on the Moon Man

[tofu]

As I write this, Moon Man has just stated (over in the conspiracy theory forum) that he is drunk. He then asked where the "alleged vacuum" around the moon ends and asked why space ships don't create sonic booms.

With this, it became crystal clear to me that he was a troll. Everybody, even 5 year old children, know that there is no air in space. The only reason for a person to suggest otherwise is to troll. Toseek correctly identified him as such and banned him, and I really regret that I didn't accept toseek's judgment. I feel a little bit guilty about it.

[SolusLupus]

I invite the Moon Man to list his credentials here. He claimed to be a lawyer. I'm tired of dancing around, and want him to put his money where his mouth is.

I do not believe that he is a lawyer. However, that has nothing to do with me calling him out. Moon Man: Please list your practice (if you have one), what college you graduated from, and also list out the law that you supposedly "set". Also, in regards to that groundbreaking case, please list the judge presiding and the lawyer you competed against, as well as what that particular case was about.

[Frog march]

some people can think better when they are drunk.

edit- if they are onto something anyway

[Moon Man]

I invite the Moon Man to list his credentials here. He claimed to be a lawyer. I'm tired of dancing around, and want him to put his money where his mouth is.

I do not believe that he is a lawyer. However, that has nothing to do with me calling him out. Moon Man: Please list your practice (if you have one), what college you graduated from, and also list out the law that you supposedly "set". Also, in regards to that groundbreaking case, please list the judge presiding and the lawyer you competed against, as well as what that particular case was about.

I'm not listing anything because you demand it. The landmark case was a jurisdictional question answered by the Surpreme Court of Canada. I did not orally present the case I only provided the successful argument. I also never claimed to be a barred lawyer, you all came up with that. I do legal work though and have been called the lunchbox lawyer by my boss, meaning I carry a lunch to to work and do legal work on the side. I have never lost a case I've taken on. You don't have to be a lawyer in Canada to represent people, you can act as agent or even represent yourself. You cannot however recover costs if you do so.

I challenge all of you posting in the moon thread to list your credentials in the moon thread. Please also list how many times you've been to space..?

If you have a labour, trademark or Internet law question then feel free to post it. I also do appeal work and can give other general law questions an answer. I am in Canada and do not know if American law is different so my answers will apply to the way a case would be ruled on in Canada. I do not do criminal law so don't ask a criminal law question. I also will not spend much time investigating and answering your questions unless they are extremely intersting.

[jojo180]

I think he has accomplished what he set out to do and that was to get people angry and irritated even to the point of creating a new forum dedicated to him

[SolusLupus]

...a new forum dedicated to him

A new thread, I think is what you meant

I also will not spend much time investigating and answering your questions.

Which pretty much describes the majority of all that you have done. You make a ton of questions, but ignore the majority asked of you.

I challenge all of you posting in the moon thread to list your credentials in the moon thread. Please also list how many times you've been to space..?

Well, personally, I'm a college student at Del Mar. I'm a Freshman, and just starting out with Liberal Arts. I never pretended to be an expert, I just call out bullcrap when I see it.

How many times have you been to space? From the sounds of it, you sound like you're good at claiming what is and isn't when it comes to space, which seems to fly in the face of actual experts...

[Moon Man]

A new thread, I think is what you meant



Which pretty much describes the majority of all that you have done. You make a ton of questions, but ignore the majority asked of you.



Well, personally, I'm a college student at Del Mar. I'm a Freshman, and just starting out with Liberal Arts. I never pretended to be an expert, I just call out bullcrap when I see it.

How many times have you been to space? From the sounds of it, you sound like you're good at claiming what is and isn't when it comes to space, which seems to fly in the face of actual experts...

Good luck with your schooling and subsequent career. There are way too many people asking questions in the moon thread that I can't keep up.

[SolusLupus]

I find it amusing to watch. When you titled the thread, "I will prove that the moon landings didn't happen", or however you titled it, you drew every scientist and expert in like a pack of logical pirahnas to strip dry a corpse of illogic.

It was amusing to watch. I think that the majority of it came from the title.

[Moon Man]

I knew it would draw a crowd. I didn't know people would get so upset by words on a screen. I will still post my clips of the immediate responses from the moon men to Houston, and again, the clips came from NASA's site. This alone convinces me it was a hoax. I'm going to let that thread chill out for a while though.

