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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo Kaplan View Post
    Sure -- coincidences happen all the time. Humans are good at pattern matching, so it's easy to fool yourself into thinking there's a deep significance to random occurrences.
    How about an extended moment of synchronicity? An event that continues over several hours?

    Have you ever tested your will power against another persons?

    Is this not a means to manifest reality as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Knots A Lot View Post
    Have you ever tested your will power against another persons?

    Is this not a means to manifest reality as well?
    Social reality is not the same as physical reality. We can sure influence our surroundings, even if it were only by a change in our neural structure, then go "butterfly effect" and it sure will have influenced something (even in the physical reality - eg a week later you might drop a glass you otherwise wouldn't have dropped). But this is different from a focused switching colours on a lamp by sheer willpower.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geo Kaplan
    I'm telling you, it's nanognomes all the way down.
    They're just a "front" for His noodly appendages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Knots A Lot View Post
    How about an extended moment of synchronicity? An event that continues over several hours?

    Have you ever tested your will power against another persons?

    Here's what well-designed studies have shown: The best explanation for the anecdotes you cite is that humans excel at extracting patterns from noise, even when there are no patterns to extract. Your brain is constantly looking for hits. Most of the time, it finds none, and the "event" goes unnoticed. But occasionally something happens -- the phone rings just after you had a feeling that your frail grandmother was ailing. The sad news arrives -- she has passed away. Aha! But what you have forgotten is that you have had this same feeling many times before. Without a "confirming" phone call, the feeling is quickly forgotten. Much superstitious silliness derives from this process of selectively remembering the hits and forgetting the misses.

    In high school, we had a random number generator (hard-wired; these were the old days, before personal computers). As an experiment in physics class, we tried to influence its mean value by thinking as a group. It was a wonderful lesson in statistics, the interpretation of data, and the power of wishful thinking.

    Is this not a means to manifest reality as well?
    It would be, if it worked. But experiments have stubbornly refused to confirm what woophiles want to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caveman1917 View Post
    They're just a "front" for His noodly appendages.
    I think that a comprehensive TOE will reveal the FSM to be composed of nanognomes.

    In any case, pasta be with you!
    Last edited by Geo Kaplan; 2010-Jun-16 at 06:02 AM. Reason: ETA benediction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Knots A Lot View Post
    Have you ever tested your will power against another persons?
    Yes, when I was a kid, after watching some movie, I played a game with a friend where I tried to stop his heard by willpower and tried to keep it going. Thankfully the experiment failed spectacularly.
    As above, so below

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    Geo,

    Whether i agree with the OP has nothing to do with how you have willfully confused the difference in realism between the microscopic the macroscopic levels. My statement that its reasonable to say we create reality during qm measurement/observation is perfectly accurate. If one did not make a measurement the quantum state remains as an abstract. Its that simple. Now if you are actually arguing for a realist interpretation such as De Broglie/Bohmian mechanics just say so. Are you? Because if you are seriously suggesting that there is now some consensus for realist interpretations then you are deluding yourself.

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    As the OP appears to have abandoned his or her claim and wandered off, and that the current discussion is discussion another's posters claims, this thread will have to be closed. Starmountainkid, if you would like to return and defend your claims within the remaining time, please feel free to report this post and it'll be reopened for you.
    "Words that make questions may not be questions at all."
    - Neil deGrasse Tyson, answering loaded question in ten words or less
    at a 2010 talk MCed by Stephen Colbert.

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