Hacked satellites - do you see the results ?

[Gillianren]

No...I'm not going to make a joke...but I'm "thinking" of some doozys.

Likewise, I assure you. (In fact, probably some of the same ones . . . .)

[SolusLupus]

Likewise, I assure you. (In fact, probably some of the same ones . . . .)

Great minds think alike, I think

[tofu]

I'm sorry to keep spamming this thread, but this guy just cracks me up. Take a look at this:

http://ccgi.zx81.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

That is a forum dedicated to discussion of the ZX81 computer. Ever heard of the ZX81? Yeah me neither. That forum doesn't get a whole lot of traffic. One of the subforums is named "Development" and is described as, " What are your pet hates when developing software? No "vi" versus "emacs" debates here please "

Guess who is the only person to have posted there? CANSOUTH!!

(is it wrong that I find this so hilarious??)

[SolusLupus]

Dang, this guy is thorough.

[Nicolas]

Does he really think his made up theory is that good?

[cansouth]

Good to know the evidence is so solid!

I was hoping some of you could see the increase in the mentioned hand movements. If some of you do, then the police and governments might take it more seriously then they do now.

Five students on 24 years have control over a satelite.

That was wrong. But that was also changed in the same thread some pages later:

The identification of the hacker is probably wrong.
It seems to be only two persons, instead of five.

1: The hacker: Slim, with carismatic eyes, kind of natural "silver hair", the hair is a little bit long, he uses dungaree trousers, 180 cm (?) tall.

2. His friend: Blond, normal looking, 175 cm(?)., not slim, not fat. Probably he was at the airport in Berlin in Germany in June 2005.

Both of these two were at the police station of Policia de Madrid San Blas in Madrid in Spain in June 2005.

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/show...5&pagenumber=5

They are probably only two persons. One hacker and his friend.

The hacker who makes people blink more then normal, probably has plans to make Bush, Rumsfeld and Myers tell the truth about 11. september 2001, and the war in Iraq. Maybe they will tell the truth on Sunday.

That was not correct because somebody lied. I was not the one who lied. The hacker can make them tell the thruth if he wants. Like he made Bush write this note:

September 15, 2005
http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/pic...,228604,00.jpg

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...781796,00.html
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ur...cle1115556.ece

Note that it happened after 6. of June 2005


You here in the forum are not especially useful until you observe some of the effects which is caused by the illegal satellite beams, and report it to the police or governments. Maybe I know less about satellites then you do, but the hacker knows more about satellites then all of you do together. Discussing if it is possible to do what the hacker already does, is not especial interesting for me.



Interpol
President Jackie Selebi
Secretary General Ronald K. Noble
http://www.interpol.net/

The Swedish government
Prime minister Goeran Persson
http://www.regeringen.se/

The Norwegian government
Prime minister Jens Stoltenberg
http://www.odin.no/

The Spanish government
Prime minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero
http://www.la-moncloa.es/default.htm

These governments have probably enough knowledge about the case to find the hacker if they try. But first they have to believe that something is wrong. So the best you could do is to try to observe the increse in the hand movements, eye blinking and the staccato movements.

[tofu]

omg, did I summon him back to BAUT? I feel dirty now. Sorry guys.

[Kesh]

Y'know, I was half curious to read the entire thread just to see what the heck this was about.

Until he mentioned 'illegal satellite beams' and hackers 'making people blink.'

[SolusLupus]

Okay. It's official. Cansouth is trying to pull people's legs. There's no way he can be serious.

Cansouth, you have my admiration for being so willing to stand behind such a ... ridiculous story for the purpose of satire or whatever.

Please stop now.

I had a ton of other things to say, but they'd all get me banned.

[Nicolas]

I was hoping some of you could see the increase in the mentioned hand movements. If some of you do, then the police and governments might take it more seriously then they do now.

You here in the forum are not especially useful until you observe some of the effects which is caused by the illegal satellite beams, and report it to the police or governments. Maybe I know less about satellites then you do, but the hacker knows more about satellites then all of you do together. Discussing if it is possible to do what the hacker already does, is not especial interesting for me.

But first they have to believe that something is wrong. So the best you could do is to try to observe the increse in the hand movements, eye blinking and the staccato movements.

Red part: it seems not to be the case as your claimed hacker does impossible things with satellites, but if it is the truth: please give evidence for that. Note that this forum has multiple members who actually work for the space agencies so you're not in kindergarten here. Many people here are not making things up, but have actually worked on designing, building and testing satellites or using them in operational life. You might have never given it a thought, but some people out there actually are "rocket scientists". And there is a more than average concentration of them overhere.

