Obesity "becoming an alarming one" in our World

[suntrack2]

In this nice world there are the people who might be suffer with problem.


Are there solutions in science to cope up with this problem, or you think that obesity is not the problem they looks more healthy, what's bad.

I heard that steam bath is good to descend from the higher weight problems


sunil (please read "in our world in the topic name)

http://www.obesityindia.com/doctor/index.asp

http://sify.com/news/scienceandmedic...hp?id=13900674

http://www.keepmedia.com/featuredtop...ty?extID=10036

http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itg...ijge/dietz.htm

[ToSeek]

Too much food + not enough exercise.

PBS did a miniseries a while back about several modern families moving to Montana and living how they would have lived in the late 1800s (Frontier House). After about a month of this rather physically challenging existence one of the men freaked out after realizing how much weight he was losing and called in a doctor. The doctor looked him over and basically said, "For the first time in your life, you're healthy."

[Gillianren]

True enough. Gods know I need to lose weight. (I am, too. About a pound a month, which isn't great but is something.)

[Ara Pacis]

Sure there are some possible scientific helps. Obesity is often caused by boredom-eating instead of hunger eating. Perhaps lower calorie comfort convenience foods that are high in soluble an insoluble fiber would help. In order for this to work the foods should be tasty and not labeled as a diet food.

[snabald]

Too much food + not enough exercise

And low quality refined food full of empty calories.

I used to weigh 300+ pounds, I stopped drinking soda, cut way back on fried food and switched to whole wheat bread. I also started lifting weights three times a week.

Today I weigh 200 pounds, and am only about 15-17% body fat.

[ToSeek]

True enough. Gods know I need to lose weight. (I am, too. About a pound a month, which isn't great but is something.)

My attitude about dieting is that so long as the weight's changing in the right direction, I'll get there eventually. (I've lost 32 pounds - 252 to 220 - but it took me almost 2-1/2 years to do it.)

[Van Rijn]

Recently at work we had a presentation on this. It's becoming a major health issue. They had graphs showing increase in obesity in the U.S. over the last couple decades, and the percentages of those very overweight had increased dramatically in that period.

In my case, one of the very few positive things about having Crohn's (even when not particularly active) is that maintaining my weight is not a significant issue. If it is active, the trick is to keep the weight up, unless I'm on prednisone.

With that exception, I've never had a huge appetite. I've known people that really loved food. For me, I enjoy it, and I will eat snacks, but I just don't dwell on it.

Prednisone temporarily changed the rules, and I could see how hard it would be for some to cut their food intake if they naturally felt what was induced artificially for me. The stuff really messes up your insulin production among other things. I would almost always feel hungry, and if I went without eating for a couple hours I would get the shakes. I gained 60 pounds in a short period of time.

Getting off of it was an experience too. After I cut the prednisone I literally had fat to burn, and often would go through the day without food, then get a light snack at night. I just had no appetite. My weight finally stabilized within a few pounds of my pre-prednisone level.

Physiology is strange stuff.

By the way, it should go without saying, but I would easily choose a weight problem over Crohn's.

[Gillianren]

Physiology is strange stuff.

By the way, it should go without saying, but I would easily choose a weight problem over Crohn's.

Unfortunately, some of us have weight problems exacerbated by our health problems. My best friend gained fifteen pounds in a few months due to one of her meds--and then fifteen more after going off it because of continued wonky biochemistry.

What's fun for me is that the manic depression means I don't in so many words have eating habits. How I eat and what I eat (and how much I eat) varies so widely from day to day that my metabolism can't really settle down. (Well, and the arthritis and scoliosis combine to prevent me from getting enough exercise.)

[Van Rijn]

(Well, and the arthritis and scoliosis combine to prevent me from getting enough exercise.)

I feel your pain, literally. I have Crohn's related arthritis, which picks up during flareups. I've done pretty well recently, but there have been many times when just trying to walk was torture, and the joint pain (along with other pain) would keep me awake at night. Sometimes I had to be really careful just putting on socks - that could move the hip or knee joint enough for the pain to kick in. Joint range was severely limited.

What made it more fun is that NSAIDS (aspirin, naproxin, etc.) can exacerbate Crohn's so I had to limit that. And given that acetaminophen is virtually useless . . .

Generally, it doesn't do much joint damage, but causes intense pain that moves from joint to joint. Still, my right wrist is noticeably enlarged.

I also have scoliosis, but I was pretty lucky there - it was limited enough that I didn't have to wear a backbrace growing up. Instead, I did daily back strengthening exercises. I have been out on my back a few times (once I picked up a chair the wrong way and could barely move for a couple weeks), but I don't think the scoliosis was a major factor in making that worse.

[Gillianren]

I just don't use painkillers much at all, because I'm paranoid about building up resistance. You can tell it's bad if I give up on my hot beanbag, my heating pad, or my baths and just take pills.

My hips are three inches out of alignment, according to a friend who was measuring me for some clothes she was making me. But when I took my x-ray for disability, they made me straighten my hips before they'd take the picture! Thus, the State of Washington thinks my back's just fine.

[NEOWatcher]

It looks to me like people don't even know that obesity is a problem!

Layers of fat make it harder to regulate body temperature, experts say

Layers of fat make it extra difficult for a body to dissipate heat, or to move to a cool location.

Now that's obese.

[Click Ticker]

While I agree that obesity is a problem - I disagree with the presently accepted height weight charts.

It seems that for women - they run on the heavy side being the accepted norm while for men - you have to be built like Lance Armstrong not to be considered heavy.

I consider myself of a medium frame. According to my ideal height/weight I should be between 171 and 187 lbs at 6' 4". I'm 218 right now (down from a high of 240) and could likely stand to drop another 10 - 15 lbs. I couldn't imagine getting down to 180.

