Congratulations to SarahMc, our newest member to get 100,000 credits in E@H.
Congratulations to SarahMc, our newest member to get 100,000 credits in E@H.
Also belated congrats to The Rock and Sarah.
I'm sure it's noted somewhere on their site, but the µfluids@home project is currently at the alpha stage. I apologize for not knowing this when I posted about it.
As we all have learned with BOINC, a project being alpha means far less than it would for an ordinary Windows program, I have very rarely if ever seen the BOINC core client crash: if a project crashes, BOINC just switches to another one, or downloads a new WU. And I have definitely never seen a BOINC error so bad as to bring down Windows.
Nevertheless there may be issues with running µfluids - mainly some WUs erroring out. For more details, I've started a thread about it here on azazul's board.
I didn't realize this at the time that I mentioned it either. So far, I have had a few problems with not getting credit and some wu's creating errors. But, there has been no computer problems, BOINC has taken care of the errors on its own.
Since February, I've only returned one client error running E@H, and I'm pretty sure that was due to an unrelated crash on my machine.
I haven't had any problems that weren't related to me yanking out my HD and putting a new one in without letting BOINC finish its work unit.
EDIT: Seperate issue here, but due to the nature of these boards it is impossible to pick up an old thread and read through it (well, impossible for me). Could we maybe get a message saying "join BAUT teams for Boinc...etc" sticked and LOCKED at the top of one of these forums? Or maybe the BA and the UT guy could put a permanant link to the teams and azazul's forum on their main pages.
Sorry for the delayed reply...
I agree with both Wolverine's and gopher's experience: other than the occasional foolish move by me, or the bad disk drives I had, BOINC has run almost without ever crashing. Considering it has had by far the most CPU cycles, that is something.
It is of course up to azazul to decide if he wants to ask for these, but I think this thread (especially thanks to Wolverine for its stickiness) works pretty well. The first post is still pretty current, and directs new people to the right places, and the thread is short enough to be skimmed to see if you want to post here.Originally Posted by gopher65
There was an "above the fold" locked announcement for the BAUT forum's map for a while, is that what you are thinking of? Again, it's just my opinion, but these do take up extra space, and as with sections filled with a lot of stickies, they get very easy to ignore.
As far as the BA's and Fraser's support for the team, well how could we ask for more? They've given us privileged space here, on the best forum of its kind <suckingup>, several generous mentions in the UT newsletter, and now a sticky thread. To state the totally obvious, the team wouldn't exist without Fraser and Phil.
But the BA and UT websites, in addition to supplying top-class astro info, exist to support the whole BAUT enterprise. People need to buy those T-shirts and books they're hawking! For me, a blurb or link for a distributed computing team would probably distract from that. Just my opinion, like I say.
Oooookay...the SETI client is running, but apparently BOINC is suspended, and I don't know how to...unsuspend?...it...
I keep getting the message that the SETI client setup will cease operations on the 15th of the month. BOINC is installed (I have the little 8-ball icon down in the corner), but I haven't the foggiest notion of how to switch from SETI and make BOINC combobulate...
The results for computer, here, shows your recent results, so you have been doing seti BOINC WUs successfully, indeed you've got over 1500 credits (cobblestones) under BOINC now.
Your last WU reported was on December 1, and since about that time seti has been having major problems with its upload and download servers. I have two seti WUs that have been trying for several days to transfer. That may be what has happened to the 4 WUs shown as "In Progress" -- they've all finished crunching, but BOINC can't upload them, or DL new work for you. In all probability, this is because of the very thing you mentioned: the shutdown of seti classic. (See my heartfelt appreciation of this project a few posts back. )
If you double click the "8" tray icon (perhaps it's a "B" ) you will open the BOINC manager, which shows what's going on. If you have any seti WUs running, they should show up in the "Work" tab there. The "Transfers" tab may show some WUs that are in the process of being transferred, as I say seti servers are overloaded ATM, but BOINC will automatically retry the transfers at random intervals.
If something else seems amiss other than no work being UL/DLed, you can look at the "Messages" tab and post here anything suspicious.
Anyhow, since you are running BOINC successfully, all you have to do is shut down seti classic & remove it from your start up group (or maybe just uninstall it.)
What most BOINC people do when projects like seti are down is just attach to another project and set it to run at a low priority, so that it only does real work when seti is down. predictor@home is good for this, as is LHC@home, because their WUs are fairly short.
