Non Newtonian Physics

[Chip]

On 2002-06-25 15:28, Tim Thompson wrote:
"But why does the universe do what we know it does? That's a tougher question, and is not directly observable. We answer the "why" by constructing some logical model that correlates as many of the facts we "know" as can be correlated; the more, the merrier."

I always enjoy Mr. Thompson's lucid comments here. I think the statement above illustrates why it is a bit harder for most of us to answer one of BigAl713's questions:

"...why is energy equal to mass times the speed of light squared?"

The key word is "why". "What" the equation means can be found and defined, but why it works, is much more involved, and Tim Thompson outlines the methods to discover this.

BigAl713 also states:
"...Day is proposing a 3 tier structure of matter, all orbital in nature, and in the subatomic structure the meutrion is a nucleus. However the mass at the atomic level is in the nucleus, at the particle level it is in the encircling photons."

Chip:
Did you mean "metreon" or "neutrino"?
Though Mr. Day himself is perhaps not obligated to do so, it would be a good thing if he (or someone) would devise independent experiments to test or reveal this structure should it exist. Perhaps his theory isn't relevant enough for someone to want to do this?

BigAl713 states:
"Is there a relationship between light and matter and if so what?...Day's answer is that matter is 'made' out of light. Light is pure motion through space-medium and when turned in on itself forms the basis for matter. Matter is motion..structural motion..."

Chip:
Don't quite get "matter is made out of light". As in matter is made from waves/particles? Photons? I read through the link but maybe I missed the explanation. Again, what independent experiments can be devised to test or reveal any of this structure should it exist?

How is his theory as good or better at defining the universe than current physics? Does it reconcile the breaking point between special relativity and quantum theory? I didn't notice that it addressed this.

I'm not a total math wizard, but expressing the basic mechanics of his ideas mathematically would have been helpful. Perhaps revealing any hidden flaw. Many of the statements are too subjective and open to diverse interpretation. Perhaps it's too "holistic"? [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]

[BigAl713]

I would like to thank everyone who has taken the time to exchange views. It is a priviledge to do so with you all. And the links are provide fascinating perspective. Thank you!
Here is a cut and paster for Day's website..the very first page. It answers the questions posed very well. Motion is the universal constant.

The physics of the structure of matter is different from the physics of motion devised by Newton and Einstein. Both are based on distinct principles and laws. The physics of the structure of matter is non-Newtonian in nature. This physics has proven to be a powerful tool in determining the simplest mathematical order of remote complex systems

Matter is organized in a three-system hierarchy consisting of particles, atoms, and gravitational systems. By knowing the general conditions of this hierarchy it is possible to predict a system's structural order from other members of the hierarchy. This hierarchy has three principal features:

Motion is an integral part of the structure.
A nuclear body creates the conditions around which the system forms.
Properties of the system are created by assembly of the constituents.

Since mass and charge originate with particles a model is devised composed of photons and neutrinos. The following unforeseen conditions were discovered to be necessary for the model to be consistent with known data and decay modes.

1. Energetic photons split and cyclize. There is a threshold to the stability of the photon, below which it cleaves into opposed configurations that condense on themselves to form self-contained particles with electric charge.

2. Neutrinos and antineutrinos have an electric charge. This unexpected result not only makes the hierarchical model possible, it makes the proton-neutron interconversion remarkably straightforward and consistent with beta decay. This puts into question why neutrinos (positrinos and negatrinos) are believed to be without charge.

The model accounts for: mass and charge, size of particles, the 1,836 mass/charge ratio, antimatter, and modes of decay.


Motion

Motion is nature's most fundamental variable. It is not something that is forced on nature, it exists as an intrinsic part of physical reality. There are material bodies and there are environments in which they exist and with which they interact. A body tends to remain in the center of its environment, and if the environment changes, the body shifts in response to that change.

This is why things move. There is a relationship between each body and its environment that must be kept in balance

Space is the environment for objects in it. It is not a void. There can be no interaction with a void. The space environment of bodies in it are the gravitational fields generated by matter in the universal medium for light and fields. Objects interact with this space of fields by their own gravitational field. A gravitational field weakens the tension of the medium and slows the velocity of light and equilibration of other fields in it. This slowing of equilibration of an object's gravitational field creates an asymmetry which the object is under compulsion to correct by moving into the field gradient to equalize its own gravitational field and remain centered.

Motion, therefore, occurs spontaneously from the mutual alteration by bodies on each other's space environments.

