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Thread: Finding the locations of planets in the sky that aren't visible with the unaided eye

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    Finding the locations of planets in the sky that aren't visible with the unaided eye

    For a project of mine, I'm hoping to be able to find out the locations of several planets and other solar system bodies that we can't actually see with the unaided eye, and then calculate where they'll be in a few seasons and years. I have star charts made specifically for my latitude for each season, and I'm more than familiar with the equatorial coordinate system. But before I even get started on the project, I need to find the current equatorial coordinates of these bodies, and make sure I can see those coordinates at all from my location (so nothing in the southern hemisphere). For example, I know that at night at my location, Mars is currently in Leo, near Regulus. So the coordinates for Mars would be seemingly simple to find, as well as where it will be over the next 2 or so months until it sets at my latitude. I know that the coordinates change each day, so I'd have to do plenty of calculations. What I want to do is take something like Neptune, that I can't see, and find out what star or constellation it's currently near (or was near on a specific day and time) so I could put it on a chart and even shine a laser to that spot in the night sky and know it's there, even though I can't see it.

    But I'm not just sticking to bodies that orbit neatly near the ecliptic, I want to calculate this for things in the Asteroid Belt and Kuiper Belt too. I'd especially love to be able to find where something like Sedna is and point to where it is in the sky right now.

    So what I'm basically asking for is if anybody knows of a resource I can use to find out, ideally, where many bodies in the solar system are right now on the celestial sphere, or were during a recent day and time. But I'd be happy with just finding out what coordinates they were discovered at, so I can calculate where they are now, and will be in the near future. The more bodies I can find this out for the better.

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    Any planetary program should do. Stellarium and Cartes du Ciel are free and especially Cartes du Ciel is very powerful.

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    NASA / Jet Propulsion Laboratory HORIZONS

    http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/?horizons

    The JPL HORIZONS on-line solar system data and ephemeris
    computation service provides access to key solar system data
    and flexible production of highly accurate ephemerides for solar
    system objects ( 584164 asteroids, 3139 comets, 175 planetary
    satellites, 8 planets, the Sun, L1, L2, select spacecraft, and
    system barycenters ).


    DOWNLOAD ASTRONOMICAL SOFTWARE

    http://www.pierpaoloricci.it/downloa...ftware_eng.htm

    A BAUT poster in Italy maintains this page listing
    approximately 1000 computer programs dealing with
    astronomy. Many of them are planetarium programs
    which do exactly what you want. The list is divided
    into sub-topics, but there are sky map programs in
    *several* of those sub-topics, so look through the
    whole list. Both Stellarium and Cartes du Ciel are in
    this list.


    Online planetarium programs I found with a Google
    search just now:

    http://neave.com/planetarium

    http://www.fourmilab.ch/yoursky

    http://www.www.skyviewcafe.com

    -- Jeff, in Minneapolis
    http://www.FreeMars.org/jeff/

    "I find astronomy very interesting, but I wouldn't if I thought we
    were just going to sit here and look." -- "Van Rijn"

    "The other planets? Well, they just happen to be there, but the
    point of rockets is to explore them!" -- Kai Yeves

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    If you have an iOS phone or iPad just download the app Luminos - or any similar app. Luminos contains the Right Ascension and Declination of all the objects you seek. If you want to just look online, start with Heavens-Above. For example Neptune's RA is 22h 17m 38.2s and its Dec is -11° 12' 26" as of 7:00 pm US EDT.

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    Heavens-Above! I don't know why that didn't show up
    near the top of the Google page. I didn't have a link
    to it in this browser and couldn't remember the name.

    -- Jeff, in Minneapolis
    http://www.FreeMars.org/jeff/

    "I find astronomy very interesting, but I wouldn't if I thought we
    were just going to sit here and look." -- "Van Rijn"

    "The other planets? Well, they just happen to be there, but the
    point of rockets is to explore them!" -- Kai Yeves

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    JPL Horizons might be your best bet - it knows every object with a well-determined orbit (including interplanetary spacecraft), and you can give settings so that it will output a table of coordinates for any of the objects with results listed only when an object is above the local horizon in darkness (or any other altitude).

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