[TheBlackCat]

You want my qualifications? I am a biomedical engineering PhD student. I have 3 semesters of physics for physics students, 1 semester of mechanics of solids, 2 semesters of circuit theory, 1 semester of materials science, 1 semester of transport theory (includes fluid, solid, and thermal transport), 1 semester of optics, 4 semester of computer programming (C++, Fortan, LabView, and Matlab), 1 semester of signal processing, 3 semester of college calculus, 1 semester of differential equations, 2 semester of college-level chemistry, 2 semester of organic chemistry, 2 semester of biochemistry and molecular biology, 1 semester of basic engineering business (intro to engineering 1), 1 semester of introductory economics, and 2 semester of intermediate economics, among many other things.

[Moon Man]

And you can't follow simple instructions. I requested you post it in the moon thread and not here. Just kidding you! There are many smart people in the moon thread evidenced by their responses. You're one of them. Good luck with your career Black cat!

[paulie jay]

I'm not listing anything because you demand it. The landmark case was a jurisdictional question answered by the Surpreme Court of Canada. I did not orally present the case I only provided the successful argument. I also never claimed to be a barred lawyer, you all came up with that. I do legal work though and have been called the lunchbox lawyer by my boss, meaning I carry a lunch to to work and do legal work on the side. I

So how do you explain this post?
http://www.bautforum.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=104


A good lawyer, like me.

[Musashi]

Ever seen Total Recall? I keep expecting a Benny-like confession.

Quaid: "What happened to number 5?"

Benny: "[Crap] man, you got me, I ain't even married!"

[SolusLupus]

Musashi: *laughs!* That's a good one.

However, with his track record, I doubt Moon Man could possibly admit his lies.

[Candy]

You want my qualifications? I am a biomedical engineering PhD student. I have 3 semesters of physics for physics students, 1 semester of mechanics of solids, 2 semesters of circuit theory, 1 semester of materials science, 1 semester of transport theory (includes fluid, solid, and thermal transport), 1 semester of optics, 4 semester of computer programming (C++, Fortan, LabView, and Matlab), 1 semester of signal processing, 3 semester of college calculus, 1 semester of differential equations, 2 semester of college-level chemistry, 2 semester of organic chemistry, 2 semester of biochemistry and molecular biology, 1 semester of basic engineering business (intro to engineering 1), 1 semester of introductory economics, and 2 semester of intermediate economics, among many other things.

But how many times have you been to the Moon?

[Hugh Jass]

Look some of his arguments, have made me re-vist my claim that he is just 16 and having fun. Though much of his language and debating skills speak of a 14 year old, the time frame for his posting and the sheer time involved makes me think he must be a college student. An undeclared Junior College student, but ~18-20. I think Ontario latitudinally, but my gut just says no to Canada, Michigan maybe. If MM actually ends up being a MSU student and being one of the guys behind the lion vs CMFL guys he immediatly gains my respect, unless he's they guy that is on the side of the CMFL.

Let's take a look at the reasoning of a child when it comes to making irrational claims, and the desire to be believed. First you want people to think your smart. Oh I'm a rocket scientist, oh but I might be talking to rocket scientists, hmmm what would make me be smart, but I wouldn't need to prove it because I might be sure I'm not speaking to someone who could call me on it? Got it I'll be a lawyer most people think they're smart! Now how do I get people riled up right away? I'll make some outrages claims and then call them 'retards' when they deny my claims. Doh! i'm not allowed to call them 'retards' now what do I do? I know I'll just say "it's impossible" no matter what facts they throw at me. Ok, now how do I keep them around and arguing. Well really all I have to do is go onto the BA website pull a few quotes about the moon hoax off of the debunking pages, throw those out there and give them something to refute. Plus I'll continue to say the facts they initially came here to read are coming in the next several days/weeks/MONTHS?!?!? Months are you kidding me?!?! If this keeps up for Months without a lifetime ban, I"m switching my position and getting on MM side, 'cause if manages that he's pretty cool in my book.

I just hope he's keeping statistics on this and it is somekind of project on message boards, or a bet about getting nerds all excitable, and not just for his joy alone... 'cause that would be sad.

Seriously though I haven't looked up the definition of a troll but... isn't MM pretty close to a text book case?

[Maksutov]

Hey, if John Lennon could write a song about his young child Sean (Beautiful Boy), then it appears I should be able to do likewise, in a slightly different vein, re the subject of this thread:



Good Enough for Me (The Moon Man Song)

Don't know much about history,
Don't know much biology.
Don't know much about science stuff,
Astrophysics looks pretty tough.
But I do believe Apollo's a hoax,
And unlike the rest of you clueless folks,
That belief's good enough for me.

