Free Republic and the monn hoax ....again.

[infocusinc]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/817393/posts

The reader comments to this story are worth the read.

Craig

[Senor Molinero]

Excellent reader comments. Some of them need to check this BB for all the answers, though.
Can anyone here confirm if those pictures of the A17 site are from the remote camera or from the Russian rover.

[ToSeek]

On 2003-01-05 22:31, Senor Molinero wrote:
Excellent reader comments. Some of them need to check this BB for all the answers, though.
Can anyone here confirm if those pictures of the A17 site are from the remote camera or from the Russian rover.

The pictures are from the A17 lunar rover. Among other things, the Lunokhod only had a black-and-white camera.

If you visit the appropriate ALSJ page and view the liftoff footage, it's easy to verify that the stills were taken from the exact same angle as the LRV.

[ToSeek]

On 2003-01-05 21:34, infocusinc wrote:
The reader comments to this story are worth the read.

My favorite so far:

There really isn't. It'd take one of FR's more expertly-trained optics specialists to tell exactly why, but quite simply, those 'scopes are built to look at things light-years away. That is, for the uninformed, the distance light travels in one year (at its speed of 186,000 miles per second).

Thus, the surface of the moon is simply too close for them to resolve anything of note upon its surface.

Few people, it seems to me, truly have an understanding of the sheer distances involved in astronomy. They're brutal. It has been said that, were there only two bees in flight right NOW over the continental United States, the airspace thereof would be more congested with bees than space is with stars.

THAT is the distance we are speaking of. The Moon is barely a million miles away (I think...someone can provide the exact figure. I believe it is actually less than a million miles, though). A telescope designed to look at bodies trillions of miles away simply cannot look at it.

[JayUtah]

It's often very useful to witness the discussion between reasonable people who simply lack certain special facts. It gives you an idea of what information needs to be up front. For example, a lot of people suggest viewing the remnants with a telescope. That means those of us who understand why that won't work have to speak up and let people know. And a lot of people don't understand the thermodynamics of spacecraft, so those of us who understand that have to speak up.

[infocusinc]

I just added links for clavius and babb at the free republic site

[calliarcale]

One minor comment about the Lunokhods as well -- they never came anywhere near close enough to the Apollo sites to photograph them.

[Tomblvd]

Craig, what's your screen name at FR? Mine's TomB (catchy, isn't it?), please ping me to the next moon hoax thread.

Things were a lot funnier before the moderators culled out all the crazies the past year or two. You could always count on a lively hoax discussion. Otherwise though, those people were a nuisance.

My favorite poster to these threads is "mamzelle". Apparently she, or someone she's close to, had a bad relationship with an astronaut, and she REALLY hates them. ALL of them. She has claimed in the past that they were nothing but "trained monkeys" and only had to "hit a few buttons" to land on the moon. It's pretty fun to get her going. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]

And welcome aboard JimO! I'll be sure to 'ping' you to any relevant threads at FR.