Underlined part: It is obvious that you try to persuade as many people as possible to make themselves believe that indeed they see more of these moevements than ususal, and are naive enough to talk about it with official organs. Why else would you flood the internet with your theory? Yet you come up with no evidence, you contradict yourself, you talk about "others" while the only source is yourself etcetc.

Bold part: in that case you have picked the wrong internet forum here! As far as I know, the rules of this board demand that you can back up your claims (using the word "already" in that bold sentence is no proof of anything!) and take notice when you are proven wrong. We have proven you wrong on the technical possibilies of satellites (which are known to some members here, whether you like it or not) and the limitations of knowledge which are WAY underneath what you imply in your theory about controlling the mind, and even further away from READING the mind. It is possible for one person to be a bit beyond the others in one pint of science, but not to be leaping ahead the way you describe it. What you attirubute to him is like hovering around on an antigravity toy in your self-restoring biosuit on the moon, offering coffee from a one-crystal nanotube cup to Mr Armstrong when he landed. If you choose not to take notice of these points or back up any of your claims, I think you have no reasons to stay on this board.

But it appears you have already noticed that the internet is full of boards where you can try to scare people and make fools of themselves at the local authorities.

[Nicolas]

I had a ton of other things to say, but they'd all get me banned.

I said them

[Nicolas]

On the note:

Oh no!! I notice the effects too! Today I felt a strong urge to go to the bathroom. Note that it happened after 6. of June 2005.

[cansouth]

If you cannot offer anything substantive to back up your assertions,

I have at least this:

1. The photos from the court in the trial against Saddam Hussein. Yes, they are only still-photos and does not show the exact frequency of how often such hand movements occure, or have increased. But there are surprisingly many such hand movements photos from the trial.

2. The note which Bush wrote the 14. September 2005. At least Reuters and two newspapers found that note writing interesting. That note writing is an example of mind control done by the satellite hacker.

[cansouth]

But it appears you have already noticed that the internet is full of boards where you can try to scare people and make fools of themselves at the local authorities.

I am not that evil.

[Musashi]

I have at least this:

1. The photos from the court in the trial against Saddam Hussein. Yes, they are only still-photos and does not show the exact frequency of how often such hand movements occure, or have increased. But there are surprisingly many such hand movements photos from the trial.

2. The note which Bush wrote the 14. September 2005. At least Reuters and two newspapers found that note writing interesting. That note writing is an example of mind control done by the satellite hacker.

Maybe Bush had to go to the bathroom? Maybe?

[Nicolas]

That note is an example of nature's call and if you want to stretch it of a general fashion trend to laugh at George W Bush.

Those photos prove nothing as no frequency can be read from them, and moreover no reference frequency is given. How can you speak about "suprisingly many" without reference? This ain't chitchat, you're proposing a major conspiracy theory so you need solid evidience.

[Musashi]

Let me ask you a question cansouth. Are you asserting that this has already taken place or asking if it could be done? From what you have written it seems obvious to me that you are saying it has been done and further, are not interested in discussing the hows involved. Would that be a fair statement?

[Nicolas]

I am not that evil.

So in that case you're feeling very responsible by alarming the whole world for this conspiracy, but suddenly feel no responsibility about falsely spreading panic when your theory is proven wrong? That behaviour might not be evil, but it certainly is dishonest. By ignoring people proving you wrong here you break board rules and you deliberately spread lies possibly causing panic.

I feel you have been proven wrong enough to at least withdraw any claims until you have further investigated the issue.

[SolusLupus]

So in that case you're feeling very responsible by alarming the whole world for this conspiracy, but suddenly feel no responsibility about falsely spreading panic when your theory is proven wrong? That behaviour might not be evil, but it certainly is dishonest. By ignoring people proving you wrong here you break board rules and you deliberately spread lies possibly causing panic.

I feel you have been proven wrong enough to at least withdraw any claims until you have further investigated the issue.

Exactly. Listen to the man, Cansouth.

[Van Rijn]

That is a forum dedicated to discussion of the ZX81 computer. Ever heard of the ZX81? Yeah me neither. That forum doesn't get a whole lot of traffic. One of the subforums is named "Development" and is described as, " What are your pet hates when developing software? No "vi" versus "emacs" debates here please "

Huh? Of course I've heard of it! AKA the the Sinclair 1000. Horrible keyboard, never used one myself, but it became well known in the early '80s as a low cost computer. I can't imagine why anyone would touch one today, though I occasionally use an Apple II emulator, so I shouldn't talk.

[cansouth]

Those photos prove nothing as no frequency can be read from them, and moreover no reference frequency is given. How can you speak about "suprisingly many" without reference?