Don't know much about geology,
Don't know much heat transfer theory.
Don't know astronautics, that's a fact.
Don't know when my computer's been hacked.
But I know that one and one is three,
And if with that NASA doesn't agree,
Then they faked the Moon landings, you see.

Now I do claim to be a real lawyer,
Though I'm not actually.
Oh, I'd much rather be your sawyer, baby,
It's a lumberjack's life for me.

Don't know much about history,
Don't know much biology.
Don't know much about science stuff,
Astrophysics looks pretty tough.
But I do believe Apollo's a hoax,
And unlike the rest of you clueless folks,
That belief's good enough for me.

------ lead guitar ------

But everything is a conspiracy,
And if with that NASA doesn't agree,
Then they faked the Moon landings, you see.


(to the melody of (What A) Wonderful World (Cooke/Alpert/Adler), as sung by Herman's Hermits)

[N C More]

Bravo Mak! "Weird Al" would approve!

[01101001]

Banned.

[Gillianren]

Admit it, Mak--the hardest part of that was rhyming "lawyer," wasn't it?

[Jeff Root]

> Admit it, Mak--the hardest part of that was rhyming "lawyer,"
> wasn't it?

The chance of my ever getting to screwer
is really in the sewer.

Oh, dear, I must be in some kind of altered mental state from
lack of food. I need to spend less time reading posts and more
time supporting my basic physiological requirements.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

[hhEb09'1]

So how do you explain this post?
http://www.bautforum.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=104


A good lawyer, like me.

To be fair, there are two ways to interpret that post. He could have meant "A good lawyer, like I am a good lawyer" or he could have meant "A good lawyer always gets the opponent to commit, as do I." Possibly, the first meaning would have had no commas around "like me"

[Gillianren]

It's my considered experience that, when a comma error will lead to misinterpretation, it will be made. However, it did strike me based on any number of comments that he intended to come across as a lawyer and only abandoned that when it became obvious that it was easy to check.

[montebianco]

To be fair, there are two ways to interpret that post. He could have meant "A good lawyer, like I am a good lawyer" or he could have meant "A good lawyer always gets the opponent to commit, as do I." Possibly, the first meaning would have had no commas around "like me"

I had this thought also. But, if he is a Canadian lawyer, a Japanese banker, or an Egyptian tailor doesn't matter much, what matters is whether he has good arguments supported by evidence.

[Nowhere Man]

I think Ontario latitudinally, but my gut just says no to Canada, Michigan maybe. If MM actually ends up being a MSU student and being one of the guys behind the lion vs CMFL guys he immediatly gains my respect, unless he's they guy that is on the side of the CMFL.

He's from somewhere where they spell "labor" with a u, so that's is definitely not the US. Even Yoopers don't spell it like that. One of the British Commonwealth countries: UK, Canada, Australia, New Zeeland, most likely. I haven't looked at his posting times to determine if he's western or eastern hemisphere, but I seem to recall that in his big thread, he was mostly active during North American daytime, so I'd say Canada.

Fred

[peter eldergill]

From near Sudbury, according to him, putting him in the same timezone as me in Toronto. His first time he claimed he was drunk was at 8:30 am according to the board time, which is an hour ahead of me....a bit odd, no?

I noticed at some other point he said he has never been called to the bar....although still claimed to be a lawyer

BTW I spell it labour, not labor. Through, not thru; neighbour, humour, colour, and probably many others. (The "word" thru really bugs me, just smacks of lazyness/fast food mentality to me)

L8R

Pete

[Gillianren]

"Thru" isn't a word, even in America. Neither is "alot" or "alright."

[peter eldergill]

How about drivethru, thruway, etc...?

Pete

[Gillianren]

How about drivethru, thruway, etc...?

They're wrong.

Now, in time, the language may shift so that "thru" is correct, gods hold back the day. And to non-etymologists, I'm sure the spelling makes more sense. However, just because language shifts doesn't mean that words aren't wrong at the point in a language's evolution in which you're using them.

[peter eldergill]

Gillian, most of my students are ESL and the spelling/grammar of these students is really bad, even after getting full credit in advanced grade 11 english.....it's frustrating but then I only know highschool french, and I'm sure I'm just as bad!

Are those types of words considered slang then? (like "peeps" LOL!)

Pete