Tianxi Sun's Rift Evolution Thread

[sun45114]

An Open Letter to NASA

NASA:

I am writing you with much concern after having read news about your explorers, which named Phoenix that will be launched by NASA in August 2007 to land and scout the high northern latitudes of Mars to seek life in May 2008 [1] and named LRO that will impact again to the Moon to seek water ice there in 2008 [2].

I query the actual effects of your programs and advance some suggests for you as follows, according to one of the viewpoints of RIFT EVOLUTIONISM [3-6] (there is rift valley in one star(i.e., heavenly body---edited by sun45114 on July 9, 2006), there could be water body and the life there, such as Mars):

1. Now that the main goal of Phoenix is to seek Mars life, it should land onto Mars’ rift valley directly. If there is some kind of lives on Mars, the Martian living beings should be first appeared in the area of the rift valley, such as Valles Marineris. So, I suggest that the landing site of Phoenix should be onto Mars' rift valley (for example, Valles Marineris).

2. There is no rift valley on our Moon. Therefore, there couldn’t exist any water ice there. The impacting to the southern pole of the Moon in 1999 has testified it. The future impacting of LRO will testify it again! I suggest that NASA should declare with clear and open what’s lurking within permanently darkened craters after the impacting in 2008.
…
Looking forward to hearing from you!

Sincerely yours,

Tianxi Sun (孙天锡)
Professorial Senior Engineer
P. R. of China
sun45114@yahoo.com.cn
Thu, 13 Apr 2006

[1] http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Mar...Scout2007.html
[2] http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ex...ain/index.html
[3] Sun Tianxi, 1987.On biologic evolution with plate breakup. In: International Symposium on Tectonic Evolution and Dynamics of Continental Lithosphere (Abstracts). Beijing, China, 2-143 (in English).
[4] Sun Tianxi, 1988. Living things and rift valleys. Nature journal, Shanghai, China, 6:430-434 (in Chinese).
[5] Sun Tianxi, 2001. Rift Evolutionism (Chinese traditional version). Hong Kong Tranfor Publishing Co. Limited, Hong Kong. ISBN: 962-85541-5-8 (in Chinese)
[6]. Sun Tianxi, 2004. Rift Evolutionism (Chinese simplified version). Sichuan Science and Technology Publishing House, Chengdu, China. ISBN: 7-5364-5411-2 (in Chinese).

[antoniseb]

I see your links, but I can't find anything on the web about "Rift Evolutionism".
Can you please point to something available that can give more details about your idea that rift valleys are the source of life.

[Blob]

Hum,
Imho, Valles Marineris formed when the ancient crust cracked as the planet cooled, rather than being formed by magmatic forces as on Earth.

Personally i wouldn't class Valles Marineris as a tectonic rift valley; but I'm not a geologist so my definition may be incorrect...

[aurora]

Hum,
Imho, Valles Marineris formed when the ancient crust cracked as the planet cooled, rather than being formed by magmatic forces as on Earth.

It is definitely associated with the Tharsus uplift.

Take a look at the images on this site:

http://ltpwww.gsfc.nasa.gov/tharsis/global_paper.html

[aurora]

2. There is no rift valley on our Moon. Therefore, there couldn’t exist any water ice there.

Rift valleys are not required for the existence of either water or ice.

Why do you think they are?

[Blob]

It is definitely associated

Hum,
tnx for correction,
yeah, it looks like it is associated with the Tharsus uplift.

It seems that the cool crust was cracked as the Tharsus region was uplifting, rather than when the crust cooled after the uplift was created.
So it maybe is the same as spreading rift valleys, or the mid Atlantic ridge on Earth, er, except there is no mobile tectonic plates or subduction zones etc, to for it to spread...

Or not.

[ToSeek]

Thread moved from Astronomy to Space Exploration.

It would be an interesting question as to whether it's possible to land Phoenix safely within the Valles Marineris. That's the reason the rovers didn't land there - the walls were too close and the winds were too high.

