Information Versus The Schwarzschild Horizon

[BillyG]

I seem to remember something about Steven Hawking ruminating as to whether or not (data ?) information would survive an encounter with a black hole.

If you remember Warner Brothers' "Sphere", their interpetation of Michael Crighton's story of a Space/Timeship that materialized under the Pacific Ocean embedded in a rock due to a navigation error..

I worked on building the set for this movie and in the pilot house of the subject vehicle we constructed something called the "Temporal Diffusion Palette". This instrument gave the dematerialized humans a reference point to use to regain their bodies after a wormhole journey.

Highly fictional, of course, but if data in some currently unknown quantum form could be rendered survivable in such a transit then reconstruction of the entire structure of a vessel and its inhabitants becomes more plausible.

So who knows what the current take is on information in a black hole?

Now that they seem to have confirmed evidence that one is the center of our galaxy, after we get done ruining Mars, let's go check it out. All we need are the right tools....(ahem):wall:

[BillyG]

OK, so I misspelled Schwarzschild in the thread title.
Could someone please tell me how to correct it?
I tried ... I realy tried to figure it out...

[PetersCreek]

Fixed it for ya.

[BillyG]

Gracias!
OK, you're holding-out...How'ja do it?

[Gillianren]

He's a moderator. Only mods can change thread titles.

[BillyG]

Ah-ha.

So what about information enduring a singularity? I would suppose that any physical storage system would collapse so the problem is maybe not the information in and of itself, but the means to contain it.
I have heard reference to black holes "spewing-out matter" on a galactic scale so if they spew it out, it must be coming from 'somewhere'.

So have I lost my mind yet again?

[01101001]

So have I lost my mind yet again?

What's the context here? Do you have some Against-the-Mainstream theory to promote?

Or are you just looking for references on the material?

Probably as current as anything is Wikipedia: Black hole information paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_information_paradox)


The black hole information paradox results from the combination of quantum mechanics and general relativity. It suggests that physical information could "disappear" in a black hole. It is a contentious subject since it violates a commonly assumed tenet of science—that information cannot be destroyed.

Wikipedia: Thorne-Hawking-Preskill bet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorne-Hawking-Preskill_bet) might contain more definitive views, as it's about the important bet, and pride, and encyclopedia sets.


As of 2008, Hawking's argument that he has solved the paradox has not yet been accepted by the community, and a consensus has not yet been reached that Hawking has provided a strong enough argument that this is in fact what happens.