If you want to try this, you can click Projects|Attach to Project from the BOINC manager main menu. A wizard will open (if you have BOINC version 5.x) and you just enter the project's url. The wizard has a link to a list of BOINC projects, and the BAUT team's projects are also listed on the BAUT team page linked in my sig (except CPDN, predictor, and µFluids.) If you do attach to another project, you can then join the BAUT team for it, which you can do near the bottom of the team page.
The whole BOINC thing is a bit intimidating at first, so please post back if you need anything else, excluding as always free beer.
But to summarize, it appears you are BOINCing just fine, and are just being caught out by a hopefully temporary bunch of overloaded seti servers.
After months of begging, I finally have a new computer at work. I needed the computer to do some of the more complex calculations that my advisor wanted me to do. However, when it's not working on my physics, it can work on Einstein @ home! It's a Athlon 64 4000+ with 4 GB of RAM so it can chug through a WU in ~4.7 hours. So to those above me, watch out. I estimate my RAC will soon be close to 500.
Nice little box, Laser Jock!
I'm suitably envious.Code:Measured floating point speed 2487.8 million ops/sec Measured integer speed 4658.7 million ops/sec
You are already doing pretty good, becoming the most recent in E@H to go over 50,000 credits.
Wolverine will be next momentarily, making 15 BAUTers at that level.
Speaking of Einstein@Home,
This S5 data set is the first for LIGO at its design sensitivity, IIRC, and the hope is for LIGO to soon detect gravity waves from inspiraling binary pulsars.Originally Posted by Ben Owen
Hopefully the E@H search will also find a few of its target, single pulsars with mountains, as Ben Owen describes them.
So let's everyone on the team go out and pick up (or have Santa pick up for us) a couple of machines speced out like LJs...
Although its not quite up to those specs, I have ordered a replacement processor for the computer that went down several months ago. Mercury should be up and running within a week.Originally Posted by Ken Vogt
Whee, I finally broke the 50k mark.
And passed me too. Not for long, I've a pretty long list of pending WU's building up.Originally Posted by Wolverine
Thanks. And, yes, I'm sure it's temporary given my single, slowish box.
I knew we were coming close, but I forgot to check it recently. Also of note is that our recent average credit has been growing recently. At least partially thanks to Laser Jock's new computer. But some others seem to have been generating more credit recently, too.Originally Posted by Wolverine
Same here.Originally Posted by azazul
I can't take full credit. My RAC has only risen by about 100. However, it is still rising.Originally Posted by azazul
Unfortunately, we were just passed by our old friend US Navy.
my RAC has gone up, I haven't a clue why though, a few week ago I was above 50 now I'm 19.Originally Posted by azazul
I've been having problems wth the site tonight, I can't seem to access my account page or the forums, is it just me?
When you first join, you don't have very high RAC for a while. BOINC figures your RAC by finding the average credit you turn in each day with more weighting on recent days. So it takes about a month to build up much RAC.Originally Posted by mrkami
Works fine for me now.Originally Posted by mrkami
News from LHC@home:
19.12.2005 12:21 UTC
CHRISTMAS AND FUTURE PLANS:
Just received from the LHC accelerator physicists:
"The results from the recent tracking campaign have been presented in our meeting last Friday. The presentation was well received and it was decided to continue with another massive study after Christmas, using a slightly different set of parameters. The foreseen study will need about the same computing resources as the one just completed. Maybe more, probably not less. The results of the previous study will be presented at the forthcoming Particle Accelerator Conference 2006 in Edinburgh."
Happy Christmas and thanks from CERN to all LHC@home volunteers!
And from this Einstein@Home thread:
(bold added)Originally Posted by Ben Owen
Many thanks to azazul for starting the Rosetta@home team.
I know nothing about biology, and now prefer rosetta to predictor solely on the basis of the information in the link just above. If you have a different view, please post here, or on the rosetta thread on azazul's forum. Obviously, any BOINC project can be discussed there also; guests welcome.Originally Posted by rosetta
On the BOINC side, rosetta WUs seem quick, finishing in about 4 hours CPU on a ~2.8 GHz box, and they have generous 3 week deadlines, so it is a good project for slower machines, and for "filling in" for projects which are occasionally down, like LHC and seti.
On the credit front, modesty does not prevent me from saying that our total RAC is several hundred lower than it would have been because I've been doing the CPDN spinup. As of now my model is 20% done and has earned about 10,000 credits for the alpha project's "BAUT" team. Carl has said he will eventually add this credit to the real CPDN totals, but CPDN culture militates against discussion of credit on their boards -- everyone fancies themselves far more concerned with finishing climate models, and "credit whore" is the dirtiest of words. But I promise on behalf of the team (and on my behalf, whore that I really am) to remind Carl of this before the end of my run, some 3 months hence.
