An Email to Bart Sibrel I would like to share

[Bill Thmpson]

Bart,

Thank-you for opening up the eyes of the world to the great moon hoax. As you have indicated in your moon movie, light casts parallel shadows across a surface. And, I might add, we are not fooled by the pro-NASA talk about "vanishing point" and "focal length".

I hope you continue your work to uncover the truth.

Why don't you do the right thing and apply the same notion to this photo:



It is taken from the government's web site showing that aid is being distributed in Iraq. Look at the angle of the shadow of the soldier compared to the angle of the two men in the distance.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/ir...essay4/05.html

Clearly this is a hoax, wouldn't you say?

Why not make your next project exposing that the war in Iraq or some part of it (humanitarian aid, etc) is a hoax. Why not? It would not offend any more government employees than your Apollo hoax expose'. I suggest you add this to your long list of your life's worth-while tasks. Or perhaps, I will distribute this idea in your behalf.

--Bill Thompson

P.S. Your argument that the Apollo misions were only witnessed by a few people is a lie. Radio Telescopes are precise pointing instruments and they were used all over the world to view the precise location of the missions going to the moon and coming down.

[sacrelicious]

you know, I suspected the Iraqi invasion was faked all along, but now I have solid proof!

[Zachary]

I can just imagine Fox making a slap-dash program on why the Iraq war was a hoax in 50 years time :wink:

[Zamzara]

Not only the shadows, but that lorry must weigh at least 10,000 pounds and it hasn't made a crater in the sand.

Also there is a deadly region in between America and Iraq called the Atlantic Ocean, and if humans are submereged in at for more than about 5 minutes they will certainly die. Safe protection from it requires a shield made out of 12 ft of lead, don't you know?

[calliarcale]

The scariest thing is that ** might actually go ahead and do it....

[Donnie B.]

Obviously, Saddam and his regime must have been in on the whole thing. The US is paying them off with shipments of wheat. :roll:
(Corrected fumble finger syndrome)

[Bill Thmpson]

Not only the shadows, but that lorry must weigh at least 10,000 pounds and it hasn't made a crater in the sand.

Also there is a deadly region in between America and Iraq called the Atlantic Ocean, and if humans are submereged in at for more than about 5 minutes they will certainly die. Safe protection from it requires a shield made out of 12 ft of lead, don't you know?

Very good!

By the way, that is "truck" for all us yanks who don't know what a "lorry" is.

:wink:

[Tuckerfan]

I think we've just found out what happened to Baghdad Bob (aka the Iraqi Minister of Information)!

[Bill Thmpson]

I think we've just found out what happened to Baghdad Bob (aka the Iraqi Minister of Information)!

26 April - Widely reported that Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf (M.S.S.) tried to arrange his surrender with two Portuguese journalists last week, but then failed to show up. The journalists had heard that he was hiding "in a slum area of the capital, at a former civil servant." The host told them that, "the Minister wants to surrender to the Americans, but does not know how to make it." We suggest: "Don't shoot, I surrender" as opposed to "God will roast your stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis." Just a thought.




-- TREASURY OF DEATHLESS QUOTES --

"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"

"My feelings - as usual - we will slaughter them all"

"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"

"I blame Al-Jazeera - they are marketing for the Americans!"

"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."

"They're coming to surrender or be burned in their tanks."

"No I am not scared, and neither should you be!"

"Be assured. Baghdad is safe, protected"

"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!"

"We are not afraid of the Americans. Allah has condemned them. They are stupid. They are stupid" (dramatic pause) "and they are condemned."

"The Americans, they always depend on a method what I call ... stupid, silly. All I ask is check yourself. Do not in fact repeat their lies."

"I can say, and I am responsible for what I am saying, that they have
started to commit suicide under the walls of Baghdad. We
will encourage them to commit more suicides quickly."

"I can assure you that those villains will recognize, will discover in appropriate time in the future how stupid they are and how they are pretending things which have never taken place."

"We have destroyed 2 tanks, fighter planes, 2 helicopters and their shovels - We have driven them back."

