question about space as kind of fuel..

[icarus5]

ok i will try to ask my question ,hope it will be understanding since i am trying to bring new idea,and this is not so easy for understanding..

and my question is:
if object is staying at space on point let say x,can the point change the state,not the object,if the object is in very very high extream temperature such as biggest sun that alaw them even to use this space as a kind of fuel.

*sorry for my english,but i am realy try..so dont be hard with me...lol

cohen avshalom charly
israel/haifa
icarus5

[icarus5]

and hope this time i will make some speak with you,even that this is not some time hard for me..so let see what you can say.and please say somethings/
icarus5

[Hornblower]

and hope this time i will make some speak with you,even that this is not some time hard for me..so let see what you can say.and please say somethings/
icarus5

I don't understand the question. Are you asking whether or not a hot object can somehow extract energy from what appears to be empty space, and use it for propulsion?

[antoniseb]

... if object is staying at space on point let say x,can the point change the state,not the object,if the object is in very very high extream temperature such as biggest sun that alaw them even to use this space as a kind of fuel. ...

What you are asking about it an idea outside of established physics. When we know more about the nature of space itself better (something that may come from String Theory, or whatever theory finally gets worked out filling that niche in science), we might be able to answer with more certainty, but that day may be centuries from now.

[icarus5]

ok i speak a bout some differant kinds of area(space),such one kind is what i am calling as a format area (the area as what we are knwoing today as reglure space),and other kind is what i am calling not format area(those area i mean could been at area such as at the edge of the known universe and after that,but those area could not fullfill material,since they had not got process of format -->the area that will allow the area to consist material).

icarus5
*thanks for anser me/

[neilzero]

I don't understand either. Try again using different words. The edge of the known universe is about 13.7 billion lightyears away, so we would have to wait 13.7 billion years to get energy from the biggest sun there.
If the temperature is over about 3500 degrees c all known materials boil, so we can't support the magnets that produce the magnetic bottle for fusion, unless the fusion generator has dimensions of almost a light year for the biggest sun thought to be possible.
Your spot X is stationary with respect to something, perhaps Earth's surface or Centauri A Neil

[Jens]

I think the question is, can you burn space itself if you have a high enough temperature?

I think the answer is clearly no. Space itself is not something that can burn. It's like asking if you can burn time.

[CdrRogue]

I dunno, I find myself burning plenty of time on the internet. :-)

I wonder if dark energy could ever be utilised as an energy source, being that it accounts for what, 70% of the universe's total energy? If not that, maybe all these virtual particles that are popping up everywhere? Or what about all these cosmic rays and neutrinos that are passing through the planet every moment of every second? There's a lot of stuff right under our noses.

[Jeff Root]

Hello, icarus5!

Are you using the word "format" to mean like the part of a
computer disk which is formatted, as compared to the blank
part which is not formatted? If that is not what you meant,
I do not understand what you meant.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

[icarus5]

yes jeff i mean format area ,at the same way as the computer term ,and i say that area that has'nt go on such kind of process ,could not hold any material ,and i say also that if the universe has size let say x,at the edge you have a point -->when those 2 kind of area(the format area-and the not format area are meating),on those point you are getting by mix this 2 kind of space ,you get new enrgey by mixxing those to kind of area.
if you will look at picture on the cmr you will not see homogeneous picture or uniform temperature,else you will see like many point(diffrent temperature,that very close to 0 K),this is show that the mixxing of the 2 kind of area ->is also a process,that combine 2 kind of space.
and jens ,you right i say that iron /copper/ash-and all materiual change state at X temperature(this dependent of any material temerature),and at very high temerature also the spaec( that i call format space) are also are bornnig(but the result is not heat else magnetic ray),i also thinks that area that have super nova process are using space area formated as last reserve of fuel.and by this lost his space,that he can hold.
*last thinks at the edge of the universe(i thinks i mean after the universe) you dont have big sun(of course),else by my point of view you have area of space that i call not format area,and this area are not holding not material of energy(at list till they over process of formatting,and by this enter new enregy to the universe.
*last thinks i thinks the universe had began with complete zero M or E.
cohen avhslao, charly
icarus5

[icarus5]

ok and of course i forget to say that i look on the universe not as a close model,else as an open universe model.
icarus5

[antoniseb]

... on those point you are getting by mix this 2 kind of space ,you get new enrgey by mixxing those to kind of area. ...

Hi icarus5,
As I said before, what you are asking about is outside the area of known physics. So far as I know there is nothing in known physics to indicate that what you are discussing has any possibility of working. If you would like to compose more carefully a statement of what you mean, feel free to post it in the Against The Mainstream section of this forum. ... though I'm pretty sure that the lack of testability will result in few comments.

[icarus5]

that ok,i thinks i present my opinion,and yes this is of course new idea ,but after you will thinks about this in the four or five time ,you may take some of my idea as possible,even that this is against the mainstream still that why we have forum,and this is to present ideas ,and what people have on there head.
cohen avshalom charly
israel/haifa
icarus5

[icarus5]

and sorry i forget i dont hide after the string theory,but yes i have probleam to explain terms as diffrent between space that hold the M and the E,and in the other way the E and the M-that can move ,people use to mix them toghter.(since this is hard to understand the diffrent betweeen those part.
icarus5

[Swift]

that ok,i thinks i present my opinion,and yes this is of course new idea ,but after you will thinks about this in the four or five time ,you may take some of my idea as possible,even that this is against the mainstream still that why we have forum,and this is to present ideas ,and what people have on there head.
cohen avshalom charly
israel/haifa
icarus5

That may be one reason for BAUT, but it is not the reason for Q&A. If you wish to continue to discuss your idea, start an ATM thread. This thread is closed.