Of course the more accurate assessment is Body Mass Index (BMI) - but I'm pretty sure they still use the old height/weight charts to assess obesity in the general population. In doing so - they would classify Arnold as obese when he was filming the Terminator movies.

[Argos]

I read an article this early this week about how obesity is affecting the accuracy of x-ray diagnosis. Can´t link it, though.

[gzhpcu]

While I agree that obesity is a problem - I disagree with the presently accepted height weight charts.

It seems that for women - they run on the heavy side being the accepted norm while for men - you have to be built like Lance Armstrong not to be considered heavy.

I consider myself of a medium frame. According to my ideal height/weight I should be between 171 and 187 lbs at 6' 4". I'm 218 right now (down from a high of 240) and could likely stand to drop another 10 - 15 lbs. I couldn't imagine getting down to 180.

Of course the more accurate assessment is Body Mass Index (BMI) - but I'm pretty sure they still use the old height/weight charts to assess obesity in the general population. In doing so - they would classify Arnold as obese when he was filming the Terminator movies.

You have to be careful with BMI because it is not valid for athletes. Muscle weighs more than fat. I am 6'2" and weigh 190 lbs. My BMI is 24.4. My range is 18.5 to 24.9. Overweight is above 25. I am close to the boundary. I work out daily with weights and am no where close to being almost overweight.

[Ronald Brak]

My advice is don't diet. Eat healthily and exercise but eat enough so you don't go hungry. Even though this will result in many people still being fatter than they would like to be, it should keep them fit and healthy and there is no point in makeing yourself miserable by trying to look fashionable. Too many people make themselves miserable trying to be thin and failing when they could be chubby and happy.

[ToSeek]

I consider myself of a medium frame. According to my ideal height/weight I should be between 171 and 187 lbs at 6' 4". I'm 218 right now (down from a high of 240) and could likely stand to drop another 10 - 15 lbs. I couldn't imagine getting down to 180.

That 171-187 figure is based on the Met Life charts of 1983, which are known to have problems with tall people (see here - apparently they don't take in the square-cube law, also the height is with one-inch heels).

A better chart is here, which fits fairly well with your estimate that you could stand to lose another 10-15 pounds.

[Ronald Brak]

A better chart is here, which fits fairly well with your estimate that you could stand to lose another 10-15 pounds.

No, that chart's still no good. Give me another one to try.

[Gillianren]

The problem with such charts for women, at least in part, is that women have bits that weigh extra that may or may not be proportionate in size to the rest of their body. (And that second chart didn't really show frame size; I have a very large rib cage, for example. And big hips that losing all my body fat wouldn't make substantially smaller.)

[NEOWatcher]

... women have bits that weigh extra that may or may not be proportionate in size to the rest of their body....

For men, that would be bragging.

[Gillianren]

It would be if you said it substantially altered your body weight. For women, the extra bits actually can and do. They're bigger, you know.

[TriangleMan]

A better chart is here, .

*sigh* looks like I gotta work out more on the treadmill, I definately need to lose 10-20 pounds.

[Ronald Brak]

*sigh* looks like I gotta work out more on the treadmill, I definately need to lose 10-20 pounds.

Depends. If losing that weight causes you more pain that the benefits I would say don't worry about it. What is most dangerous for your health is eating poorly and not exercising. If you eat healthily and get a moderate amount of exercise in then you are likely to stay healthy even if you are carrying extra pounds. If those extra pounds come from eating junk, then you could be in trouble.

[TriangleMan]

If those extra pounds come from eating junk, then you could be in trouble.

Yup. I changed jobs a few months ago and haven't been exercising as much as I used to and eating worse than I used to (our office's favourite lunch options are hitting the food court). I figure in the last three months I've gained around 8 pounds. In the last week I've moved to eating salad or Subway at the food court and hitting the treadmill almost everyday. In time the weight will come off.

[Ronald Brak]

I used to be much lighter when I was living in Japan. I've become much heavier since returning to Australia, but the process actually started while I was still in Japan. I think the longer I stayed there the more I learned how to find unhealthy food.

[Gillianren]

It's a combination for me of horrible eating habits and too little exercise, but at least I have medical reasons (kinda) for both--it's hard for me to retain a pattern in anything, especially food, and it hurts to exercise, though I do try fairly regularly. (I've started leash-training the cat. This means that our walks are long ambles in circles followed by short dashes toward our apartment whenever he hears a car. We only take him out at night.)

[01101001]

In related news...

LA Times: Does a bug in our gut make us fat?

Obese people have higher levels of unusually efficient bacteria in their guts than lean people do, offering a possible explanation for why they get fat, researchers reported today.
[...]
In effect, obese people obtain more energy than lean people do from the same amount of food, and those extra calories are deposited on their waists.

The same disparity was found in mice, and giving lean mice the bacteria from fat animals caused them to gain weight, the researchers said.

"If they are right, this could really be a significant advance," [Dr. Richard Atkinson] said. "But I am not sure they are interpreting their data right. Correlation is not causation."

[Tinaa]

Give me something to kill some of that bacteria! Mine must be super-duper efficient!

[Sam5]

We are not getting fat. Clothes are getting smaller. This is a clothing industry conspircy.

[erisi236]

I remember not all that long ago I stopped drinking soda for 3 months, that and that alone was the only thing different I did and I shed 10 pounds of unsightly flab. I must say I was pretty stunned.

I'm addicted to soda though and started drinking it again.

[Gsquare]

Are there solutions in science to cope up with this problem, or you think that obesity is not the problem they looks more healthy, what's bad.

I heard that steam bath is good to descend from the higher weight problems

I like this solution:

" Never eat more than you can lift". - Ms. Piggy