"The authority of the civil defense ... issued a warning to the civilian population not to pick up any of those pencils because they are booby traps," he said, adding that the British and American forces were "immoral mercenaries" and "war criminals" for such behavior.
"I am not talking about the American people and the British people," he said. "I am talking about those mercenaries. ... They have started throwing those pencils, but they are not pencils, they are booby traps to kill the children."

"We have them surrounded in their tanks"

"The American press is all about lies! All they tell is lies, lies and more lies!"

"I have detailed information about the situation...which completely proves that what they allege are illusions . . . They lie every day."

"Lying is forbidden in Iraq. President Saddam Hussein will tolerate nothing but truthfulness as he is a man of great honor and integrity. Everyone is encouraged to speak freely of the truths evidenced in their eyes and hearts."

"Now even the American command is under siege. We are hitting it from the north, east, south and west. We chase them here and they chase us there. But at the end we are the people who are laying siege to them. And it is not them who are besieging us."

See more at:

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/

[Irishman]

Pencils? What is this business about pencils?

[Eirik]

Pencils? What is this business about pencils?

I'm not sure, exactly, but for some reason during the war they were said to be dropping pencils to the people of Iraq (I'm not sure if that's true, it sounds rather silly) but Baghdad Bob was warning the Iraqi people that they were poisoned. They said the same thing about the leaflets that the US dropped, that they were soaked in some kind of contact poison.

[JustplainBadatEverything]

Yah know change a few letters around and "Bart" becomes "Brat", and if you dont believe what he says he's gonna throw a temper tantrim!

[Zorpho]

I was sceptical about the moon landings but after seeing that lunatic Bart Sibrel stalk astronauts on camera as well as interviewing them "in their own homes" under false pretences I've changed my mind. The way they responded to his irrational accusations convinced me of their honesty. Come on now, he's accusing Edgar Mitchell of being part of this huge conspiracy with no more than a few minutes of video as evidence ? Admittedly the way they placed the pic of the Earth on the porthole looked bad but no one has ever bothered to ask them why it was done. Edgar Mitchell is a great man not only a skilled astronaut but also a great scientist and seeker of truth. His work in the field of consciousness and how it can be understood by science is nothing less than brilliant, the man has integrity Bart has no idea what sort of a man he is slandering.

[publiusr]

Hmmm. Iraq war a hoax. But they should have had Joe Pesci as Baghdad Bob. He's pretty mean with a pencil (CASINO)

[LaurelHS]

Admittedly the way they placed the pic of the Earth on the porthole looked bad but no one has ever bothered to ask them why it was done.

Or perhaps that isn't what was done at all. See here.

[Nowhere Man]

Thread necromancy alert: 9 years. Close to a record.

Fred

[chrlzs]

I was sceptical about the moon landings but...
I've changed my mind.
...
Admittedly the way they placed the pic of the Earth on the porthole looked bad but no one has ever bothered to ask them why it was done.
...

While I concede the necromancy issue , Like LaurelHS, I am very puzzled by Zorpho's (new) 'admission'. What makes him think they 'placed a pic'? And why would anyone bother to ask 'them' about something that never happened, and was clearly fabricated by Sibrel/Percy?

I think this issue is one on which he might want to change his mind, too...

[BigDon]

Hmmm. Iraq war a hoax. But they should have had Joe Pesci as Baghdad Bob. He's pretty mean with a pencil (CASINO)

Oddly enough I'm family friends with that character's first cousins. Pesci's character in real life was actually six and a half feet tall and 250 pounds.

[R.A.F.]

I was sceptical about the moon landings...

Why were you "skeptical"?

Admittedly the way they placed the pic of the Earth on the porthole looked bad but no one has ever bothered to ask them why it was done.

Could you elaborate?....what do you mean by "placed the pic of the Earth on a porthole"?

Edgar Mitchell is a great man not only a skilled astronaut but also a great scientist and seeker of truth. His work in the field of consciousness and how it can be understood by science is nothing less than brilliant, the man has integrity Bart has no idea what sort of a man he is slandering.

