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    Back from the cooler.

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    Care! This is an imflammatory and aggrieved post!



    On a thread called "One of anything" a member changed another members original post, "for clarity".
    I protested and reported his action. This was the response from Moderator pzkpfw:
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    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Extrasolar Flapjacks View Post
    ... EDIT:

    Due to the confusion the original question has caused, here it is reworded for clarity ...
    Extrasolar Flapjacks, going back and editing the OP long after many replies have been made is bad form (even if your intent was to clarify the question). This is called "revisionism". Please read the rules.

    What you should have done, was make a new post; and the discussion could continue from that point with the reworded question.


    Quote Originally Posted by JohnD View Post
    The last resort of the argumentally challenged - they change the premise.
    John
    JohnD, that is rude, and you are lucky to not be infracted for it.
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    I protested again, and according to the rules. I reported this, asking why, when strange had broken the rules the response was to tell them not to, while I get threatened with penalties for pointing out his dubious debate tactics?
    I asked for the 'Committee of Moderators' to consider this.

    Next thing I know I banned for three days. No explanation, no charge, no indication of the offence or if anyone other than the moderator I quote above considered my plea. I realise that this is a dictatorship of moderators, but you might at least maintain a resemblence of legal process and democracy.

    John
    Last edited by pzkpfw; 2011-Mar-07 at 12:09 AM. Reason: Put proper quote tags in.

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    From the explanation given in the Banned posters thread, it looks like the reason why you got your infractions was because you did your protesting in-thread which is explicitly against the rules. Note incidentally that the existence of the linked post falsifies your claim about no explanation given.
    As for charge, your profile has a record of the infractions you've received, you should be able to see what happened there.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a moderator and do not speak for them, I'm only going by publicly available information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnD View Post
    On a thread called "One of anything" a member changed another members original post...
    No, the OP changed his own post to incorporate the rewording suggested by the member you are falsely accusing. You do not have the necessary permissions to change other members' posts. Neither does the member you accuse. I warn you not to repeat this accusation again.

    Next thing I know I banned for three days. No explanation, no charge, no indication of the offence or if anyone other than the moderator I quote above considered my plea. I realise that this is a dictatorship of moderators, but you might at least maintain a resemblence of legal process and democracy.
    Check your PM in-box. Every infraction is accompanied by a PM notification. I have reviewed the message sent to you and it does, in fact, contain an explanation of the infraction that resulted in your suspension.

    Prior to receiving that infraction, you received a detailed PM reply to your report explaining why your behavior was a problem, as well as an explanation that the member you accused could not have edited the OP's post.

    As for this thread, I've closed it. Even in the feedback forum, you are not to call out members by name to complain about their behavior, real or imagined. Discussions here must be kept general. If you have any further unresolved questions about rules, practices, or procedures, start a new thread but keep the names out of it.
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    Just to add to the above (covering 1: the infraction message you received, 2: the PM I sent you, and 3: the note in the banned/suspended members thread), you'll note that the very first reaction to the "event" was the warning you attempted to quote in the OP of this thread.

    The first part of my comment was: "Extrasolar Flapjacks, going back and editing the OP...".

    It should have been clear at that point who had edited the post. Why would I warn Extrasolar Flapjacks for someone else editing their thread?

    (Note also that (current) post #50 of that thread is Extrasolar Flapjacks apologising.)

    To be clear:

    Strange
    did
    not
    edit
    that
    post.

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