http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta105.htm
Who won?
Apparently we are going to see doctored proof even if the transit happens as expected. #-o
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http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta105.htm
Who won?
Apparently we are going to see doctored proof even if the transit happens as expected. #-o
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i see she left a typo there. it should have read: The much hyped Transit of Venus on June 8, 2004 will be visible by a few billion people. [-(The much hyped Transit of Venus on June 8, 2004 will be visible by few.
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Remember, Zetas done count zeros! 2 = 2,000,000,000Originally Posted by Morrolan
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Zeta Talk people scare me...
They scare me because I feel my IQ dropping from my head every time I read something they post...
By the way guys, I lost 2 IQ from that, I demand you re-pay me that IQ, please?
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from the linked page:
bwahahahahahahahahaha....We have deliberately avoided answering this question...
you don't say? For those who don't follow GLP (choosing some other time-honoured method to kill braincells instead
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Not quite. She said that if it really happens, you'll be able to see it. But that if it doesn't happen, then the pictures you see will be fakes.
Good ole crazy. Nothing beats crazy. (Poor ole Nancy, always plays crazy)
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JustAGuy, that's not the way I read this, but I concede that it's difficult to interpret NanZetaSpeak.So if we are closed mouthed about this matter, whether Venus will pass in front of the Sun and move on its way or not, the government will proceed with the plan that they have which is to present to you doctored photos and doctored videos, whether it happens or not.
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Good point. So, if it doesn't happen, then all the NASA pics are fake. And if it DOES happen.... all the NASA pics are fake?!?
Oh to be crazy.
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Hello,
Well, Nancy continues to avoid my questions; now she is posting about the Navy deployments as proof of PX. Sigh.
On another thread, some people are back on the SOHO bandwagon; claiming that a couple of images where Venus 'disappeared' is proof that NASA is faking the image of Venus altogether.
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...altime-c3.html
It does look odd, but I'm certain there is a rational explanation. Of course, the believers won't want to hear it. Sigh again.
Well, I shall continue my countdown, and then there should be a whole *lot* of people who will have seen Venus transiting the Sun for themselves. Of course, in so doing, they will *join* the conspiracy. Who knew that it could be so easy to be indoctrinated?
Jonathan
-It doesn't matter what I believe. What matters is what I can prove.-
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Amazing that NASA, with some of the greatest minds in the world, would miss doctoring ONE SOHO pic and then let it stay posted for so long #-oOn another thread, some people are back on the SOHO bandwagon; claiming that a couple of images where Venus 'disappeared' is proof that NASA is faking the image of Venus altogether.
I sure that there's a rational explaination but I don't think "rational" is in the WooWoo dictionary.
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Somewhere in the processing of SOHO images, if a portion of an image is missing, an older version is used instead. That's all that's happening, and it's evident from the background stars and what's emanating from the Sun that for some reason it's going back to images before Venus entered the field of view.
However, I despair of convincing any GLP woo-woos of this.
Everything I need to know I learned through Googling.
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Have any of y'all EVER theorized that Nancy and ZT are PsyOps?
Seriously. Has a single one of you ever thought TPTB control her?
Y'all spend SOOO much time debunking her. One might suspect
that you are being led, like sheep, to a specific grazing pasture.
I am not calling you all sheep. I am calling those who spend alot
of time blathering to their net buddies about Nancy, the sheep -
That grass sure tastes good, don't it? Sorry to interrupt dinner...
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In a way that's partly true. Nancy, and others, put out a lot of bunk... and we spend a lot of time debunking it. But, that doesn't mean we dont consider the possablility that something is true, we do consider it. If ever the woowoo world would present a plausable theory or conclusion with even a shread of evidence, well then it wouldn't be considered woowoo. Fortunatly, or unfortunatly depending on perspective, the woowoos are pretty consistant at presenting completly invlalid theories. It's actually difficult to find a theory or conslusion based in reality on ZetaSqualk or Hoaglands site. Sure a few of the details are factual but the bulk of it is laughable to anyone with a reasonably critical skeptical mind who requires some sort of evidence to belive in something.
Really the vast majority of woowoo theories and conclusions are based on seeing something that doesn't exist. They confuse shapes in the clouds with reality. BA has a good description here: http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/lenin.html
So yeah, we do spend a lot of time debunking, but there's a lot of bunk out there to debunk. And that doesn't mean we are being led, it means we are thinking logically.
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Another good reason to debunk this nonsense is that there are those who believe it. The ones who simply get scared and do nothing else are not really in trouble. The ones who get scared and take her advice are headed into real trouble. I speak of those who may sell their homes, stocks, belongings, etc. Close out their bank accounts, quit their jobs, and move into a hole somewhere on a mountain side. The ones who may react irrationally to this P.X. nonsense are the ones we hope find both sides of the story, and make up their own minds. Maybe we can keep someone from ruining his/her life.
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Not bad. May I quote you?WolfKC:
So yeah, we do spend a lot of time debunking, but there's a lot of bunk out there to debunk. And that doesn't mean we are being led, it means we are thinking logically.
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If TPTB control Nancy, then they're doing it with a random word generator. The hoax of a hoax of a hoax hoax is quite possibly the least interesting and entertaining notion going around about Nancy. I still have my money on "raving lunatic".
Though, I'm now interested in knowing whether you're just trolling again, HB, or if you actually have some notion for motivation behind TPTB for puppeteering Lieder into such a foolhardy light.
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Of course.
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Could I quote the both of you together? Never mind .. I think I just did..Of course.