[Cugel]

As you can find out here: http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/science/objectives.php

Phoenix is not designed to look for life. It does chemical analysis of soil samples, mainly to figure out if, and how much, water ice is present in the soil. It makes sense to do this in an environment that has showed a relatively high abundance of hydrogen from orbit. Hydrogen could mean water ice. In Vallis Marineris the water ice, permafrost if you like, if present is likely much deeper under ground and couldn't be detected from orbit. In the polar regions the water ice is covered with CO2 ice for a large part of the year which prevents it from sublimation. Therefor it could be present very close to the surface, where Phoenix can reach it. So, I don't think it would make much sense of landing a Phoenix like mission in Vallis Marineris or anywhere close to the equator, where it would only dig up the omni present Martian dust.

Anyway, it would be rather silly to look for current life in a spot where it so obviously can not exist.

[sun45114]

I see your links, but I can't find anything on the web about "Rift Evolutionism".
Can you please point to something available that can give more details about your idea that rift valleys are the source of life.

[sun45114]

I see your links, but I can't find anything on the web about "Rift Evolutionism".
Can you please point to something available that can give more details about your idea that rift valleys are the source of life.

[sun45114]

Dear all Doctors:

First of all, I thank you very much for your messages.

1. My book titled RIFT EVOLUTIONISM was in Chinese. So, you can't find anything on the web about "Rift Evolutionism";

2. The whole content of RIFT EVOLUTIONISM is as follows:

I have advanced a new thesis that life must come from rift valleys, according to the relativity between living beings and rift valleys. The hypothesis tries to seek the origin of humankind even of the life, and to remedy a shortcoming of Darwin's theory, i.e., to solve such a question Darwin didn't solve as following: Where would be the life/humankind originated firstly?

The book has some practical or immediate significance for exploring life in outer space. There is rift valley in one star; there could be water body and the life there, such as Mars.

The book cites numerous facts of the evolution within rift valleys, elaborates 8 mechanisms of rift evolution and tests and verifies it in 4 fields:
1. Rift valleys: origin places of humanity;
2. Rift of America: origin places of American Indian;
3. Rift of Japan: origin places of Ainu;
4. NASA's seeking water in outer space blindly
without guide by RIFT EVOLUTIONISM.
Thus founding a new hypothesis of biogenesis or bio-evolution.

The book raises a great judgment that the most important scientific objective for humans should be to discover some RIFT-STARS in outer space and thus finding a way out, before our Earth be ruined.

According to RIFT EVOLUTIONISM, humans could perhaps find water resources, find other lives and find some way out, within the vast universe...

3. TABLE OF CONTENTS

INTRODUCTION
BIBLIOGRAPHY

CHAPTER Ⅰ
LIFE ORIGINS FROM RIFT VALLEYS

1. RIFT VALLEYS
2. LIFE AND RIFT VALLEYS
BIBLIOGRAPHY

CHAPTER Ⅱ
MECHANISMS OF RIFT EVOLUTION

1. SMASHING REACTION
2. VENT REACTION
3. NITROGEN FIXATION
4. MOLYBDENUM ENZYME
5. GENE EMBEDDING
6. MOLECULE OXYGEN
7. VOLCANO PUMP
8. POWERFUL MAGNETIC FIELD
BIBLIOGRAPHY

CHAPTER Ⅲ
EXAMPLE VERIFY TO RIFT EVOLUTIONISM

1. RIFT VALLEYS: ORIGIN PLACES OF HUMANKIND
(1) Amphipithecus and Pondaungia
(2) Aegyptopithecus
(3) Dryopithecus
(4) Sivapithecus
(5) Australopithecus
(6) Homo habilis
(7) Homo erectus
(8) Homo sapiens

2. RIFT OF AMERICA: ORIGIN PLACES OF THE AMERICAN INDIAN
(1) About anthropology characteristics
(2) About ancient cultural hangovers
(3) About Diego sub blood type
(4) About J C virus
(5) About human originated in America
(6) About Bering Land Bridge

