Jarrah White fan

[arch stanton]

Hi guys, long time lurker here.

I'm just letting you know that someone calling himself wwu777 has started a thread on the David Icke forum claiming his hero Jarrah White has 'owned' people such as Jay, Phil and others on the moon hoax theories. His thread is rather laughably called Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate.

He also says he will invite Jarrah himself along. I've seen in this thread that Jay issued a challenge for Jarrah to debate him on any moderated forum. Now I appreciate that the DI forum is obviously a woo woo forum but I assure you that the moderators there are generally sensible and fair-minded. So I'm wondering if anyone here is willing to take up the gauntlet if Jarrah does show up?

I hope this isn't seen as "stirring". It's just that one guy is presenting one side of the argument and claiming that the skeptics are afraid of this Jarrah. I just think it's only right that you guys at least know these claims are being made.

[captain swoop]

Didn't you die in the Civil War?

[LaurelHS]

Hi guys, long time lurker here.

I'm just letting you know that someone calling himself wwu777 has started a thread on the David Icke forum claiming his hero Jarrah White has 'owned' people such as Jay, Phil and others on the moon hoax theories. His thread is rather laughably called Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate.

He also says he will invite Jarrah himself along. I've seen in this thread that Jay issued a challenge for Jarrah to debate him on any moderated forum. Now I appreciate that the DI forum is obviously a woo woo forum but I assure you that the moderators there are generally sensible and fair-minded. So I'm wondering if anyone here is willing to take up the gauntlet if Jarrah does show up?

I hope this isn't seen as "stirring". It's just that one guy is presenting one side of the argument and claiming that the skeptics are afraid of this Jarrah. I just think it's only right that you guys at least know these claims are being made.

Jarrah did have a brief debate with Jay on an IMDB thread, but he abandoned it after a short time (Jarrah, not Jay). Someone with the name of Wwu777 posts on that board occasionally as well; they post a long-debunked claim, get debunked, ignore the debunking, and then show up later to post another long-debunked claim.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446557/.../133905495?p=1

I don't know if that link will work because you might have to be an IMDB member to read the thread, I'm not sure. But anyway, they did have a debate.

[JayUtah]

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Hi guys, long time lurker here.

Hi!

I'm just letting you know that someone calling himself wwu777 has started a thread on the David Icke forum claiming his hero Jarrah White has 'owned' people such as Jay, Phil and others on the moon hoax theories.

Both Jarrah and Wwu777 had their heads handed to them on the IMDB board, in a debate that Jarrah himself started and then abandoned. If Jarrah wants to talk to me directly, he knows how. As for Wwu777 himself, I'm not interested in debating people who present themselves as little more than Jarrah White fanboys. If they have something original to say, then they know where to find me. It's not as if I'm in hiding.

[R.A.F.]

...someone calling himself wwu777 has started a thread on the David Icke forum claiming his hero Jarrah White has 'owned' people such as Jay, Phil and others on the moon hoax theories.

Haven't seen that on this board...I wonder why Jarrah can't come here to debate his Apollo hoax ideas??

[Halcyon Dayz]

Hi guys, long time lurker here.

I'm just letting you know that someone calling himself wwu777 has started a thread on the David Icke forum claiming his hero Jarrah White has 'owned' people such as Jay, Phil and others on the moon hoax theories. His thread is rather laughably called Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate.

wuwu777 crossposted the exact same thing on abovetopsecret and godlikeproductions.

Very busy fanboi that.

[Geo Kaplan]

wuwu777 crossposted the exact same thing on abovetopsecret and godlikeproductions.

Very busy fanboi that.

In hastily reading your post, I mistook "crossposted" as "composted."

[Skyfire]

In hastily reading your post, I mistook "crossposted" as "composted."

Funny thing that! The words 'minds', 'great', 'alike' and 'think' seem to spring to mind! (although whether mine is 'great' is debatable!)

[Paul Beardsley]

I'm just letting you know that someone calling himself wwu777 has started a thread on the David Icke forum claiming his hero Jarrah White has 'owned' people such as Jay, Phil and others on the moon hoax theories. His thread is rather laughably called Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate.