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This is just too funny:
#-o
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/26726
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The disappeared moon of Mars?
Completely off topic, but I hope that this individual is not a native English speaker...
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If you read the rest of the message, you'll realize he's joking:This is just too funny:
#-o
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/26726
I am just
wondering where all those thick cables (made in USA, NASA production)
are coming from, and why they are connected to my little reflector
scope ... hnmmmmm, even my eclipse glasses are over-heavy with those
cables connected.
Everything I need to know I learned through Googling.
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Hello,
Well, quite the storm is happening on my Venus Transit Countdown thread at http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bb...&showdate=
Finally Nancy came into the thread, basically repeated SOHO claims, mentioned Global Quakes, and split. And I was *so* hoping she'd clarify a number of other positions...
Ah, well. I will be flying to Honolulu and the Bishop Museum to see a simul-broadcast of the transit tomorrow morning. However, that is made up for by the fact that the transit of 2012 will essentially be *above my house.* I'll be waiting for that one.
In the meantime; we'll see what *other* possible excuses the believers (if there are, indeed, more than one) can come up with. Reality420 just posted times of the Transit, which may be partially visible from Nancy's house...
I wonder if she'll look? If so, I can only hope she looked at the threads concerning eye protection and proper viewing techniques...
Let me know what you think,
Jonathan
-It doesn't matter what I believe. What matters is that the Venus Transit is going to utterly prove, as if we needed more, that the entire Solar System continues to behave as predicted. What fun will Zetatalk cook up next?-
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This seems to mark some sort of a divide in initial approach between you (Human Being) and some of the others on the BABB.
Most of us seem to take the approach of treating statements and questions at face value. That is, if someone makes a patently incorrect statement, we correct it to the best of our knowledge. This has the advantage of simplicity: we don't need to determine whether someone's being straight with us or trying some sort of bluff or double-bluff. If our correspondent then makes some statement about double meanings or hidden meanings, then s/he is the one with the burden of re-establishing his/her credibility.
For example, this person Aussie Bloke made some mention of the Crab Nebula hiding these comets. When someone called him on it, he said he really meant the Oort Cloud. Well, that's a significantly different object, and it sounds very much like he didn't really know what he was talking about.
You, OTOH, seem to treat everything you read as having some potential for hidden meaning (like the Wormwood project). The problem with that is that there are plenty of people who like to carry on at great length about stuff they know virtually nothing about. Unfortunately, even though their ignorance is plain to see, and easily proven, for those with a bit of subject matter knowledge, there are a lot of people out there who think they're fair dinkum, and give them unwarranted credit. They're the people we're trying to reach, despite the desperate efforts of some to not hear what we're telling them.
And trust me, in my line of work, I encounter plenty of people who think they know my job better than me. And they're WRONG! 8)
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In a post I made in this thread, I mentioned that sooner or later someone at GLP would claim that the transit of Venus would be faked with pictures from a previous transit of Mercury, and even warned on how illogical that would be. Guess what, I was WRONG AGAIN! It was actually worse than I thought! (not to mention that it was someone at TT)This is just too funny:
#-o
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/26726
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hmm Glad I checked in...............
Guess I got "led" back. Or was I bored? Curiousity got the better?
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I generally hold the theory that Nancy's just crazy, but things like this make me wonder.
How to improve your accuracy when posing as a well-nigh omniscient alien race:
Before whatever event: "We refuse to comment on this. But we know all about it. You'll see."
After the fact: "Blah blah blah [incomprehensible spin on totally unambiguous event]. See? We told you so."
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"Another good reason to debunk this nonsense is that there are those who believe it. The ones who simply get scared and do nothing else are not really in trouble. The ones who get scared and take her advice are headed into real trouble. I speak of those who may sell their homes, stocks, belongings, etc. Close out their bank accounts, quit their jobs, and move into a hole somewhere on a mountain side. The ones who may react irrationally to this P.X. nonsense are the ones we hope find both sides of the story, and make up their own minds. Maybe we can keep someone from ruining his/her life". =D>
I once posted to a believer that IF he truly beleived that all was happening as quoted by the Zetas and Nancy then he no longer needed to do anything rational, but if he continued to pay his mortgage, go to work, eat three a day, and carry on as usual, then he really didn't beleive. I would think the anonimity of the Internet gives a lot of folks the ability to say they beleive every word of the loonies, but in the end they go home, and do the same things we do for they know that it is absurd to do otherwise. I don't hear of Nancy and her minnions selling their stocks, quitting the Zeta talk site or dissappearing into the mountains until it is over. They continue to slave to the idea of making a buck, nothing more.
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"Because like tornadoes, PX is something we are supposed to LOVE each other about, help each other, etc." #-o
HUH????? This is a reply I got back from Zeta talk when I asked them why the ZETANs didn't just push PX out of it's trajectory to avoid Earth, as they convienently pushed Venus???? SHE is sad indeed.
Ya get the sense that she is running out of plausable answers? I also mentioned that she had run a brilliant business plan, generating income by her outlandishness, outright lies, and phony hoodoo pictures, to that there was no reply. At least it was a compliment. :-k
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Ya get the sense that she is running out of plausable answers?
No. She never had any plausible answers.
What she's running out of is the ability to form a coherent sentence.
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Perhaps what she means is that PX is supposed to bring us all together or some nonsense like that. You know, if there was a terrorist attack coming, and the Gov could stop it, but wouldn't on those grounds, there'd be hell to pay. But no, Nancy expects it to go over very well...
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