3. RIFT OF JAPAN: ORIGIN PLACES OF THE AINU
(1) Whether Japan does exist continental rift
(2) Whether the Ainu is the oldest in Japan
(3) Whether the Ainu does have specificity

4. SEEKING WATER BLINDLY IN OUTER SPACE WITHOUT GUIDE BY RIFT EVOLUTIONISM
(1) Jupiter
(2) Moon
BIBLIOGRAPHY

CHAPTER Ⅳ
A NEW HYPOTHESIS OF SEEKING OUTER PLANET’S LIFE

1. RIFT STARS WITHIN SOLAR SYSTEM
(1) The planet having hard lithosphere is not certain to own its rift
A. Old meteorite craters
B. Density abnormity
C. There is no any trace of iron in surface
(2) There is rift , there can be water and life
A. Venus
B. Mars
C. Europa

2. THE MILKY WAY
(1) 100 planets outside Solar System
(2) HST is a strong assurance for questing RIFT STARS

3. EXTERNAL GALAXY
(1) Limit and infinite about Universe
(2) Pessimism and optimism about life
BIBLIOGRAPHY

CHAPTER Ⅴ
HUMAN GREAT EXPEDITION

1. DESTINY OF THE EARTH
(1) Impact
(2) Sear
(3) Scorch
(4) Frost

2. SOME DIFFICULTIES FOR INTERSTELLAR EXPEDITION
(1) Space fragments
(2) Space navigation costing
(3) Vacuum danger
(4) Cosmic rays
(5) Osteoporosis
(6) Chalybeate overmuch
(7) Weightlessness
(8) Inappetence
(9) Sexual desire
(10) Time perception losing
(11) Space flight accidents
(12) Spacecraft engine refrigeration

3. THE LAST GREAT EXPLORATION OF HUMAN
(1) Green skin
(2) Interstellar cloning
BIBLIOGRAPHY

CONCLUDING REMARKS
BIBLIOGRAPHY

APPENDIX
Sun Tianxi’s investigative history during past 30 years
BIBLIOGRAPHY

INDEX

COLOUR PAGES

4. There should be some fossils of Martian living beings within Valles Marineris. They might be buried in Martian dust now, I think

Sincerely yours,

Tianxi Sun
Professorial Senior Engineer
P. R. of China
sun45114@yahoo.com.cn

[Launch window]

You've got huge knowledge on this subject but I'm sure there is no need to worry about this because NASA's Phoenix isn't a life finding mission ( well....I think it isn't )

[Cugel]

It's kind of difficult to judge your ideas on a content listing alone. To link the origin of mankind with rift valleys seems quite logical and even factual to me. I'm not so sure about the origin of life itself, which seems to be a completely different subject all together (a chemical issue, where the origin of mankind seems to be more a social issue). Unfortunately, I do not understand what you mean with 'Rift Stars'. Could you elaborate a bit on this?

BTW, your list of 'SOME DIFFICULTIES FOR INTERSTELLAR EXPEDITION' is missing a corner piece: DISTANCE. For instance, I fail to see how sexual appetite can be a problem when the journey will take 40.000 years or so.
What do you suggest? 40.000 years without sex? Man, count me out!

[sun45114]

By 'Rift Star' is meant some planets and moons that possess its rift valleys, such as Venus, Mars and Europa.

[Cugel]

Thanks, I got confused by 'Star' in that. I have another question. If rift valleys are indeed the place where life started, does your theory provide a mechanism for how this happened? In other words, does it answer the 'how' question and not just the 'where'?

[sun45114]

Without plate breaking, there would be no sea floor spreading; and without sea floor spreading, there would be no continental drift. Therefore, it might be a great significance to research breaking of plate.

The hypothesis of plate breaking (Sun Tianxi, 1983, 1984, 1987 [3,6,7]) considered that the greatest worldwide plate breakings were mainly concentrated at the ends of Lower Proterozoic Subera (about 2 000 million years ago), Triassic Period (about 190 million years ago) and Eogene Period (about 40 million years ago), forming the Pacific Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean, and a great number of continental rift valleys and marginal seas respectively.