Hi arch stanton. Welcome to BAUT!

I had a quick look at the site. I take it you're dreamweaver?

I also had a look at the "genius's" first video - the one about the flag that moved during the Apollo 15 mission when Scott walked past it. A few things struck me about it:

A whole 30 seconds (of a 9 minute 39 second video) is devoted to the "genius" posing about pretending to be James Bond. I think you have to sit through this in all his videos.

White attempts a "scientific" investigation. This consists of rubbing a balloon on his hair and holding it near a flag he has set up. The flag is not drawn towards the balloon, thus "proving" the Apollo 15 flag was not drawn towards a statically charged Scott. But no indication is given as to whether the flag in the video is made of the same material as the one on the moon.

White further argues that if static electricity was the correct explanation, the flag would have been pulled towards Scott initially, not away, ignoring the possibility that the flag itself might have had a like charge.

Whilst granting that static electricity probably isn't the explanation, White chooses to ignore the other five possible explanations listed.

White goes on to run past his "laboratory conditions" flag several times, demonstrating that the breeze he makes causes the flag to move. However, he fails to note that the flag on the moon continues to swing for some time, whereas the flag on Earth is quickly damped down by something - air, perhaps?

In conclusion, then - interesting for a quick look, but I think I'll leave the Eicke people to their alternate (ive to) reality.

[R.A.F.]

...I appreciate that the DI forum is obviously a woo woo forum but I assure you that the moderators there are generally sensible and fair-minded.

While this might be true, I've just read a really disgusting post in that thread. If that kind of behavior is allowed, then I see no reason why anyone here would want to post there.

[JayUtah]

While this might be true, I've just read a really disgusting post in that thread. If that kind of behavior is allowed, then I see no reason why anyone here would want to post there.

The whole point of moderation is to keep Jarrah's foul mouth and abrasive personality in check. Apparently he posted one of his characteristically foul posts to IMDB during our debate. I didn't get to read it before the moderators deleted it, but those who did summarized its tone. And naturally Jarrah got up in arms about "censorship."

I haven't read the David Icke thread so I don't know or care what they're saying over there. But yes, if they can't manage a civil debate then I have no interest. I have a low tolerance for puerility.

[ToSeek]

Posts moved from this thread since they're on a separate topic. If any of these posts belong on the original thread, or vice versa, please report them.

[Gillianren]

It's funny to me how some people expect to be chased all over the internet to discuss something. We had someone over on Apollo Hoax a bit ago who complained about the moderation, which is much looser than here, and demanded that, if we wanted to talk to him, we go to some other forum to do so. What's the point? They know where we hang out, and if they want to talk to us, isn't it their job to come looking? I have yet to find anyone who argues for Apollo who cares enough about any HB to go tracking them down and demand a debate.

[LaurelHS]

It's funny to me how some people expect to be chased all over the internet to discuss something. We had someone over on Apollo Hoax a bit ago who complained about the moderation, which is much looser than here, and demanded that, if we wanted to talk to him, we go to some other forum to do so. What's the point? They know where we hang out, and if they want to talk to us, isn't it there job to come looking? I have yet to find anyone who argues for Apollo who cares enough about any HB to go tracking them down and demand a debate.

If you're thinking about the same user I am, they wanted everyone to go to another forum that you couldn't even read unless you were registered. They said the other forum was "more open," but that didn't really make sense because anyone can read Apollo Hoax without registering (registration is only required to post). This kind of thing gives new meaning to the legal expression "forum shopping."

[Garrison]

It's funny to me how some people expect to be chased all over the internet to discuss something. We had someone over on Apollo Hoax a bit ago who complained about the moderation, which is much looser than here, and demanded that, if we wanted to talk to him, we go to some other forum to do so. What's the point? They know where we hang out, and if they want to talk to us, isn't it there job to come looking? I have yet to find anyone who argues for Apollo who cares enough about any HB to go tracking them down and demand a debate.

I remember that person, kept complaining about the moderation even though no action had been taken against them and none of their posts had been touched.

