Because Death simply isn't going to come soon enough for some people...

[AKONI]

http://sandboxworld.com/wp-content/u...09/08/kfc1.jpg

The KFC Double Down, which launches Monday, is essentially a sandwich with two chicken filets taking the place of bread slices. In between are two pieces of bacon, melted slices of Monterey Jack and Pepper Jack cheese and a zesty sauce

Link...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...QJAwgD9EVO4I02


This thing also has 1,380 milligrams of sodium. We're supposed to eat less than 1,500 milligrams of sodium per day. It's also got half of the fat we're supposed to have in an entire day.


I think it's great that we have so much food here in the United States, but do we have to eat it all at once?

[Swift]

You want fries with that?

[99gecko]

For those that don't like chicken:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon_Explosion

[Dgennero]

I don't know if I'd *want* to live particularly long if I'd have to do with just 1.5 grams of Sodium a day!
I am a salt nut - and am maybe fortunate to have habitually low blood pressure.
Or does salt cause harm other than raising blood pressure?

[SkepticJ]

The mistake people make is eating food like that all the time. There's nothing wrong with eating one once in a while.

[NEOWatcher]

I am a salt nut - and am maybe fortunate to have habitually low blood pressure.

Yes; fortunate. Depending on your age, activity level and liquid intake, you may be living on borrowed time.

Or does salt cause harm other than raising blood pressure?

Some cancers (doesn't everything?), and kidney disease.

And don't forget, it's not just salt, but a lot of sodium compounds that are in our diet.

[grant hutchison]

I think the jury is still out on a causal link between dietary salt and cancer. There's a correlation, but high dietary salt is a marker for the ingestion of all sorts of other chemicals from heavily processed foods. In the absence of a clear mechanism by which salt might disrupt DNA replication, it seems more likely that we're seeing a confounding effect from dietary choice generally.

Grant Hutchison

[Kaptain K]

Can't be any worse than "Chicken Fried Bacon* " served at some restaurants around here.

* A slab of sliced bacon, battered and deep fried.

[NEOWatcher]

Can't be any worse than "Chicken Fried Bacon* " served at some restaurants around here.

I wasn't sure if it was individual by strips, or the slab of strips, so I looked it up.
No worse than pork rinds I suppose... But; of course we all know how bad pork rinds are.

It definitely looks unhealthy in this picture.
And I like this quote...

"They've taken fat, they've double-coated it in fat, they've fried it in more fat, and then they've served it with a side order of fat."

[TheHalcyonYear]

You want fries with that?

Absolutely!! Make that a supersize fries and a large coke!! That looks amazingly good!!

[Swift]

Absolutely!! Make that a supersize fries and a large coke!! That looks amazingly good!!

I assume a diet coke.

For dessert, we have our chocolate cheesecake Oreo. We take two slices of chocolate cheesecake, which we use as the cookie parts of an Oreo cookie, and between them we put Oreo cookie filling.

[PraedSt]

Who thinks we should have a "fat tax"?

[AndreasJ]

Gah. This thread inspired me to look around in the kitchen to see how much salt there's in everything. 'Twas scary, and I'm not that heavy a consumer of processed food (the chief sin being bread, I suppose, of which I eat lots).

One thing tho - some products list the natrium content and some the salt content; what proportion between them should one assume? Does the "salt" content listed refer to pure NaCl, or to an equivalent weight of table salt (which would be more or less hydrated)?

[grant hutchison]

One thing tho - some products list the natrium content and some the salt content; what proportion between them should one assume? Does the "salt" content listed refer to pure NaCl, or to an equivalent weight of table salt (which would be more or less hydrated)?

"Natrium" (Na) is just sodium: present as NaCl (table salt) but also in other forms. Sodium is about 40% of sodium chloride, by weight, but one would need to know in what other forms the Na was present.

Grant Hutchison

[AndreasJ]

"Natrium" (Na) is just sodium

I know what natrium is. What I apparently cannot get to stick in my brain is that the stuff's called "sodium" in English. I have the same problem with "potassium" - I keep saying kalium. I guess I should just stick to the chemical symbols when speaking or writing in English.

present as NaCl (table salt) but also in other forms. Sodium is about 40% of sodium chloride, by weight, but one would need to know in what other forms the Na was present.

Yeah, but how pure NaCl is the "salt" refered to in the ingredient lists? Real table salt, esp. if it's actually spend some time on the table, contains some water, and other sorts of salt contain various other cations.

(I realize this is pretty academic when one takes other sources of variation, such as slight inconistencies in processing, into account, but I'm curious nevertheless.)

[MAPNUT]

It definitely looks unhealthy in this picture.