Many researches [1] have pointed out that the most ancient rift valleys in Earth’s lithosphere arose 2 000 million years ago; Moreover, in Mesozoic Era and Tertiary Period, breakings of plates were brisk particularly. This conclusion seems to conform to mine above mentioned in the respect of time.

The author (Sun Tianxi, 1987, 1988) [7,8] noticed that biological evolution was in close relationship with plate breaking (Table 1-2), noticed that sulphurvorous Monera were coincident to oceanic ridges just the same in regions [9] and noticed that the birthplaces of dinosaurs and humans were rather identical with continental rift valleys in distribution [10,11].

And then the author put forward a new boundary supposition that plate breaking hold the control over the macrocosmic changes in living things: just as ultraviolet radiation can make the cell body suddenly change, the stimulation as greatest and strongest on the Earth as plate breaking, possibly could lead the biological system to a macroscopically mutation, so as to be possible for rift valley systems (oceanic ridges and/or continental rift valleys) resulted from plate breaking to become the earliest birth places where the new genus, the new order, even the new phylum of living things were first produced.

Moreover, the author also noticed that the plate breaking could exert a conclusive influence on species’ evolution rate. During the three periods of plate breaking above, the evolution of species went on fast and with sudden changes; but out of the three periods of plate breaking slowly and gradually (Table 1-3) [8], which Charles Darwin’s Evolutionism had explained.

In the biosphere, macroscopically the evolution and extinction at the high level (such as class, order and family) were controlled by the three plate breakings above mentioned in Table 1-2; however, the biological extinctions out of the three breakings of plates, the level would be much lower (such as genus or species), without any great action. Prof. Goold, an American scientist, also named them “the extinction in ordinary geological periods” [12]. In fact, the lower level extinction events in Northern China have just been occurred at least 7 times for 1. 8 million years [12].

FILE ATTACHMENT: 'Table 1-2' and ' (Table 1-3)'

[Van Rijn]

2. There is no rift valley on our Moon. Therefore, there couldn’t exist any water ice there. The impacting to the southern pole of the Moon in 1999 has testified it. The future impacting of LRO will testify it again! I suggest that NASA should declare with clear and open what’s lurking within permanently darkened craters after the impacting in 2008.

I repeat my question here:

http://www.bautforum.com/showpost.ph...62&postcount=5

Please explain this. What does a rift valley have to do with the presence or absence of water on the moon?

[sun45114]

Dear Dr.Van Rijn:

Please read my book titled RIFT EVOLUTIONISM,if you interest this problem so much.

My this book has about 300 pages (in Chinese Vension).
Sichuan Science and Technology Publishing House(Chengdu, China) published it in 2004. ISBN: 7-5364-5411-2 (in Chinese).

Now, Chinese has become an international language.

The Website of buying RIFT EVOLUTIONISM are:

1. http://www.xinzhi.com.cn/research.asp
2. http://www.welan.com/html/07/84007.Html
3. http://www.zgcbb.com/product.asp?id=753645411
4. http://www.xinzhi.com.cn/book.asp?id=357640
5. http://www.hanlin.com/program/bookde...kid=7536454112
6. http://xinxin.6688.com/product/books...aspx?sn=380910
7. http://www.dushu.com/bbook129905.shtml
8. http://www.gzbookcenter.com/search/s...mageField.y=10
9. http://www.hanlin.com/program/bookde...kid=7536454112
10. http://www.hantang2000.com/BookStore...F8%BB%AF%C2%DB
11. http://www.hhhbook.com/sub10-1.jsp?page=4&id=15#

Sincerely yours,

Tianxi Sun
Professorial Senior Engineer
P. R. of China
sun45114@yahoo.com.cn

[Van Rijn]

Dear Dr.Van Rijn:

Please read my book titled RIFT EVOLUTIONISM,if you interest this problem so much.

