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RAF_Blackace
2009-Jun-20, 12:16 AM
A story about not talking about what you do to others.

Just to clarify because some are getting confused. I used to work for Marchwood Research Laboratories (Gov Owned) near Southampton. Here I did work on reactor robotic and welding systems.

Then I joined Scientific Services (Gov Owned) based at Gravesend Kent, a small select group dedicated to inspecting and repairing reactors for the NII.

Then I joined a private company called Taylor Hitec who specialised in Nuclear work and MOD work.

OK, I got that out of the way.

This happened whilst working for Scientific Services.

Many people sign the official secrets act, once you do you say nothing to no one about what you do. We were told never to tell anyone in idle conversation about the job we did. At that time (I know it sounds a bit paranoid) people WERE out to get us. Greenpeace was still a very militant organisation and several incidents had happened that meant we genuinely had to be careful who we talked to.

The closest I ever came to being threatened was the time a man I had never met before came up to me while I was having a drink at a local bar. He engaged in idle conversation and eventually asked me what I did for a living. I told him I was an engineer.

He turned on me and said. "Don't lie to me, we know who you are and what you do, and now we know where you live." He then left the bar without saying anything else. Nothing came of the incident although I did report it to the authorities.

One day we were sitting having a morning tea at work. Someone mentioned a TV program that was being shown that evening, it was a supposed expose' of the Nuclear industry and was going to reveal leaked documents that proved that many of the reactors in the UK were unsafe. Of course we all were interested in watching this program. It was on ITV and it was called Public Eye, a very popular program at the time.

I went home, sat down and waited for the program to start. "Tonight we are going to show information prooving the dangers of the UK nuclear industry....Leaked documents....

At this moment the front page of the so called leaked document appeared onscreen. My jaw hit the floor, at the bottom of the front page I could quite clearly see the signatures of the 14 members of our team, including mine.

On arrival at work the next morning we were greeted by police officers, kept apart from each other and interviewed by (they never said they were but I am sure it was) MI5. It was I may say a very harsh interview, I knew I had done nothing wrong but they almost had me convinced I was a traitor.

After the interview we were sent home and told not to contact anyone.

The mole was found. He was the son of the manager of the department. His father was not aware that his son had joined greenpeace. His father had left his briefcase open at home and his son had found the document and had passed it on to either greenpeace or the TV company direct.

He did his father a great favour, he was dismissed for allowing this to happen.

Luckily this was the only security incident we had.

I know greenpeace does a lot of good work these days and is not the militant organisation it was then, I support some of what they do, although I still have reservations about a lot of their work and still have mistrust because of my brushes with them in the past.

Ara Pacis
2009-Jun-20, 01:43 AM
Are those the people chasing down whaling ships? I understand advocating safety, but irrational fearmongering gets annoying.

sarongsong
2009-Jun-20, 01:58 AM
...some are getting confused...Not at all; you're writing your autobiography here on BAUT. :whistle:

RAF_Blackace
2009-Jun-20, 05:51 PM
Not at all; you're writing your autobiography here on BAUT. :whistle:

Oh dear. Is it really that obvious. :)

sarongong, you have a very good perception.

I actually had an idea. I could type them up and put these stories on BAUT as no one seemed to object. The guys here could correct me on any facts I forgot about (like the war) and then when I get my Blog up and running in a few weeks time I can cut and paste them to there.

Anyway, I think I am done for a while. I hope no one minded me posting them here and I hope they were of interest to some at least.

Paul Beardsley
2009-Jun-20, 06:07 PM
Just to make things a bit banal and irritating...

Back in 1988, I started working for Marconi, and so I signed the official secrets act. I was quite chuffed about this, and happily told my girlfriend at the time - after all, you didn't have to keep the fact that you've signed secret.

Then a few days later a friend told me that a couple we all knew had just got engaged. Shortly afterwards I happened to bump into the couple. When I saw them, I congratulated them on their engagement. They were a bit embarrassed.

I found out later that their engagement was supposed to be secret, and the person who told me was not meant to tell anyone. (Pretty immature behaviour for a couple about to share their lives - it's not as if anybody disapproved.)

But what really annoyed me - and still does if I think about it - was my then-girlfriend's reaction. Which consisted of telling everybody, "Paul's signed the official secrets act, yet he blurted out the fact that he knew X and y had got engaged!" Yeah, like I was supposed to assume they'd kept it secret.

RAF Blackace - I don't think anybody is going to object to you telling stories if they're interesting. (More interesting than this one, anyway!)

RAF_Blackace
2009-Jun-21, 12:57 AM
Showboat, men in white coats are coming for you right now, just relax.

showboat
2009-Jun-21, 02:19 AM
Showboat, men in white coats are coming for you right now, just relax.

Actually a very relaxing response.

So you will never know what I could have said.

mike alexander
2009-Jun-21, 02:34 AM
Those Official Secrets are wonderful things

Quite useful for beating one round 'bout the head

They bind people up in invisible strings

And offer excuses when you are found dead

PetersCreek
2009-Jun-21, 03:56 AM
Showboat, men in white coats are coming for you right now, just relax.

This is no more appropriate than the deleted posts. Please do not question, make sport of, or speculate about another member's mental health.

sarongsong
2009-Jun-21, 07:50 AM
...I actually had an idea. I could type them up and put these stories on BAUT...The guys here could correct me on any facts...and then when I get my Blog up and running in a few weeks time I can cut and paste them to there...Ah, cool! :)
You might want to check out some of BigDon (http://www.bautforum.com/search.php?searchid=1223138)'s gems he regaled us with before your Join Date.

mfumbesi
2009-Jun-22, 10:45 AM
Interesting read.
I'm not saying who I'm working for and who I've worked for and what I did as I think I'm still binded by the "secret handshake".

Ara Pacis
2009-Jun-22, 05:28 PM
Interesting read.
I'm not saying who I'm working for and who I've worked for and what I did as I think I'm still binded by the "secret handshake".

Sounds like secret society stuff instead of government secrets.