Bosnian Pyramid

[NEOWatcher]

What about all the other purple and blue areas? Do they have stone constructions under them too?

i dot know a just posted what the man who photografed this image said , he worked whit NASA
i dont think so purple and blue areas are stone constructions

Are we assuming that stone cannot occur naturally?
I was under the impression that some hills and mountains are the result of ground and rock being pushed up from below. I guess that can't happen, and the himalayas are just piles of dirt.

[Nicolas]

We have clear pictures from the hill (or pyramid) but VERY little pixels are dedicated to the hundreds of meters of tunnels, who should be more proof than anything else. Why? And one flat stone does not show manmade stairs. Where's the proof this is a manmade (shaped of course) stone, that there are stairs etc? The fact that it's more or less flat does not prove anything, nor does the fact that some of the hills there are shaped more or less like pyramids. Of course, they don't disprove anything either. Still waiting for the proof...

[Fram]

What intrigues me is the stone with the supposed circles or spirals on it. This stone is not shaped at all (perhaps flattened, but not squared or so), so it doesn't fit in with the rest of the story. We still have way too little information, but it still looks to me as if only the positive info is given and highlighted, and everything that disagrees with the idea of a pyramid is hidden (in text, not in reality).

[eburacum45]

The stone with circles on looks very natural to me; a thinly layered sandstone could display such a pattern just by weathering. I walk to work every day over York stone paving slabs with similar patterns of wear.
But until a proper archaeologist has a look at it (rather than this amateur Osmanagic) I would reserve judgement.

[Quantum_Raider]

Interesting ... in one of their reports they have this to say about a rock:

It was found to have circular patterns which will be analysed further; it is thought that they are man made

Looking at the picture supplied it appears to me to be the normal formation of a rock, i.e. layers of sediment laid down over time.

Picture of rock: http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/images...rclesSlabs.jpg

Report: http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/index_...Report_en.html

hmmm ... state that it's a pyramid, then find the proof ... good science in anyone's book

Just to balance out the "facts" of the pryamid, have a look at his site on the Maya: http://www.alternativnahistorija.com/WM.htm

[Halcyon Dayz]

Seen stuf like that before all to often.

(thanx fram)

[Nicolas]

If that circular rock thingy is man made, than there must have been a worldwide advanced civilisation of billions of people in the past, all of them putting layers -I'm sorry, circles- in the rocks...

Instead of making a nice picture of an ordinary rock, why doesn't he show a man standing somewhere inside that hundreds of meters of tunnel systems he explored? It does not catch on film?

[Fram]

If he has done some real archeologicaldiscovery, I shiver to think what damage is done already to it. This picture doesn't give me the idea that the work has been done very carefully and accurately...

Oh, and a fourth pyramid (The dragon, after Sun, Moon and Earth) is "found".

[Nicolas]

Somebody tell the man there is a mountain ridge there, before he starts excavating 30 pyramids.

[Fram]

But then the foundation, of which he is the chairman, wouldn't get any funds!

[Fram]

From BosnianPyramids.org:

c) It is determined that there is a presence of straight cut tiles with high percent of iron which gives them red color. On them there are decorative circles which indicate their ornamental function. Also, these tiles cause magnetic interference.

So according to Mr. Osmanagic, the tile with the circles is straight cut... This is what I meant when I said that he only sees what he wants to see, apparently.
The "Pyramid of the Sun" is the location of a medieval city of some importance (located at the top). Perhaps the tunnels and so on have more to do with that than with a Paleolithic culture? It isn't really unusual to have medieval tunnels (not to mention medieval mines).

From this pic, it doesn't look as if the Sun pyramid has even four sides...

[Nicolas]

You can see that it is almost exactly lined up with the magnetic compass...

Please let some professional archealogists check out the hill. That way they can find (in an acceptable way) whatever remains from any medieval (or older) settlement, and determine whether the hill features anything worth noticing inside.

[Fram]

^^^
What he said

[Black Mamba]

If he has done some real archeologicaldiscovery, I shiver to think what damage is done already to it. This picture doesn't give me the idea that the work has been done very carefully and accurately...

Oh, and a fourth pyramid (The dragon, after Sun, Moon and Earth) is "found".