First, "Van Rijn" will do.

Second, you made a claim in more than one thread that we would not find water on the moon because of the lack of a rift valley. You were asked to explain the reasoning behind your claim. Rather than doing so, you have advertised your book. I'm not a moderator, but generally, stating a claim and then saying "Buy the book" (in whatever language) when questioned is not looked on favorably on this forum.

So, do you have any explanation for your claim? Are you willing to defend it in any way here? I see no association between a rift valley and the presence or lack of water on the moon.

[Arneb]

Yes, it would be nice to have some substantiation for a change. Sun, very few people here will buy the book, even among the minority here who do speak Chinese. Saying "it's all in the book, so buy it and youl'l know" will not cut any ice here.

Any scientist worth his money can make a concise summary of his claims, the evidence that supports it, and how he arrived at his conclusions. Every scientific text can be summarized. So please do that for us.

Saying that to read a book in Chinese should be no problem because Chinese is now "an international language" is nonsense. You know full well that a very small porportion of westerners speak Chinese, and you won't help your argument by saying it's all our own fault if we can't follow you.

So where, please, is the beef?

[antoniseb]

Hi Sun45114,

You are pretty new here, so in this case, I am letting you off with a warning. Please don't advertise your book here again.

[sun45114]

Dear "Van Rijn":

1. We are the contracting parties on "water on Moon".
you said:"There are some shaded craters at the pole that may contain water as ice and in rock, deposited by comet impacts, and there is some evidence for the presence of a limited amount of water. "; and I said:"there couldn’t exist any water ice there".

2. Your basis is "deposited by comet impacts"; and mine is "there is no rift valley on our Moon".

3. Then, you ask me why and how. However, why don't you first explain a self-contradictory in your theory?

It is very universal that stars including planets and moons were/are undergone a lot of impacting by comets. According to your theory, there should be some amount of water within almost all stars, except our Sun. But, two facts are: (1) On 1994 July 16-22, over twenty fragments of comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 collided with the planet Jupiter. And its result? Did it find any water on the Jupiter, even a bit? (2) On July 31, 1999, NASA's Lunar Prospector spacecraft dived into a permanently shadowed crater near the Moon's south pole. And its result? Did it find water on our Moon? even a bit either?

What interpretation would you put on them?

4. Of course, I'll explain for my views later with greatly honoured, although it is hard to explain in a few words (just for this reason and for details, I spoke of my book).

5. Out of goodwill, I suggested you to read my book. In fact, for supporting China's publishing cause, I have abstained my royalty of RIFT EVOLUTIONISM (Chinese simplified version). So, there exists no problem of so-called "advertised your book". I'm sorry to overstimate your lever in mastering Chinese language.

6. The Discussion between scientists ought to be done with the rational and having poise, but with imperious bearing.

Sincerely yours,

Tianxi Sun
Professorial Senior Engineer
P. R. of China
sun45114@yahoo.com.cn

[Arneb]

This won't wash. YOU stated there CAN be no water on moon for lack of a rift valley.

YOU will have to substantiate that claim. Van Rijn's suggestion that water from comet impacts on the South Lunar pole could have survived is a fairly standard and often-heard hypothesis which was not disproved by the impact experiment of Lunar Prospector (that was only unsuccessful under suboptimal conditionsl, which happens).

Besides, the Jupiter argument is useless. Jupiter is a gas giant, and the notion of Jupiter having rift valleys is patently nonsense. It's like saying "our Sun cant't have water because there are no rift valleys on it. And, did SOHO find rift valleys? Did it find water? No? You see, that's why I am right".

Some substance, please. (Preferably in a form that most members on this forum can come by and understand).