That's just because they haven't drained it yet!

Wow, I never knew some folks call sodium "Natrium". Do you pronounce salt "nackle"?

[AndreasJ]

Wow, I never knew some folks call sodium "Natrium". Do you pronounce salt "nackle"?

Huh? "Natrium" happens to be the element's name in a good number of languages, including my native Swedish - the word cames from natron, from which substance the element can be isolated.

Salt is salt in Swedish, where the 'a' sounds pretty much like a Spanish 'a'.

[grant hutchison]

I know what natrium is.

My apologies. I misinterpreted your post: I thought you were using "natrium" for NaCl and asking whether "salt" was also NaCl, or some hydrated version.

For dietary guidance purposes, "salt" = NaCl.

Grant Hutchison

[Kaptain K]

Who thinks we should have a "fat tax"?

Everyone who isn't!

[AndreasJ]

For dietary guidance purposes, "salt" = NaCl.

Thank you.

[Strange]

The mistake people make is eating food like that all the time. There's nothing wrong with eating one once in a while.

Yeah, I couldn't eat more than one a day...

[Frog march]

I assume a diet coke.

For dessert, we have our chocolate cheesecake Oreo. We take two slices of chocolate cheesecake, which we use as the cookie parts of an Oreo cookie, and between them we put Oreo cookie filling.

I hope they have wafers, for after.

[SkepticJ]

Who thinks we should have a "fat tax"?

Depends on how fat.

If they look like Vladimir Harkonnen, most certainly.

[mike alexander]

In summer they will be introducing the Double Double Down, a Double Down that is wrapped in bacon, battered and deep fried.

Slogan: "Bring 'em on!"

In blue districts they will offer a sandwich of soy bacon between slices of extra-firm tofu, known as the Watership Down.

[TheHalcyonYear]

Who thinks we should have a "fat tax"?

Don't get me started.

How does one compute "fat" vs. "normal weight". The average weight for an individual say (for the same of argument) 5'9" tall varies according gender, bone structure, genetic heritage, etc. I once worked for someone who could eat a meal like the "KFC Double Down" and still look anorexic. I have also known friends who could eat very reasonable, healthy diets and look a bit overweight. Then, according to medical studies, there are those some, considered over weight these days by our society, who are simply designed, based on bone structure and other factors, to be the weight they are.

So, how does one determine the "fat" that should be taxed.

[Strange]

Of course, don't forget, in Scotland this would be battered and deep fried before serving.

[Bluevision]

The mistake people make is eating food like that all the time. There's nothing wrong with eating one once in a while.

I dunno, I just don't see the pleasure of eating something like that. Perhaps an ice cream sundae or confectionary delight, but I don't understand the pleasure of eating a giant ball of meat and grease.

EDIT: Fat tax sounds kind of stupid. Just regulate health levels in foods (especially fast foods.) Do a better job of educating people on the dangers of unhealthy food and how to eat properly. Just top it off with programs to get people and kids active and bam, no more fat people.

Though I was playing a casual game of CS and somehow the topic of conversation came to using human fat from liposuction to power cars. Unfeasible, if you ask me

[kleindoofy]

I see a marketing chance: the LardBar.

Take 400g of lard, press it into the shape of a chocolate bar, dip it in hot cocolate, cover it with nuts, and call it "LardBar - the KFC Double Down dessert."

I'll put money on the table that (certain) people would eat it, enjoy it, and come back for a second one - covered with a thick layer of butter.

[John Jaksich]

I see a marketing chance: the LardBar.

Take 400g of lard, press it into the shape of a chocolate bar, dip it in hot cocolate, cover it with nuts, and call it "LardBar - the KFC Double Down dessert."

I'll put money on the table that (certain) people would eat it, enjoy it, and come back for a second one - covered with a thick layer of butter.

Although I do not eat KFC---that is sick.

[Atraveller]

EDIT: Fat tax sounds kind of stupid. Just regulate health levels in foods (especially fast foods.) Do a better job of educating people on the dangers of unhealthy food and how to eat properly. Just top it off with programs to get people and kids active and bam, no more fat people.

Australian take on Fat Tax: (background - they are raising the price of cigarettes here to about $20 a pack. This has two benefits; people are encouraged to stop smoking because it is so expensive, and the extra revenue is put into the health system to offset the cost of treating smokers - Australia has social medicine.) A study has concluded that a extra tax should be applied to restaurants and food outlets that sell high fat foods. This will emulate the effects of the cigarette tax - you will eat high fat foods less, and the extra revenue goes to the hospital that has to treat you when you get sick...

I would guess the KFC double down would incur a $20 per serving tax...