yards.
I had never seen a set up like this before (I'd hate to be paying the electricity bill).
Now if I see a high light in the country I can calmly look for its source.

[dirty_g]

I read an article someplace that a guy was drving home in North England or Scotland along the moors on a dark drizzly night. He spotted a bright light at first high but then low to the ground up ahead which was darting from left to right at speed and the light was getting brighter. He starts to get a bit concerned and slows down a bit to have a good look. Still the lights getting bigger and it's coming in at speed. Right towards him. The light is about to engulf him and he gives out a scream! Then the gritting lorry passes his car and carries on down the road. When it had been up high it had just been on a hill coming down. Think I read that in Fortean Times...... Made me chuckle.

[Gillianren]

It was almost like a rickoche (spelling??) . . . .

"Ricochet."

[astromark]

There is nothing wrong with imaginative spelling...
Ricochet... Said as rikoshay, Its not surprising we didn't get it right.. . . rite.
The very existence of this web site 'Bad astronomy' answers this question better than I can. With all the NORAD equipment, and all of Earths air forces, The whole of NASA, and the thousands of other astronomers around the world.
We still have No hard evidence. absolutely none.
At this time we might just be the only form of life that is remotely interested in what if's and maybe.

[Tog]

There is nothing wrong with imaginative spelling...

Wasn't it Mark Twain that said something like, "I pity the person that can only spell a word one way"?

I actually have three UFO stories. The first was when I was about 6. We were out in the driveway in a town with about 24 homes, so it was very dark. A right light, like a shooting star appeard and dropped below the hills, then less than a second later, it popped back up and faded away. At the time, it was a flying saucer. As I grew up, I decided it must have been 2 shooting stars and an incredible coincidence.

The second was something my mother and I saw over Salt Lake. Everything about it said it was a blimp with s lighted side panel for advertisig. It hung around for about 15 minutes. We pulled into a parking lot to see if anyone else may have seen it, maybe with a pair of binoculars, and not one other person had seen it. What's more, by that point it was gone. I don't recall Salt Lake ever having a blimp. This would have been about 1978.

The third was a daytime sighting. It was something yellow-orange flying around one peak of one of the mountains west of town. It was small, and really fast. I could see it was passing infront of, then behind the mountain, but by the time I got home, it was gone. If it was a helicopter, it was going way too fast for a search and rescue. I have no idea what it really was.

Oh, and a few days after 9-11, when the no fly rule was still in effect, there was a flight of 4 military (I assume) planes that fleew very low over the east side of the city, close to the moutains and only a couple of thousande feet above the ground. I built a lot of model airplanes as a kid, and can Identify most military aircraft from glancing at a small section of it. I have no clue what these were. They also had a deep and light blue camouflage that I'd never seen before or since. If I had to guess, I'd say they were Tornados, though we don't have them here that I know of.

[Kaptain K]

There is nothing wrong with imaginative spelling...

That is a matter of opinion. Unfair though it maybe, if you want people to think you know what you are talking about, it helps to appear to know how to spell it!

[Wolverine]

Note: the Question & Answers section is intended as a place where forum participants can receive conventional, mainstream answers to their queries. Just as we ask proponents of alternative or highly speculative areas of cosmology or physics to discuss their ideas in the Against the Mainstream section, proponents of extraterrestrial visitation, abduction, and related claims should pursue discussions of their ideas in either the Life in Space or Conspiracy Theories sections.

We don't want to confuse readers looking for answers with a mix of conventional and decidedly unconventional concepts or unsubstantiated assertions.

As such, I've split this thread -- interested parties may resume the discussion of extraterrestrial vehicles at its new home in the CT section, here.

[homo_cosmosicus]

Unbelievable!

Somebody errased every post I made in this thread,
and also all replys to my posts...

The point is clear:
Don't say UFOs are real, or else we delete such post.

[Hamlet]

Unbelievable!

Somebody errased every post I made in this thread,
and also all replys to my posts...

The point is clear:
Don't say UFOs are real, or else we delete such post.

No need to hyperventilate. The thread was moved into a more appropriate forum as was noted in Wolverine's post before yours. Just go here to continue the discussion.

[PhantomWolf]

Don't say UFOs are real, or else we delete such post.

This forum is for real science answers, not ATM things you make up in your sleep. As noted, Wolverine moved the posts to the Conspiracy Section.

[joema]

I have also heard that the most ufo's were seen in the nevada region, brazil, mexico for number of times...Hydrogen is their fuel?...are all ufo's are techonologically more advance than of earth's?

Any UFOs that are alien ships from other star systems would be vastly advanced technologically. Short of invoking miracles or magic, you can't get here without being so.

Such advanced vehicles (if they existed) would have no need to "hot dog" around the earth at low altitudes as if they were a barnstorming stunt pilot. Even with our primitive technology, optical reconnaissance satellites can resolve 4 inches from orbit. Radar recon sats can resolve nearly this much through clouds. Laser microphones can listen to conversations inside closed rooms miles away. Star-traveling aliens would get what data they needed from orbit.

If they wanted more close up data, they'd do what we do today -- send a miniature remote operated vehicle. They wouldn't land in a cow pasture and start walking around.

Our "advanced" technologies are primitive relative to aliens capable of interstellar travel. These aliens would have VASTLY more advanced remote sensing, computer and nano technology. They wouldn't need to probe people's teeth or genitals as if their technology was 1940s Nazi Germany. Even today we have non-invasive doppler ultrasound, PET scans, MRI scans, CT scans, etc. Star traveling aliens would be far more advanced.

Another problem with UFO credibility as alien vehicles is there are never, ever compelling images of them. Many eyewitness accounts relate "it landed right in front if me", "it was as big as a house", etc. Before the camcorder/digicam/cell camera era, you could argue maybe nobody had a film camera available. Nowadays US camcorder ownership is over 50 MILLION. Worldwide, 15 MILLION camcorders were shipped JUST IN 2003. Many of these have 16x optical zooms with image stabilization and low-light ability.

Consider many of the famous "classic" UFO photographs, e.g. http://media.urbandictionary.com/ima.../ufo-42789.jpg Years ago I'd often say "man, if he only had a better camera". Well today hundreds of millions of people do, and worldwide. Had the above image been taken by a modern digital camcorder with 16x zoom, you could see the rivet heads (if they existed). Alas, no such images are ever taken.

What does that tell you?

[howard2]

The chances of our planet being suitable for life forms from another biology are very slim indeed. We can see on a daily basis that our biological entities are very specific to the environment in which they evolved. We need our 1G gravity, our Oxygen, Nitrogen mix atmosphere. The O2 content of our atmosphere is an extremely dangerous and poisonous gas. Our cells die immediately in the presence of O2 when the mitochondria are removed. We evolved with mitochondria in each living cell to convert the O2 & carbohydrates into energy we can use. At a partial pressure of two atmospheres of O2, it is poisonous to us. Anybody who has done a Scuba course learns this.
We like to have answers , definitions, a yes or a no. Quantum theory & Chaos theory tell us that there are lots of maybes & very, very few absolutes. This is a necessary new attitude, a new way of thinking that we don't feel comfortable with. There maybe UFOs from alien civilisations. Maybe we will find out one day, maybe we won't. That's just the way it is.