I had more photos, but they were in slide shows, so they have disappeared as you can see here:
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/fo...39&whichpage=1

Around seven photos have disappeared.

[Nicolas]

Maybe more photos from that trial, but still no reference, no frequency. I've explained in my quoted post that you need a reference and you keep on going into the same referenceless (that's a word from now on ) photos.

It are just some photos in which some people happen to touch their face. What a miracle. They're tired, nervous, there might be flies or something, maybe their beard itches.

Anyway you've been asked many times to seriously back up your claims by references of sufficient quantity showing frequencies of said movements before and after the hack. You still have not posted it, nor have you taken into account any refutals of your theory.

Until that changes, I will not go into the same thing over and over again, especially as I feel you're breaking board rules with your behaviour.

[cansouth]

Are you asserting that this has already taken place or asking if it could be done?

It is taking place right now.

By ignoring people proving you wrong here you break board rules and you deliberately spread lies possibly causing panic.

I am not proved wrong. You put yourself in to complicated theoretical high technology discussion, and make the wrong conclusions.

[SolusLupus]

I am not proved wrong. You put yourself in to complicated theoretical high technology discussion, and make the wrong conclusions.

Says you. From what I've seen, based on your arguments and "evidence", you certainly aren't one to come up with any conclusions at all. You certainly haven't come up with any good ones yet.

You're also in an act of mass-spamming several boards with this ... conjecture, to mention it lightly. It is a tasteless action.

[cansouth]

The note President Bush wrote about visiting the bathroom, was written the 14. of September 2005. Three days after 11. september. He wrote it in United Nations during a Security Council meeting in New York. In the same organisation which Colin Powell argued for going to war against Iraq.

http://www.back-to-iraq.com/archives...05powell.7.jpg

[Van Rijn]

1. The photos from the court in the trial against Saddam Hussein. Yes, they are only still-photos and does not show the exact frequency of how often such hand movements occure, or have increased. But there are surprisingly many such hand movements photos from the trial.

You can't prove anything with these photos. There is no basis for comparison to determine if his behavior has changed, but even if it has what would it prove? I'd think he would be under just a bit of stress these days. If you wanted to argue for a conspiracy that was at least possible you could suggest mood altering drugs.

2. The note which Bush wrote the 14. September 2005. At least Reuters and two newspapers found that note writing interesting. That note writing is an example of mind control done by the satellite hacker.

How? I simply cannot follow how that note would even begin to suggest any such thing.

You have this backwards: First you have to show how such a thing is possible, then show that there is verifiable evidence for it. You have just decided it is all real and declared certain things to be evidence to support it.

[Nicolas]

I am not proved wrong. You put yourself in to complicated theoretical high technology discussion, and make the wrong conclusions.

Looking at the possibilities of satellites is not theoretical.

To me, it is not "too complicated". I have studied both aerospace engineering and biomechanics, which are EXACTLY those 2 fields involved in your theory.

That's the risk of spreading your theory everywhere, you might actually meet people who know more about these things than you do. I'm sure Im not the only one on this board. As it is astronomy related, you too could have guessed that there were people with experience in satellites here.

Another thing about "too complicated": in order to read the mind with a satellite, the mind needs to transmit a signal to the satellite. Can the mind do this? NO. Not complicated at all! And to help your theory we've even talked about reflecting like radar (in which the interaction of the radar signal and the brain would make brain activity modulated into the radar signal, but I won't go into that as it will be "too complicated"), but the currect resolution is such that a whole brain would be 1 data unit (pixel if you're talking graphics) at the very best. Try reading the mind from that, it's worse than reading a thick book without being able to open it. Again, not complicated stuff but proving your theory wrong nonetheless!

The theory you described does not stand up to reality, and in fact we have proven more than once that even altering the theory does not make it realistic.

[Van Rijn]

The note President Bush wrote about visiting the bathroom, was written the 14. of September 2005. Three days after 11. september. He wrote it in United Nations during a Security Council meeting in New York. In the same organisation which Colin Powell argued for going to war against Iraq.

Your point being? Again, I have no idea what this has to do with your argument.

[Nicolas]

It works like this:

You take a number of X significant dates from the past. Out of Y significant current events, you pick those within Z days from an entry X. With nicely chosen values X, Y and Z, you certainly have significant events close to significant dates for every year.

Mr Bush going to the loo is the significant event here.

[cansouth]

Your point being? Again, I have no idea what this has to do with your argument.

It is about mind control over President Bush. Iraq did not have any weaopon of mass destruction. The war in Iraq is to make a larger Israel.
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/images/ACF755.gif

You can also see here:
http://www.geocities.com/hackedsatel...thehacker.html