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    Global Universe is like a 3D Rainbow

    I would like to discuss following idea with "Against the Mainstream" people...please, refrain persons who are staunch supporters and deffenders of Mainstream science.

    If we consider the Global Universe as the total Universe. (infinite or finite). and we consider Our Universe like that Universe that we know (from 10 exp -27 to 10 exp +27 meters), I propose the idea that we can divide the Global Universe in various (infinite) power of 10 levels or spectra (see attached file). Like a RAINBOW or MATRYOSHKA DOLLS.

    These levels/spectra can be posives or negatives, and we can supose that, for the the different levels of the Global Universe, the models with its own science laws, waves, entities and possible living beings, could change.

    It doesnīt means that these laws will be independent...but dependent between them.

    The different Universes doesnīt have boundaries, and they could be "open systems", with interchange of energy, matter (black holes),....

    The shape and appearance of Our and Global Universe is only a "virtual" or "apparent" Univers that we shape or model taking into account the different stimuli that we recive by our senses (EM, Gravity,...).

    In every level or spectra there could be (or not) different stimuli and possibly we could need different senses and receptors.

    If we want to detect these stimuli, we have to try to recive and capture these stimuli (waves,...)...if they arrive to Our Universe.

    Global Univ (Ing).pdf

    See following document and make a effort of extapolating: What will be beyond these limits?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKJlu...feature=fvwrel
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    Hello Dapifo,

    Now that you've chosen to participate in the ATM forum, please (re-)familiarize yourself with its rules (as linked below). I also suggest you read the Advice for ATM advocates, also linked below.


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    I would like to discuss following idea with "Against the Mainstream" people...please, refrain persons who are staunch supporters and deffenders of Mainstream science.
    The ATM forum is for you to defend your idea/theory, it is not a general chat forum to simply discuss it. Please note that you do NOT get to decide who can or cannot participate in this thread.
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    OK..thanks...I didnīt know about ATM forum....

    It is not my intention to veto the assistance of anyone, just ask you to leave the thread open so people can participate all they want without censorship. If anyone is interested (!?)

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    Please explain how these changes in physical laws affect the global spatial symmetries so important to gauge symmetries.
    Please explain how you intend to make QCD renormalisable with this broken symmetry.
    Please explain how your extra force terms cancel to give us things like QED and QCD predictions to such accuracy.

    We went through this in the other forum. You need a stronger background in physics to understand the ramifications of your proposed new laws. The sensible option would have been to go away and read up on these topics before posting here.

    In addition:
    Given that your scales completely smash the idea of scale invariance do you dismiss the duality theorems used to reduce the number of String theories? Do you have a replacement or do you just dismiss the whole field?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dapifo View Post
    OK..thanks...I didnīt know about ATM forum....

    It is not my intention to veto the assistance of anyone, just ask you to leave the thread open so people can participate all they want without censorship. If anyone is interested (!?)

    OK to repeat what you have already been told. Please read the rules for posting in the ATM Forum and the Advice for ATM Posters. This forum is for you to propose,support and defend your ATM idea. It is not somewhere for you to develop or have a general discussion.

    'staunch supporters and defendors of Mainstream Science' will not 'refrain' they will ask you questions about your idea which you are bound by the rules to answer.

    If you don't want to do this then we can close the thread
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    Do you have any evidence at all for this idea? Or is it just imaginative speculation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by captain swoop View Post
    OK to repeat what you have already been told. Please read the rules for posting in the ATM Forum and the Advice for ATM Posters. This forum is for you to propose,support and defend your ATM idea. It is not somewhere for you to develop or have a general discussion.

    'staunch supporters and defendors of Mainstream Science' will not 'refrain' they will ask you questions about your idea which you are bound by the rules to answer.

    If you don't want to do this then we can close the thread
    My idea is to find people (scientists multidisciplinary) to discuss this idea positively, with the following objectives:

    - Analyze the validity or viability (or not). Broadly speaking
    - Provide scientific consistency according to the State of the Art (or not).Analyze the strengths and weaknesses.
    - Establish a Plan of Action for evidence (whether tangible or theoretical).

    I do not know if this forum is the right place for it (?) If not, where I can do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaula View Post
    Please explain how these changes in physical laws affect the global spatial symmetries so important to gauge symmetries.
    Please explain how you intend to make QCD renormalisable with this broken symmetry.
    Please explain how your extra force terms cancel to give us things like QED and QCD predictions to such accuracy.

    We went through this in the other forum. You need a stronger background in physics to understand the ramifications of your proposed new laws. The sensible option would have been to go away and read up on these topics before posting here.

    In addition:
    Given that your scales completely smash the idea of scale invariance do you dismiss the duality theorems used to reduce the number of String theories? Do you have a replacement or do you just dismiss the whole field?
    Shaula...as you say..."I need a stronger background in physics to understand the ramifications of your proposed new laws", that is why I am asking for help...of multidisciplinary scientists. If we work in a positive way...together as a team...possibly we could reach good (or bad?) conclusions.

    I use to work a lot in "team work"...and I get always very good results...But I do not know if this forum is the right place for it (?)

    I donīt know any thing about QCD and QED...and other things...but (with your help?) I will learn quickly...you will see !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Do you have any evidence at all for this idea? Or is it just imaginative speculation?
    To obtain evidences are the third step !!!

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    Okay, it is clear that you have not read the rules of ATM.
    You don't have any thing but a vague description of a rainbow and want to develop your ATM here.
    Too bad, it does not work that way, which you would know if you had read the rules.
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