Where is the antimatter gone ?

[czeslaw]

There are many hypothesis :
1 – Violation of CPT invariance proposed by A. Sacharow in BB scenario. Experiments with beta mesons shows partial violation of CPT invariance (Ba-BAR, CERN). The “TRAP” experiments found no violations of CPT in cyclotron frequencies with proton-antiproton at the level of 9 parts in 10^11.

2 – No violation CPT invariance.
2.1- There are some antigalaxies in the space – nobody have seen them.
2.2- There is a different gravity – antigravity between antimatter/antimatter and matter/antimatter. Antigravity between antimatter/antimatter and neutral matter/antimatter. Antigravity between antimatter/antimatter and gravity matter/antimatter. Antimatter particles create cosmic voids and different galaxy halos depends on kind of the gravity.

2.3- In Ari-Czeslaw Local Big Bang in Static Total Universe we have whirlwinds of the condensed energy with created matter-antimatter particles in large space.
If the matter goes in other direction as antimatter during creation-annihilation (towards the center of the whirlwind ?) we have a concentration of the matter and antimatter going outside. We have then the wave of the annihilation (sound waves) moving from the center to outsides spheres.
Everything rotate – moving particle fracture the spheres and stretch rotating bars with spiral arms.
One fractioned sphere may create a filament of the galaxy clusters.
The antimatter would be extruded outside of our observable Universe.

[Ari Jokimaki]

In Ari-Czeslaw Local Big Bang in Static Total Universe ...

This is very polite from you czeslaw, but we haven't yet done any theories together, so you don't have to mention my name every time when you talk about your theory.

I only mentioned my old proposal to you because there were some similarities, it wasn't my intention to claim that I invented the same thing before you, so there's no need to give any credit to me in this context.

[czeslaw]

O.K.Ari.
It is a hypothesis only but if it would be a serious theory I will remember of You.

[Ari Jokimaki]

If the matter goes in other direction as antimatter during creation-annihilation (towards the center of the whirlwind ?) we have a concentration of the matter and antimatter going outside.

Do you have any reason why matter would go towards the center and antimatter away from the center?

[czeslaw]

I am not sure how the matter-antimatter separation goes.
There may be some ideas in the point 2.3 :
- If there is one proton surplus in the center then every random proton surplus will collected in this center. The particle and antiparticle move in opposite directions during creation. Every particle in condensed energy causes creation of another particle-antiparticle and every antiparticle causes the particle-antiparticle as well.
There is enough space outside our Observable Universe to collect for antiparticles.
In our idea Observable Universe is not closed. The gravitation helps to separate.
This creation-annihilation-creation process causes a sound wave from the center to outside sphere. The momentum of the photons coming from the outer space (Total Universe) drives the rotation of our Observable Universe and helps to separate from antiUniverse . If it is randomly separated then it is very difficult to mix.
I don’t know if it is correct.
The points 1., 2.1, 1.2 are correct or any other reason?
Does somebody knows where is the antimatter gone ? Can you help me ?
Have you discuss on this subject earlier ?

[Ari Jokimaki]

If there is one proton surplus in the center then every random proton surplus will collected in this center. The particle and antiparticle move in opposite directions during creation.

But if an antiparticle goes towards the center, it eats away the surplus in the center. This is a simplified view of what I think would happen:

1.                           p                    a->

2.                <-p a->    p                     a->

3.          <-p             ap                         a->

4.         <-p                                          a->

Explanation:
1. Let's assume that there is a particle (p) in the "center" and an antiparticle (a) flying away from the "center".
2. New particle-antiparticle pair is formed and here we assume, like you said, that they are moving in opposite directions.
3. Because the direction is random for the antiparticle, it happens that it now hits the particle in the center.
4. particle in the center and the antiparticle that hit there have annihilated each other, we now have one particle and one antiparticle in outer space moving away from the center.

What I was trying to ask that when particle-antiparticle pair is formed, is there any reason that particle would always move towards the center and antiparticle away (preventing that what happened in my example)?

Why would particle and antiparticle move in opposite directions when they are created?

The gravitation helps to separate.

But aren't the masses of a particle and an antiparticle the same?

The points 1., 2.1, 1.2 are correct or any other reason?

It seems that CP-violation might be the answer. But I don't know much about this.