[sun45114]

Rift valley should be “the Garden of Eden” for living things, should be the expert “component” that bred life in Earth. Life must come from rift valleys. The demonstrations as following would be too numerous to mention:

l Organisms emerged firstly in East African Rift Valleys —— Aids Virus (Zaire and Uganda) [27], West Nile Virus (Egypt) [28], Rift Fever (Kenya) [29], Ebola Bleeding Fever (Zaire) [30], Callichthyidae of new species (Lake of Victoria) [31], ShiShi Fly (east Africa) [32], zebra (east Africa) [32], Humans in every his development stages except Sivapithecus and Australopithecus [10] including the oldest tools [33], the earliest epigraphs [34] and the most original alphabet characters [35] even the most ancient human’s remains died by cancer [36]. In addition, the ordinary media also reported that there were many birthplaces of species in East African Rift Valleys as follows: Lean-dead Virus (Uganda), coffee (Ethiopia), white crow (Tanzania), short elephant (east Africa), whale having legs (Egypt), blind fly and wiggler fly (Egypt and Uganda); furthermore, the earliest humans’ cook stove, cheeses, “source signal ”, write material and the first archaic cities having 9 thousand years.

l Organisms emerged firstly in Aden Rift Valley —— the oldest terrestrial plant (Oman) [37], monitor of new species (Yemen) [38]. Besides, the ordinary media reported that there were many birthplaces of species in Aden Rifts as follows: forest (Saudi Arabia), mammoth (Oman).

l Organisms emerged firstly in Jordan Rift Valley —— the oldest hieroglyph [39], clay brick and crockery [40], village [40], memento [40], factitious plant and domestic animal [40], menu [41], the source of three main religions [42] and the West civilization [43] even the primary colonial movement [40] all originated there. Furthermore, the ordinary media reported that the earliest language and the most ancient zymotechnics of beer were all found in Jordan Rift Valley.

l Organisms emerged firstly in West Rift Valley of Northern America —— calcified ultramicroplankton (west basin in Northern America) [44], green gene (Idaho [45]), the oldest DNA record (Idaho) [46], tadpoles having eight back legs (California) [47], dinosaur (Arizona) [48] and its embryo (Utah) [49], fish living boiling spring (Nevada) [50], turkey (Texas) [51], bird (Texas) [52], horse (Wyoming) [53], Mammal (Arizona and New Mexico) [54,55], Mammal having placenta (Montana) [56], Primate (Wyoming) [57], Indian (for details, see Chapter Ⅲ) [58,59], lentoid oily biogenic reef [60] and scorpion in seawater (British Columbia of Canada) [61].

l Organisms emerged firstly in East Triassic Rift Valley of Northern America —— star rat (eastern area in Northern America) [62], hexapodus arthropod (Pennsylvania) [63], Mammal having murderous teeth (Virginia) [64] and Docodonta elephant (New York State) [65]. Besides, the ordinary media reported that the oldest digestive germ (Ohio) and insect (New York State) were found there.

l Organisms emerged firstly in West Rift Valley of Southern America ——potato(Peru) [66*],one of the oldest dinosaurs [67] (Chile), Temuco dinosaur [68] (Chile), alpaca and vicuna (Andes Mountain) [69], edentate (Argentina) [70], Callicebus bernhardi and Callicebus stephennashi (Andes Mountain) [71]. Moreover, the ordinary media reported that the oldest cotton was in Peru and the existent oldest forest is in Chile.

l Organisms emerged firstly in Baikal Rift Valley —— rare new species that the female fish propagates directly its fries (Lake of Baikal) [72]. Lake of Baikal that locates in Baikal Rift Valley is called as Russia’s Galapagos, which might have the most abundant species in the world: over 1 000 kinds of hydrophytes, 56 kinds of fishes, over 300 kinds of protozoon and a lot of unstudied intact communities. Of which, Baikal planaria that a kind of colorized worms as long as 30 centimeters and a kind of seals that only can live in fresh water [73] might be the most characteristic.