FRAM dont worry, i can see that you dont know wht has happen here

i know almost everything about this

the truth is when this happen when a local man who lived under the hill on the hill i dont know, tried to build new house , when he started to dig, he dug up this stones, but when osmanagich saw this he took this stones to moseum, and he said to bosnian politician to make this area of natinal intrest , so people can not dig and build things on this area

my english is catastrofy i am sorry people , but i do my best


what said most popular archeologist in the world about bosnian pyramid

Prof. dr. R. Bruce Hitchner,

http://ase.tufts.edu/classics/facult...chner/img1.jpg

i have studied carefully this evidence about bosnian pyramid , i can say that this is maybe old Roman graveyard building (something like that he said)


Zahi hawas

http://www.jp-petit.com/EGYPTOLOGIE/...zahi_hawas.gif

It is posibble that there is pyramids in Bosnia.....



from

www.bosnianpyramid.com


The Terra satellite, which has been orbiting Earth since

1999 as a joint project between US Nasa and the Japanese

Government, has been revealing further evidence of

pyramids in what is now referred to as

Bosnia’s Valley of Pyramids, near Visoko. (see image)





Archaeological Park: Bosnia Pyramid of the Sun

(the official Foundation for the archaeological site) analysed the data from the satellite thermal imaging and concluded that all four hills present anomalies inconsistent with natural landscapes.

Thermal imaging detects new pyramids

[Nicolas]

"maybe, possibly, possible" but where's the evidence? That stone with "circles"? Or the mini pictures showing next to nothing? The hills that look a bit like a pyramid (hey! a pyramid accidentally happens to look a bit like a hill as well!) and that are a bit almost lined up to the compass? Without evidence, "possible" will always remain "possible".

I hope they indeed do attract professional archealogists. The existence of a Foundation an sich is a garantee for nothing. Remember that there are multiple Foundations that arrange visits to "the" resting place of Noah's ship.

And while digging for the possible pyramid I hope they do not forget to do some professional archeology on the surface of the hill - there were most chances of finding things of archeological importance are. A settlement on a hill does not imply a pyramid, and on the other hand it would be more than a pity if they'd destroy an archeological site by searching for a pyramid underneath it. Oh and I hope they do bring a camera capable of creating more than thumbnails .

[Nicolas]

I see they now have put larger photos online. Wheeeeee! I'll check them out.

[Nicolas]

THe website remains inconsistent. They are not sure there are pyramids, next page there are 4 possibly pyramids, next page there are 3 pyramids found...

[Black Mamba]

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6...alpiram4bg.jpg

The Terra satellite, which has been orbiting Earth since

1999 as a joint project between US Nasa and the Japanese

Government, has been revealing further evidence of

pyramids in what is now referred to as

Bosnia’s Valley of Pyramids, near Visoko. (see image)





Archaeological Park: Bosnia Pyramid of the Sun

(the official Foundation for the archaeological site) analysed the data from the satellite thermal imaging and concluded that all four hills present anomalies inconsistent with natural landscapes.

Thermal imaging detects new pyramids

[Nicolas]

From what I've seen, it is very well possible that a settlement did exist on that hill. That does not give clues about the hill actually being a man made pyramid. The "entrance stairs" might as well be a sort of main street leading up to the highest point of the settlement.

Let's hope Mr Osmanagic does not simply want to find pyramids like the ones he saw all over the world, and will dig up and place stones until he has restored a pyramid where there never was one...

If there actually was a settlement with such a large staired pathway and some tunneling, that would be very interesting in it's own right. Let's hope they don't simply drop the site if it should become clear that there was no pyramid there, unless they also showed there was no settlement worth noticing there.

[Titana]

I dont know why but i kind a doubt the existance of a pyramid. I think that the findings will prove to be much more recent then suggested and just it might turn out to be some kind a natural hill into which tombs or something may have been built...


I quess we will just have to wait for more proof.........

(The pics dont convince me either)


Titana.

[Nicolas]

Somebody that eager to find a pyramid might call a natural hill with tombs inside a pyramid anyway...

One thing is clear and that is that this "conclusion before the evidence" unclear website approach does not work. Pyramids or not.

[Titana]

I agree........



Titana.