[czeslaw]

For example – if X-ray comes close to the Black Hole it may create proton-antiproton pair. The annihilation-creation process will be continued till the last antiproton is gone away. The neutrino will be very helpful for it.

[czeslaw]

When the antiproton is produced in the atmosphere or CERN or Fermilab it moves opposite to proton.
If there are many protons and antiprotons they move in opposite directions but many different directions and may mix with each other.
In CERN they catch the antiprotons in an magnetic trap.

The antiproton has opposite spin towards proton. I do not know if it is enough to separate them in our rotating Universe.
There is may be a violation of CPT invariance as in BB but our rotating open Local Universe gives even more possibilities. I want search it.

[Ari Jokimaki]

The antiproton has opposite spin towards proton. I do not know if it is enough to separate them in our rotating Universe.

Both electromagnetic force and gravity are pulling them together, but I don't know how spin works. Still, I'm rather sceptical about your idea.

But I'm just quessing here, particle physics is way over my head.

[czeslaw]

The antimatter separated in the quasar’s jets ?

A spin is like a gyroscope top. If an accreting cloud rotate around the neutron star or Black Hole and this rotation change the axis towards the main axis, the clouds fall down to the center. We see the scenario as in CERN Athena project then. Everything is rotating like gyroscope and when it hits the particle-antiparticle are created. Left spin goes down and right spin goes up.

This way may the antimatter be from the beginning of our rotating local Universe separated.

Is it possible ? Do somebody hear about it ? Is any paper on this topic ?
Let me know, please.

[czeslaw]

How do you think, Ari, why do they not attack my idea of the rotating Local Universe and gyroscoping quasars separating particle and antiparticle due to its spin?
Is my English to hard to understand ? or the idea is so strange ? or everybody agree with me ? Is there no paper about this topic? I know, that Arp wrote something.

[Ari Jokimaki]

How do you think, Ari, why do they not attack my idea of the rotating Local Universe and gyroscoping quasars separating particle and antiparticle due to its spin?

It's hard to say. I thought that this might be interesting subject to many, but sometimes it just goes like this. You might post something that you think is very interesting and nobody cares, and then you might post something that doesn't seem to be big deal and everybody jumps on you. It is not always easy to tell which subjects get attention here. Maybe they are too busy with Jerry, Lunatik, cyrek1, lyndonashmore, etc. right now.

Is my English to hard to understand ?

It's hard some places, but I don't think it's too hard. But one thing you could improve is that sometimes you try to explain too many things with too few words in one post. That makes your thoughts hard to follow sometimes. (I probably do the same thing myself.)

or the idea is so strange ?

I don't think so, to me it seems interesting.

or everybody agree with me ?

I would find that very surprising. :wink:

Is there no paper about this topic? I know, that Arp wrote something.

Are you aware of Google Scholar? It returns scientific papers from your search words. I just tried it with "antimatter" and it returns lots of papers.

[czeslaw]

Thank you Ari for your opinions and questions. It supports me.
This Google Scholar is better then ordinary Google, Thank you for it.

I went shortly through and I did not find a model like our Local Big Bang in a Static Total Universe. They begin usually with the ordinary Big Bang and have problems with matter-antimatter mixture.

We have eternal energy making dense whirlwind like a hiperquasar. Our observable Universe would be a matter jet ejected from this enormous whirlwind. On the other side would be an antimatter jet.

There are many images of the quasars. One of the ideal quasar http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=38427
An accretion gas move in one direction around the quasar and fall down from one direction. The particle of this neutron star or something like close to Black Hole move in one direction. Its magnetic field has one direction. I suppose, the spin of the particles will be very important to the direction of the ejection of the new created particles and antiparticles.

[Ari Jokimaki]

Thank you Ari for your opinions and questions. It supports me.
This Google Scholar is better then ordinary Google, Thank you for it.

You're welcome!

I went shortly through and I did not find a model like our Local Big Bang in a Static Total Universe. They begin usually with the ordinary Big Bang and have problems with matter-antimatter mixture.

It's possible that this antimatter question has not been discussed much in the static universe papers.

We have eternal energy making dense whirlwind like a hiperquasar. Our observable Universe would be a matter jet ejected from this enormous whirlwind. On the other side would be an antimatter jet.

This should happen also in normal quasars and galaxy nuclei, shouldn't it? I wonder if it's possible to detect an antimatter jet, how we would distinguish it from regular matter jet?