[CJSF]

...isn't it there job to come looking? I have yet to find anyone who argues for Apollo who cares enough about any HB to go tracking them down and demand a debate.

Did you mean "their?" Do I get a shirt?
CJSF

***blast.. beaten to it!***

[kleindoofy]

... I have yet to find anyone who argues for Apollo who cares enough about any HB to go tracking them down and demand a debate.

It's the crackpots who feel the need to be missionaries.

The truth doesn't have to be sold door to door. No matter how much garbage is loaded onto it, it always comes out clean in the end and sells itself without having to be advertized.

And it's free.

Btw, I think a "debate" isn't what they want. Real debates are two sided.

[Donnie B.]

It was a case of preemptive well-poisoning.

And I want an "I corrected Gillianren's grammar" T-shirt (should be "their", not "there").

[Maybe that T-shirt should spell it "grammer" for the ironic touch.]

[Gillianren]

Yes, thank you both. I'll fix it. I blame the moderate depression combined with an antibiotic that makes me nauseated unless I eat every time I take it, when eating in the morning also makes me feel a little ill.

[LaurelHS]

Yes, thank you both. I'll fix it. I blame the moderate depression combined with an antibiotic that makes me nauseated unless I eat every time I take it, when eating in the morning also makes me feel a little ill.

I hope you feel better soon. Nausea is a common side effect of antibiotics, but it's certainly unpleasant.

[Jim]

Yes, thank you both. I'll fix it. I blame the moderate ...

Y'know, I just hate it when Members try to blame all their problems on the Moderators. It's not because of anything we...

Oh. Uh. Never mind.

[Gillianren]

Y'know, I just hate it when Members try to blame all their problems on the Moderators. It's not because of anything we...

Oh. Uh. Never mind.

Why do you think I don't want to be one?

I have just over a week left on the antibiotics. It's my refill, which puts me at over a month on the things, but even though I'm pretty much feeling better, I'm not going to stop taking them until I'm out.

[Tomblvd]

There is nothing Jarrah White wants to do less than discuss the Apollo Hoax on any forum where he can be questioned directly. "Argument by Youtube" is the favorite mode of debate by those who cannot easily answer questions asked of them. They can merely wait for things to die down, then post another video, ignoring the original topic.

The only thing worse is using Youtube videos as your primary means of debate, as wwu777 does. I have yet to see an original thought come from him/her, only "well, look at this video then".

Argument via youtube should be banned.

[Grashtel]

Argument via youtube should be banned.

Well it is for BAUT, unfortunately the various conspiracy loons tend not to manage to stick around for very long.

[Tomblvd]

Well it is for BAUT, unfortunately the various conspiracy loons tend not to manage to stick around for very long.

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of being codified. Perhaps included in the list of logical fallacies.

Argumentum ad Youtubus

Heh, I'm claiming that one.

[kleindoofy]

... Argumentum ad Youtubus

Heh, I'm claiming that one.

Then Argumentum ad Youtubum, please.

[Tomblvd]

Then Argumentum ad Youtubum, please.

I knew somebody would come along and correct my declensions.

You aren't a nun, are you?

Nah, you didn't smack me on the back of my head....

[vonmazur]

Guys: The one nice thing about working in a Gun Shop is, we can refuse to sell a weapon for any reason, without recourse....Lately we had a 911/Moon Landing Conspiracy/Alex Jones/David Icke/NWO etc... guys wander in....It was fun to examine him like a Jesuit Inquisitor, and refuse to sell.....I just told him to take it up with the BATF&E, and be sure to bring all the materials he showed me with him....Under the 1986 revision to the 1968 law, dealers may refuse for any reason, but we have to be able to come up with something if necessary....I made notes....

Dale

[aerovoid]

Hi guys, long time lurker here.
His thread is rather laughably called Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate.

WWu777 has started a thread with the exact same name on ATS.com here. I find it sad how many people are gobbling this stuff up, thinking it's great.

I guess Jarrah is desperate for attention and got his biggest fan to spam some forums

[Bozola]

I guess Jarrah is desperate for attention and got his biggest fan to spam some forums

There's no such thing as bad publicity when you've got something to sell/promote...