Snore of the Worlds

[Inferno]

Tom Cruise won Worst Actor at the Razzies for his performance in WOTW. now the Razzies are just a bit of silly fun, but was Tom really that bad? No, it wasn't a stand out performance, but then again it really couldn't be with the limited character development. He did a competent job - basically playing himself. I assume they really gave him worst actor because of all the insane publicity around him and Katie over the last year.

[Dragon Star]

Inferno gets a cookie.

[SolusLupus]

I've read the book, but haven't seen the movie. According to the book, the machines weren't buried, they were actually FIRED BY CANNON from mars. Consider the age of the book, this may have looked plausible to them then. The top of the "shells" unscrewed, the alien's machines began constructing the death rays and tripods, while the aliens squirmed uselessly about (gravity too high for them). Good reading.

And the funny thing is, compared to this, the movie was completely realistic

[Dragon Star]

lol

[Lianachan]

My main problem with how many BAers (from what I know), have taken shots at Spielberg himself, even insulting him and denoting that he was inadequate in intelligence.

I mean, maybe I'm just taking a few of the comments a little too far, but isn't that taking critical reviewing a little too far, into the range of Ad Hominems? Spielberg has never seemed unintelligent to me; outside of Schindler's List, he just seems unwilling to "Break the Mold", and try something new. Is that really so unforgivable?

If I could, I would change the entire Hollywood industry. I would change the face of every movie produced. I would introduce both realism and extremist surrealism; I would make many movies with the comic-book unrealism of "Sin City" and the gritty real-world realism of "Man on Fire"; but I would make sure that the directors doing them are willing to go out on a limb, and willing to try something completely new; and rely less and less heavily on cliches and stock characters.

But Spielberg is not me. Why should I denote he's stupid for that?

It's all entirely subjective, of course. He's made some fantastic films over the years - Indiana Jones, Jaws, etc.. - but I personally haven't liked anything he's done for a long time.

[Halcyon Dayz]

Spielberg is one of the people who invented the mold.

[SolusLupus]

It's all entirely subjective, of course. He's made some fantastic films over the years - Indiana Jones, Jaws, etc.. - but I personally haven't liked anything he's done for a long time.

How does this make him an idiot, though? He makes a movie you don't like, and he's suddenly mentally incapable? Or is the particular insult being used simply a misnomer, meant to say that a person has to make a movie for your personal taste in order to be considered of higher intelligence? I'm not claiming that YOU said it, though I don't knwo if you did or not, just that I remember that people on this forum have, indeed, deemed Spielberg an "idiot" at one time or another.

I mean, jeez.

[Lianachan]

How does this make him an idiot, though? He makes a movie you don't like, and he's suddenly mentally incapable? Or is the particular insult being used simply a misnomer, meant to say that a person has to make a movie for your personal taste in order to be considered of higher intelligence? I'm not claiming that YOU said it, though I don't knwo if you did or not, just that I remember that people on this forum have, indeed, deemed Spielberg an "idiot" at one time or another.

I mean, jeez.

I said it's all entirely subjective, of course and I personally haven't liked... If you have to vent, please do so in reply to others who've perhaps earned it more.

[SolusLupus]

I said it's all entirely subjective, of course and I personally haven't liked... If you have to vent, please do so in reply to others who've perhaps earned it more.

I know that's what you said. But what you said was in responce to a post I was making against such behavior. I was taking it as a defence.

[SolusLupus]

I said it's all entirely subjective, of course and I personally haven't liked... If you have to vent, please do so in reply to others who've perhaps earned it more.

I know that's what you said. But what you said was in responce to a post I was making against such behavior. I was taking it as a defence. Plus, I think my post came off more harshly than I meant it to. I wasn't actually intending to directly attack you, I was more of meaning "why does that make it right?" to you, not saying, "You said it's right".

Sorry about that.

[Inferno]

It's all entirely subjective, of course. He's made some fantastic films over the years - Indiana Jones, Jaws, etc.. - but I personally haven't liked anything he's done for a long time.

Speilberg still has the same raw talent he always had. WOTW, Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can were all turned into entirely enjoyable films through Speilberg's direction.

Where his films have been lacking lately IMO is with the script. WOTW had a very simple script with some plot holes and silliness, Minority Report just failed in its last 30 minutes where the script turned into a hollywood thriller by numbers with cliched conspiracy theory, and CMIYC's script failed to really dig into the depth of the emotion and characters of the true story (much the same way as Ron Howard's A Beautiful Mind, while good in it's own right, could have been so much better if they followed the drama of the true story).

[Lianachan]

I know that's what you said. But what you said was in responce to a post I was making against such behavior. I was taking it as a defence. Plus, I think my post came off more harshly than I meant it to. I wasn't actually intending to directly attack you, I was more of meaning "why does that make it right?" to you, not saying, "You said it's right".

Sorry about that.

No worries. You're right - it doesn't make it right. I happen not to like anything of his I've seen for years. This isn't a decision I've made, to dislike it all, it just pans out that way. This doesn't make Spielberg (or me!) an idiot at all, to my mind. He's just been failing to boil my kettle. Different strokes, and all that.

[Lord Jubjub]

Tom Cruise won Worst Actor at the Razzies for his performance in WOTW. now the Razzies are just a bit of silly fun, but was Tom really that bad? No, it wasn't a stand out performance, but then again it really couldn't be with the limited character development. He did a competent job - basically playing himself.

Naw, he hasn't won yet.

Best Actor Razzie Nominations

Some of his competition deserves that award more than he . . .

I assume they really gave him worst actor because of all the insane publicity around him and Katie over the last year.

They gave him two nominations in this category:

Most Tiresome Tabloid Targets

[SolusLupus]

They gave him two nominations in this category:

Most Tiresome Tabloid Targets

Well deserved. Well deserved.