A different view on the speed of light. Are we on the edge of the universe "now"?

[Rudolfhendriques]

Hi all,

I do have a different idea when we speak about the velocity of light. In my opinion is the speed of light no speed at all. My idea is that we travel trough spacetime with the velocity of light, and that light leaves a trail into the 4 dimensional spacetime of the past. So, I suggest that the speed of light is zero and that we travel with 300.000km/s. To explain my idea I made this youtube video. Maybe not the best you saw on youtube, but I just would like to give it a try.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kff8EBJ3Qo

My goal is to open a discussion about this idea. Do light travels 300.000km/s or do we travel with 300.000km/s into the spacetime of the future.
Is light a trail while we travel from day to day like a train travels from station to station?

Is "now" the edge of the universe?

I would like to hear your ideas/opinions about this idea, it's not easy to start a complete differnent view on reality..

[Swift]

Rudolfhendriques

First, welcome to BAUT.

Second, I've changed the embedded video in your post to a link. Though the software allows it, our rules do not - please don't embed video, just link to them.

Third, I strongly suggest you read The Advice for ATM Advocates and the links to our rules that are contained in that. The ATM forum is NOT for the development of non-mainstream ideas, or for their general discussion. It is for a person (like you) to present their ATM idea and to present evidence for it, and to defend it from questions from our membership. If you are not prepared to do this, please so immediately, and this thread will be closed.

[Rudolfhendriques]

No problem, if we know how to look evidence is all arround us. I'm just searching for a way how I can show this. And for this reasen I would like to present my idea on this forum.

[utesfan100]

If we are not moving in space, what is acceleration?

In special relativity any trajectory can be used to define a tangent tensor at any point on that trajectory. This tensor can be scaled to a unit length to define a velocity tensor for that trajectory.

For a mass at rest this velocity tensor is purely time like. One could interpret this as moving into the future at the speed of light. More accurately, one can say we are moving into the future at one second per second.

Because the unit length is hyperbolic, an increase in spatial motion also increases time-like motion. This is because the unit length corresponds to how far an object goes for a given amount of aging. Due to time dilation, a moving mass would move faster into time for the same amount of aging of the mass, and also be moving in space.

For photons this definition of a velocity tensor becomes degenerate, increasing without bound. We can redefine this unit length for a photon to remove the degeneracy, but doing so requires that photons do not age. They are not at rest, but move in space at the same speed they move forward in time.

How does your picture differ from this?

[Rudolfhendriques]

I suggest that photons don't travel in time at all. At the speed of light time is in rest. If a photon could carry a clock with him/her during a yourney, the time of departure would always be the same as the time of arrival. Time stops at the speed of light, and because of this I think that there never can be any movement for a photon.

[Reality Check]

I do have a different idea when we speak about the velocity of light.

Your view does not seem different. Velocity is relative. So if we measure the speed of light as c then we can say that either we or light are moving at c.
But it turns out that every observer travelling at any velocity measures the speed of light as c! This is a posulate of Special Relativity so the tests of SR confirms this.

Thus your view is actually wrong - it must be light that is travelling at c because observers can accelerate to different velocities and measure that light is traveling at c.

[Tensor]

I suggest that photons don't travel in time at all. At the speed of light time is in rest. If a photon could carry a clock with him/her during a yourney, the time of departure would always be the same as the time of arrival. Time stops at the speed of light, and because of this I think that there never can be any movement for a photon.

The equations of Special Relativity include velocity AND the speed of light. Can you produce the predictions, using the equations of your idea that match the observations of, say, GPS or the experiments in the Large Hadron Collider? Also, the equations of Special Relativity are Lorentz Invariant. Can you show your idea is Lorentz Invariant by showing the equations of your idea are Lorentz Invariant?

[John Mendenhall]

No problem, if we know how to look evidence is all arround us. I'm just searching for a way how I can show this. And for this reasen I would like to present my idea on this forum.

I would suggest that you read the entire thread at the following link:

http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthre...er-review-quot

and see where you and your idea fit in.


Believe me, if you do not have a complete understanding of the mainstream theory (and this implies that you have the math skills also), then the ATM reviewers will make mincemeat out of your idea. This is NOT the place to develop an idea; this is the place to present and defend an idea. I think your idea needs some more work.

[Bob Angstrom]

Is "now" the edge of the universe?

I would say "now" is the center of the universe. Everything we see exists in our past so "now" is our center and the "beginning" of the universe is the edge. Of course, the "center" of the universe is observer dependent so every observer no matter where they are finds himself at his own individual center. You could say the center of the universe is everywhere and the edge is nowhere.