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toothdust
2008-Jul-12, 06:54 PM
Had a thought earlier on long distance travel shortcuts through space in the probably nearer future than we think.

You have a Ship at point A, out past Pluto or further, for safety's sake. You want to get to Alpha Centauri, point B. Lets say that with an as yet undeveloped technology you open a large enough black hole to significantly bend a large amount of space.

In theory, if you could gain enough speed, the closer you got to light speed, the closer you could skirt the event horizon.

Now for someone who knows the math, viewing space on the interconnected quantum membrane, would this "pull in" enough space to significantly lower the distance traveled to point B, using the slingshot of the gravity to guide you around the curve?

Glom
2008-Jul-12, 06:58 PM
Hmm. I don't know if it works like that. If you try to travel through the compressed space, wouldn't you be compressed as well? Sounds simpler just to travel at relativistic speeds and let length contraction do the job. Of course, it will put you way out of synch with home, but hey, that's interstellar travel for ya.

antoniseb
2008-Jul-12, 07:00 PM
Lets say that with an as yet undeveloped technology you open a large enough black hole to significantly bend a large amount of space....would this "pull in" enough space to significantly lower the distance traveled to point B

I suppose to actually answer this I'd have to know what it means to 'open a black hole'.

toothdust
2008-Jul-12, 07:53 PM
The point I meant is that we have to not think of what is possible this very second technology wise, but what will be possible in 30, 50, 100 years. At the rate of what we are discovering about gravity, the quantum world, and physics in general, I can see something like this happening, and probably in my lifetime.

Anyways, I was merely posing a hypothetical question to get people thinking and to receive some answers myself. Maybe rephrase that to 'create a dense gravitational object or mass with significant density to affect and compress a large volume of space.

Think outside the box!

Glom
2008-Jul-12, 08:33 PM
The point I meant is that we have to not think of what is possible this very second technology wise, but what will be possible in 30, 50, 100 years. At the rate of what we are discovering about gravity, the quantum world, and physics in general, I can see something like this happening, and probably in my lifetime.

Well they are going to create a black hole at CERN which will destroy the world. Though that also renders your original question academic.


Anyways, I was merely posing a hypothetical question to get people thinking and to receive some answers myself. Maybe rephrase that to 'create a dense gravitational object or mass with significant density to affect and compress a large volume of space.

Think outside the box!

The whole proposition seems to rest on the assumption that the spacecraft would be able to transit this region uncompressed.

Tensor
2008-Jul-13, 01:21 AM
I suppose to actually answer this I'd have to know what it means to 'open a black hole'.

Not to mention the exact defintion of an "interconnected quantum membrane".