Here's a snapshot of the current team performance, now with credit in all the major BOINC projects:
Finally, Congratulations to team founder azazul upon his recent graduation from San Angelo University with a degree in physics! I believe this proves wrong the contention by advocates of ID that extremely improbable events can never happen.
Welcome to the forum, mrkami. And, congrats, azazul!
Nature news item on the move of seti@home to BOINC. (free)
As I wrote on 11/17,
From the article:Hopefully the press will make note of the occasion, and take the opportunity to explain BOINC's role as seti's successor.
Originally Posted by Declan ButlerI have "Curing Disease," caused by sitting too close to the woodstove on a winter's morning, so locating it will be a big help.If you already have SETI@home or want to start contributing, you will have to download and install software from BOINC. You will then be given the option to donate various percentages of your machine's time to any or all of the projects. Users can chose, for example, to donate 70% of their unused computer power to finding curing disease, 20% to looking for aliens, and 10% to predicting the future climate.
Seriously, it's nice to see reasonably accurate descriptions of BOINC in this magazine; though giving only 10% to CPDN is not realistic, given sulphur models' length.
Hello,Originally Posted by Ken Vogt
at my office I got a nice replacement server...
It's only a 2.8 GHz Intel but it's a Xenon dual processor system! Currently it delivers nearly exactly 6 Einstein WUs per day (that is 4h per WU).
And due to the end-of-work at LHC an other Server is currently crunching Einstein WUs...
overall my RAC climbed from approx. 850 to 1250 (with approx. 3000 Credits pending).
when LHC delivers work again, one of my computers will return to those WUs...
and I have to shut down an other server (the Pentium III 1.4 GHz, which is replaced by the new one), which returned 2 WUs per day...
I also joined the Rosetta team as I was already crunching there for a while...
a long deadline, no quorum required... just the WUs for my home computer which is on for only 20%...
unfortunately they have big data files to download (2 MB) for only a short computation (1-4h depending on the WU). For my low speed modem connection at home that is not a good relation...
So I started to crunch a Einstein WU at home after pausing Einstein for a while... and the WU was still taken from the old data file (downloaded on 26th of september!)
so far from me, happy crunching and happy christmas!
Sounds like a nice new upgraded machine; I'm suitably envious.
And welcome to the Rosetta team, it's good to have company there. I apologize for not noting the size of the WUs, with DSL you forget to pay attention any more, but 2 MB WUs would be a disadvantage for sure on dial-up or machines short on disk space.
Thanks for pointing it out.
These new WUs can be identified because they start with "z1_" (edit: or "r1_; thanks to Udo below) instead of h or l; and they use a new application; for Windows, your version will change from 4.79 to 4.37.Originally Posted by Einstein@Home
I haven't got one of the new WUs yet, and there don't seem to have been any problems yet reported on the boards.
As I understand it, the improved sensitivity is compensated for by a narrower range of frequencies searched per WU, so that crunch time will remain about the same. (edit: or less, see below.)
I join Udo in wishing the whole BAUT team and community a Happy Christmas and Holiday Season --- Greetings!
Last edited by Ken Vogt; 2005-Dec-26 at 11:18 PM. Reason: incorporate Udo's findings
Ken,Originally Posted by Ken Vogt
I already got some of the new WUs.
In my case they start with "r1_" and take 27800 seconds to complete instead of 40800 (where my old WUs started with "w1_").
See WU 3080064 for more information...
I'll edit above to include the "r1_"
Dr Allen has a post about Albert, which he is updating with answers to crunchers' questions, so you only have to read the first post.
So apparently, contrary to what I said above, -oops , WU times will vary, but will often be shorter, as Udo found.Originally Posted by Bruce Allen
Who gets what WU is random for the moment...
I downloaded the latest version of BOINC that was available to me when I openend my accounts in September 2005. That was BOINC version 4 point something. I have never upgraded to a later version of BOINC because I heard rumors of "problems." I have a pretty fast computer, an
Athlon XP 3000+ with Windows XP. I only run LHC and Einstein. Should I upgrade to the latest version of BOINC? Are there any particular advantages or disadvantages to doing so?
Last edited by Fortunate; 2005-Dec-27 at 06:48 PM.