[Fram]

the truth is when this happen when a local man who lived under the hill on the hill i dont know, tried to build new house , when he started to dig, he dug up this stones, but when osmanagich saw this he took this stones to moseum, and he said to bosnian politician to make this area of natinal intrest , so people can not dig and build things on this area

I thought it was already of national interest because of the medieval village on top?

my english is catastrofy i am sorry people , but i do my best


what said most popular archeologist in the world about bosnian pyramid

Prof. dr. R. Bruce Hitchner,

http://ase.tufts.edu/classics/facult...chner/img1.jpg

i have studied carefully this evidence about bosnian pyramid , i can say that this is maybe old Roman graveyard building (something like that he said)


Zahi hawas

http://www.jp-petit.com/EGYPTOLOGIE/...zahi_hawas.gif

It is posibble that there is pyramids in Bosnia.....

Any source for these two quotes? I can't find anything on the Internet... I have no idea if Dr. Hitchner is the most popular archaeologist in the world either, but that is irrelevant.

[ToSeek]

Black Mamba, I've done some editing to fix potential rules violations on this forum, specifically:

- Don't link directly to images hosted on another website.
- Don't quote entire pages from another website, quote an excerpt and provide a link

The latter is a copyright violation and could subject us to legal action; the former is just impolite. Your specific instances are fairly minor and might not be an issue, but I prefer not to take chances. Thanks.

[aucklander]

You can read the newest interview with Mr. Osmanagic, the guy who discovered pyramids, at http://www.bosnianpyramids.org/

[Fram]

Thanks, Aucklander.
A few first reactions.

Before that Peruvian cultures were the focus of my interest or even the pyramid of power on the planet...

Let's hope this is a bad translation. The pyramid of power on the planet?

Visoko valley will have an official geographic name in a few years: Bosnian valley of pyramids.

How does he know that? He is rather full of himself sometimes...

The following year, 2007, will be marked by the astonishment of the world public how such colossal monuments could have been made before the end of the last Ice age.

There's more about this...

For now we have two very important indicators that pyramids were under water for several hundred years. Only such occurrence can be related to the melting of the ice at the end of the last Ice age 12.000 years ago. In other words, pyramids existed then already.

And:

Regarding the age, there is more and more evidence that the main pyramid complex were built right before the end of the last Ice age, indicating that there was world wide plan for building these monuments.

So, the pyramids are very old, have been under water, and are part of a worldwide plan...
This man is clearly unqualified for the excavations he's doing and the conclusions he draws from them. I have no idea what he has found, we have way too little information to decide that, but his conclusions are preposterous and are based on what he wants to find, not on any reality.
This comment makes me fear the worst:

In October of 2005 I continued my excavation on my own with wide digs, so-called probing (excavation) wells, which showed the structure of the walls of the pyramid, access plateau and the pyramid design.

So the only real dig that has been done yet, he did on his own? And he is the one asking that this would become a region of national interest so others can't do no damage?
Until some independent archaeologists have done their own research, I don't believe anything Mr. Osmanagic claims anymore...

[Nicolas]

My fear that he will dig up stones and place them until he has restored pyramids where there never were before gets stronger. So does my fear that any archeology of possible settlements on the hills will be lost due to trying to fit it with the pyramid hypothesis. Looking at the pictures of his jobs with aztec pyramids and the like, there he made nice restorations, but the shape was really clear beforehand. Half a wall and loose bricks can be restored into a complete wall, a hill into a pyramid is a bit tough if there was no pyramid.

There are so many inconsistent things. There are the stories of children going into one tunnel and coming out of a tunnel on another pyramid. Quite easy to check I would think. Take a camera with you and do the job => result funding and attention. Claiming you explored 100m of tunnels and showing about 1m (I think, there is no scale reference) is a bit strange. Of course that can be explained because Mr. Osmanagic simply doesn't want the honour and attention but wants to do archeology...ummm....

[captain swoop]

As for that slab, I live under the Escarpment of the Cleveland Hills there are entire rock faces composed of banded sandstone that look exactly like that slab, they certainly haven't been worked

[Titana]

Hummm...i am kind of of confused here. I see that the Bosnian "pyramid" is being considered the first pyramid found in Europe. I did a little investigation on that and came up with this....

http://www.crystalinks.com/pyrgreece.html



There is supposedly an existence of more then 16 pyramids all over Greece.
Some of which date before those found in Egypt.....




Titana.

[Nicolas]

As far as I know that's correct, there have been multiple pyramids (not huge ones, but pyramids nonetheless) found in Europe. Of course, being 26000 years old the Bosnian pyramids would be the first pyramids in Europe. Not the first ones found though. Maybe it's a translation thing, where he said "oldest found". I don't know.