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    Folks

    I just thought you might like to know that I've just had an article published in the Australian "Skeptic" magazine about the whole Moon hoax business. It covers the main claims by Moon Hoax believers, their backgrounds, Moon Hoax Believers in general, and a list of books and web-sites for people to consult. Two of the three sites I mention are this one and Jay's Moon Base Clavius, and one of the books I mention is Phil's.

    Email going around says that this magazine is the best one ever, though no one has mentioned my article specifically. Hopefully, however, it'll encourage a few more people to visit the sites.

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    Peter, is the mag online? I didn't find it through my default search engine. Do you have a link, or any suggestions on additional keywords to search?
    thnx -- Papa

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    Papa Bear

    The magazine isn't online. However, some articles from it have been placed on the Australian Skeptics web-site. Mine isn't one of them, and I don't think there are any Moon Hoax articles on the site.

    However, if you visit http://www.skeptics.com.au, you can find details about the magazine.

    Alternatively, if you're interested, I could email you the article. Keep in mind, though, it covers the same stuff the BA and Jay Utah cover, in a lot less detail.

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    Well, my article impressed someone!

    The next Australian Skeptics National Convention is going to be here in Canberra in August, and I've been asked to give a talk at it about the Moon Hoax business.

    (It's not that hard - after all, I'm on the local Skeptics committee, and we decide who we're going to invite to speak. But I *didn't* nominate myself! [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img])

    One thing I'm looking forward to is that we're going to run a session aimed at school groups, giving them an introduction to skeptical thinking, and the Skeptics' views on a few basic topics. I'm hoping we can put the Moon Hoax business in there.

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    Well, while you're at it, can you chase down the 'rolling coke bottle' story from Australia?

    Seems plausible to me, especially considering that the image was from a camera in broadcast format viewing a monitor in NASA moon-to-earth transmission format.

    So why couldn't objects on some tabletop in Australia also appear on the broadcast?


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    Jim, try
    http://www.clavius.org/bibcoke.html

    I believe the alleged Coke bottle is a catadioptric effect originating at the hot spot on Aldrin's visor. Anyone who watches much of the Apollo 11 EVA television coverage gets an eyefull of such effects.


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    Here's another article I saw on the Moon Hoax. I wasn't sure if posting here or starting a new thread was appropriate.

    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2003/1/prweb54467.php

    The article is written by Der Voron, I am unfamiliar with his works but he seems to write about aliens, UFO's, & genetically engineered humans and all that junk.

    Looks like a load of poop to me but I thought I'd post for some discussion.

    Gary

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    It's a load of poop. It's a good example of why laymen that attempt an engineering analysis shouldn't be given the credibility of appearing in print.

    The author's method of estimating spacecraft provisioning for lunar liftoff has absolutely no basis either in logic or in engineering practice. The weight of a booster does not scale with its power. Just because a 750-ton rocket has 6 units of power doesn't mean a rocket with 1 unit of power should weigh one-sixth of 750 tons.

    Put simply, that's absolutely preposterous.

    The mass of a booster depends on its structural system, which in turn is determined by other requirments. Boosters must bear shear loads and compression loads imposed by the aerodynamics of launch. A lunar module must bear only the compression loads imposed by inertia. Boosters intended for use in atmosphere on earth simply must be beefier qualitatively, not just quantitatively.


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    This idiot claims the reason NASA couldn't have landed on the moon is because they need to deploy a launching system on the moon. In other words, he thinks they need a launch pad and structures on the Moon for the return vehicle.

    The thing is, they did have a launch system. It is called the LM. The base of the LM is the quadrapod stand. The ascent engine fires to raise the crew compartment. There is no need for any other type of launch system or launch pad.

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