l Organisms emerged firstly in Panxi Rift Valleys —— angiosperm (Yunnan Province in China) [74], dry-heat-valley plants (Yuanmou Valley) [75], blind bullhead (Gejiu city, Yunnan Province) [76], three-bevel beast (Zigong city, Sichuan Province) [77], the oldest fossil of dinosaur’s skin (Zigong city, Sichuan Province) [78], panda (Lufeng county, Yunnan Province ) [79,80], new kind of rabbits (the boundary between Laos and Viet Nam) [81]，vertebrate (Yunnan Province) [82], Ramapithecus (for details, see Chapter Ⅲ) [83], Chengjiang Biocenosis which was called as one of the most breathtaking discovers in the 20th century and an irrefutable evidence of Cambrian Life Explosion 500～600 million years ago (Chengjiang county, Yunnan Province) [84], and Fuxianhuiaprotensa (Fig. 1-7) [85] found in Chengjiang county of Panxi Rift Valley, which was the ancestor of insects. Moreover, the ordinary media reported that the birthplaces of the following species were found in Panxi Rift Valleys: sea lily (8 genera and 39 species) in west Yunnan province, flaring birds (Jinfushan Mountain between Sichuan and Guizhou Provinces), bamboo (the central and southern parts of Yunnan Province) and antelopeoid “ox” (the boundary between Laos and Viet Nam).

l Organisms emerged firstly in Galapagos oceanic ridge —— 250 kinds of distinctive high plants (Galapagos Islands) [86], sea lizard (Galapagos Islands) [86], chameleonic fish (Galapagos Islands) [87], and a seabed worm Vestimentiferen which is the 3rd known illustration that could form a new phylum (Galapagos oceanic ridge) [88].

l Organisms emerged firstly in hydrothermal vents of oceanic ridges — sulphurvorous Monera — Palæo-bacterium [89].

…

Tianxi Sun
Professorial Senior Engineer
P. R. of China
sun45114@yahoo.com.cn

[aurora]

You are not proposing that native Americans arose because of a rift in North America, are you?

[sun45114]

Dear aurora:

As almost everyone knows, Archaeologists and Anthropologists usually consider that the remote ancestors of the Red Indian entered America from Asia through the Bering Straits 15,000-20,000 years ago, no matter how by boat across the Bering Sea or by foot through a so-called land bridge which it's said once linked up Asia and north America.

However, I considered that the classical theory above should be wrong.

I proposed a new another hypotheses that the American Indian should be originated from the Rift Valleys of America, based on the principles of Rift Evolutionism(see Chapter III), proved from 6 fields, just as mentioned TABLE OF CONTENTS by #11.

Sincerely yours,

Tianxi Sun
Professorial Senior Engineer
P. R. of China
sun45114@yahoo.com.cn

[Lianachan]

Thread moved from Astronomy to Space Exploration.

This thread is shaping up to be quite ATM....

[Van Rijn]

One would suspect. Although I'm not sure if most of this is even ATM astronomy. Of course, we have that too, with the water claims about the moon. And, Jupiter does have water, it has been detected. Not that I understand the relevance of a gas giant to the moon or rift valleys.

[sun45114]

Dear aurora:

As almost everyone knows, Archaeologists and Anthropologists usually consider that the remote ancestors of the Red Indian entered America from Asia through the Bering Straits 15,000-20,000 years ago, no matter how by boat across the Bering Sea or by foot through a so-called land bridge which it's said once linked up Asia and north America.

However, I considered that the classical theory above should be wrong.

I proposed a new another hypotheses that the American Indian should be originated from the Rift Valleys of America, based on the principles of Rift Evolutionism(see Chapter III), proved from 6 fields, just as mentioned TABLE OF CONTENTS by #11.

Sincerely yours,

Tianxi Sun
Professorial Senior Engineer
P. R. of China
sun45114@yahoo.com.cn

[Van Rijn]

I proposed a new another hypotheses that the American Indian should be originated from the Rift Valleys of America, based on the principles of Rift Evolutionism(see Chapter III), proved from 6 fields, just as mentioned TABLE OF CONTENTS by #11.

So are you suggesting that American Indians evolved separately from other humans or perhaps arose spontaneously from rift valleys? From many lines of evidence this would seem to be quite impossible.