This mutual interplay of bodies and environments in space imparts on nature an organizing principle that results in structure formation. Motion and environment lead to kinematic systems where nuclear bodies create a space environment around which lesser bodies move in closed orbits. It is motion, therefore, not energy, upon which matter is structured.

There is a structural hierarchy based on motion: photons, particles, atoms, and gravitational systems. Motion in every case creates the space environment upon which the next higher tier forms. There are no forces acting across space, there is only the structural motion of each tier transmitting its motion to its environment which creates the space condition for an orbital system to form.

There is, therefore, no separation of motion and structure. Every object moving in space is moving in an actual or potentially actual orbit. There is no motion outside the fields of space because the fields themselves create the environment that causes motion.

Fields are reverberations by structural motion of particles in the non-material medium through which light waves and fields move. Particles detach from this medium when they form but all material bodies are suspended in it by the fields that their constituent particles generate. When force is applied to a body in space it is against the inertia created by this suspension and not against the tensile strength of the medium itself. The force is transmuted to a displacement span. Since all bodies in space are in an orbital mode, any force applied to them converts the displacement span to a change in the orbit length. The length of an orbit is an absolute value. It represents the size of an orbital system and is therefore self-contained and independent of any outside reference or relative motion.

Physicists have not developed a physics on motion, they have built one on energy. They have tied motion irrevocably to mass to make momentum (mv) and convert all forms of motion to energy equations. Because it is momentum, not motion, that is conserved in the transfer of action, the energy equations have been most valuable to develop a technology. But this has nothing to do with how nature has ordered itself into forms of matter.

There is nothing in the analysis or actions of matter to indicate that it is structured on energy. All objects fall at the same rate, all bodies in the same orbit move at the same velocity. Momentum does not enter into the equation. On the other hand, remove motion from a photon, atom, or gravitational system and they cease to exist.

Why then do physicists persist in explaining all things in terms of force and energy?

Modern physics is the successor to the unnatural physics of Newton. Newton devised a workable model to describe the motion of the moon and planets on the ideas of inertial motion, action at a distance, gravity as a force, and space as a void. It is a physics pieced together from the worldview of the seventeenth century.

Newton didn't know about particles, atoms, fields, or a structural hierarchy. He merely took from the engineering experience the impression that it takes a force to make things move and adjusted it with some abstract conditions to make an equation that describes orbital motion. It is extremely practical and useful, but it is a contrived mathematical model. It is not based on direct interactions and is not a valid representation of nature.

If one were to invent a physics today knowing what we now know he would not invent the one devised by Newton. Nor would he start with Newton's concepts and make all the modifications by Einstein and the quantum physicists to make a comprehensive theory. Rather, he would take a medium for light and fields, look at the structural hierarchy of matter, leave out all the abstractions, make everything a direct action, and assemble a single cohesive theory.


SUMMARY

1. There is a non-material medium through which light waves and fields move.
2. Particles consist of self-contained electromagnetism that detaches from the medium.
3. Objects are suspended in the medium by their gravitational fields.
4. Fields are reverberations in the medium by the structural motion of particles.
5. Space consists of fields generated in the medium.
6. Fields slow the velocity of light and the equilibration of fields.
7. Objects center in their space and move in a stronger field to equalize their own.
8. Matter is structured on kinematic systems.
9. The length of orbits is absolute and determines the size of the system.
10. Force to a body transmutes to a displacement span that adds to the orbit length. (F= ml)
11. Particles, atoms, and gravitational systems form a hierarchy.

What the New Physics Does

1. It returns all causes to direct action.
2. It resolves the Michelson-Morley paradox and accounts for two kinds of motion.
3. It explains the nature of space and accounts for motion in it.
4. It consolidates motion and structure.
5. It creates a kinematic geometry.
6. It combines objects, motion, and environment.
7. It unites all forms of matter into a self-creating structural hierarchy.
8. It accounts for mass and charge.
9. It accounts for particles and properties in terms of motion.
10. It eliminates the need for the force concept and makes motion a direct result of matter, fields, and space environment.

The Laws.

1. All lines of motion are closed.
2. Motion and structure are inseparable.
3. Orbital length, velocity and time are interrelated by l = vt.
4. The length of an orbit is absolute.
5. A force transmutes to orbit length by F = ml

Whether it is right or wrong I cannot say. I can only say that it is rational and offers a new unique vision. Perhaps I find it so resonating is because I really did not have any intellectual or emotional attachment to the existing theories. ??

Best Regards,
Al