While I do respect anyone who straps a rocket to their rear, and blasts off into space, it is the considered opinion of most people that Dr. Mitchell's "consciousness studies" are just a lot of "hokem".

[Solfe]

Interesting... I thought Muhammad "Baghdad Bob" Saeed al-Sahhaf passed away, it appears he did not.

[Nowhere Man]

RAF, Zorpho probably won't be answering your question. He hasn't been here since he posted that message.

Fred

[R.A.F.]

DOH....didn't notice that post was from back in April.

Thanks for the "heads up"...I never would have noticed the date.

[jrkeller]

I was sceptical about the moon landings but after seeing that lunatic Bart Sibrel stalk astronauts on camera as well as interviewing them "in their own homes" under false pretences I've changed my mind. The way they responded to his irrational accusations convinced me of their honesty. Come on now, he's accusing Edgar Mitchell of being part of this huge conspiracy with no more than a few minutes of video as evidence ? Admittedly the way they placed the pic of the Earth on the porthole looked bad but no one has ever bothered to ask them why it was done. Edgar Mitchell is a great man not only a skilled astronaut but also a great scientist and seeker of truth. His work in the field of consciousness and how it can be understood by science is nothing less than brilliant, the man has integrity Bart has no idea what sort of a man he is slandering.

If you really want to see Ed Mitchell in action, watch Bart Sibrel's (**) "Astronauts Gone Wild". Mitchell kicks him in the butt before throwing him out of his house.

[ClaudiaT]

Recent analysis of the Adrin punch on Sibrel video has suggested the scene may well have been staged. If the video is slowed , one notes Sibrel is punched before the film maker finishes calling Aldrin names.

[R.A.F.]

Thanks for the "giggle", ClaudiaT, and welcome to the board.

[ClaudiaT]

HERE'S A COPY OF THE VIDEO RAF. I think I posted it on another thread here too. You should try this yourself. My girlfriend Kristen and I did this particular version using a copy of the original we purchased on line and then doing our editing with imovie. Our editing just involved adding freeze frames, nothing more. There had been many copies on YouTube for a while of this video, some were slowed and some were frozen and some both slowed and frozen. I heard Sibrel got ticked off and had the uploaders remove them on copyright grounds. Doesn't matter really because the most important thing of course is to do it yourself. I think Sibrel is a jerk. Kristen said Jarrah White came up with this originally, but there is nothing like it on his web site, youtube deally. I think it is one of those things that many have discovered simultaneously more ore less. Becomes obvious really when you get to thinking about it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRBesDx1WQc&feature=plcp


Try it RAF, IT'S FUN !!!!!

[PetersCreek]

ClaudiaT,

While the board software allows video embedding, our rules do not. I have converted it to a link. If you have not yet read our rules...linked in my signature line below...please do so.

[Van Rijn]

Recent analysis of the Adrin punch on Sibrel video has suggested the scene may well have been staged. If the video is slowed , one notes Sibrel is punched before the film maker finishes calling Aldrin names.

And the relevance of this is . . . ?

Sibrel had Aldrin cornered and was harassing Aldrin. Aldrin said "Will you get away from me?" and when Sibrel not only didn't back off, but continued harassing Aldrin, Aldrin punched him while Sibrel is still talking. So we hear Sibrel saying, "you're a liar, coward, and a thie . . . (woof) . . .f."

Makes sense to me. Should we have expected Aldrin to patiently wait for Sibrel to complete his accusations before the punch?

[ClaudiaT]

Oh so sorry PetersCreek. I'll not do that again. Hopefully the link will work. Cheers, Claudia.

[ClaudiaT]

The punch sound actually comes after the visible punch on some versions of the video and the word "thief" is always heard after the blow is struck. If you look and listen carefully, you will note that a person could not actually do that, get hit full on in the face and then enunciate the word "thief" with perfect clarity. Try it for yourself Van Rijn. The significance is that Aldrin and Sibrel are not adversaries, but are actually cooperating. It is a funny little modern proof that Apollo was fake and it goes a long way to show that a lot of energy continues to go into fooling the public. The fake Apollo landings were the most import important events of the 20th century.