UFO Hunters, on whatever channel it's on

[vorblesnak]

I don't know, they seemed to fill an hour of time with five minutes of content. They found a rock they didn't recognize, pieces of an old B25 and made thermite. Did anyone else see this bit of tripe?

David Davis
Toledo, OR 97391

[NEOWatcher]

I don't know, they seemed to fill an hour of time with five minutes of content. They found a rock they didn't recognize, pieces of an old B25 and made thermite. Did anyone else see this bit of tripe?
I saw bits and pieces. And, I don't agree with you, because I actually like tripe soup ;)

Why would an expert in ground radar not expect the conditions to be bad? Oh yeah, so they could film something.

They were amazed that the pieces of wreckage were actually pieces of a plane. :rolleyes:

I watched a taped "Universe" yesterday, and every commercial break was advertising that stupid show.

[KaiYeves]

I watched a taped "Universe" yesterday, and every commercial break was advertising that stupid show.
Such is the wide expanse of Humanity's Creative Works.

[Abbadon_2008]

I didn't like the ep I saw. This involved the UFO that dropped hot slag on a fishing boat, and then crashed somewhere in the woods.

The 'investigative' team came with up some truly remarkable and ludicrous conclusions based on some seriously haphazard detective work.

I was with them until they started collecting rocks from the 'hot slag drop' site. The diver picked up a shiny black rock and said 'Oh, that looks metallic. So this must be from the UFO'

What? It's a rock, man! :doh:

At least get it tested before you start assuming it's from a Xandravian scout ship!

And then it was downhill from there. Some guy with a blowtorch starts talking about how the slag had a strong magnetic field that could've interfered with the B-25's electronics during transport. Well, maybe it could. But how do you explain WHITE HOT SLAG being loaded aboard an aircraft, and starting a fire?

That's ridiculous!

The plane caught fire and crashed. Period. There's no more data upon which to base any theory involving ETs. Cold slag isn't white hot, and wouldn't burn up the plane. And there's no reason for cold slag to suddenly reignite and torch the plane. If the magnetic field was screwing with the on-board systems, they would've left it on the ground. NOT load it aboard a plane. The military had radios RADAR, and vehicles, all of which would have been effected if the magnetic field was that pervasive.

It's just plain hokey! Even basic knowledge of science would have dismissed their conclusions.

[KaiYeves]

The diver picked up a shiny black rock and said 'Oh, that looks metallic. So this must be from the UFO'
What? It's a rock, man!
At least get it tested before you start assuming it's from a Xandravian scout ship!
I've got shinny black rocks in my room! They're obsidian arrrowheads!
TV dudes just don't think.

[vonmazur]

Oi Veh!! this was a really annoying episode of non-sequiturs, and total lack of simple information about the B 25 Mitchell Bomber.....for one thing, it did not have swept wings and jet engines, like they showed in the intro, that was a Tupolev Badger.....If they can't get that right, then what else are they messing up??

Abba-don2008 has it exactly correct, when they got in the plane and found the mag compass inop, they would have shipped it by rail. The B 25 had some problems with engine fires, and other annoying faults, so they crashed a lot, especially war weary worn out aircraft in 1947.....IIRC, this incident has been thoroughly investigated before, and some of the actual supposed UFO Slag was tested in the past and found to be, well, SLAG....what a surprise!!

Some of the statements made about the crew members and what their duties were, and similar information was totally twisted, and typical of true believers...

Dale

[weatherc]

At least get it tested before you start assuming it's from a Xandravian scout ship!Now you're just being silly. Everyone knows that Xandravian scout ships are made using nanocrystalline carbon fiber, not metal!

[vonmazur]

What?? I thought they were made of paper and bamboo, and tin foil....

Dale

[Abbadon_2008]

Originally Posted by Abbadon_2008
At least get it tested before you start assuming it's from a Xandravian scout ship!



Now you're just being silly. Everyone knows that Xandravian scout ships are made using nanocrystalline carbon fiber, not metal!

But that's my point! Xandravians are way beyond naturally-occurring metal alloys! Next thing you know, somebody will find a rusty mattress spring, and think it's a quantum field induction coil...p-lease!:hand:


Oi Veh!! this was a really annoying episode of non-sequiturs, and total lack of simple information about the B 25 Mitchell Bomber.....for one thing, it did not have swept wings and jet engines, like they showed in the intro, that was a Tupolev Badger..

Dale

They used the Badger clip at least twice during the show. It looks NOTHING like a B-25.
B-25 http://img5.imagevenue.com/loc624/th_70454_b252_123_624lo.jpg (http://img5.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70454_b252_123_624lo.jpg) Tu-16 Badgerhttp://img31.imagevenue.com/loc956/th_70455_Tu16_Badger_123_956lo.jpg (http://img31.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70455_Tu16_Badger_123_956lo.jpg)








If they'd accidentally picked a clip of a British Halifax bomber, and mistook it for a B-24, I'd have cut them some slack.

Halifax http://img31.imagevenue.com/loc809/th_70461_halifax_123_809lo.jpg (http://img31.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70461_halifax_123_809lo.jpg) B-24http://img31.imagevenue.com/loc1034/th_70465_b2418_123_1034lo.jpg (http://img31.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70465_b2418_123_1034lo.jpg)

But the Badger? Not even Ray Charles would have made that mistake.:whistle:

[Brad_Smith]

I watched the Sc-Fi Channel's pilot of their "UFO Hunters." Nice team. They go in to debunk, sift thru the evidence. I thought they did a good job.

Haven't seen the other show however . . . .

[JustAFriend]

Its the same script as the Sci-Fi channels "Ghost Hunters" (where they go into rooms and go "wow can you feel that!")

Great journalism, if you get your news from the National Enquirer.....

Next it will be "Nessie Hunters" ---- "look a ripple in the water, it must be Nessie!"
Or "Parallel Universe Hunters" ----- "I could SWEAR I just felt a wormhole!"

.... looks like they went through college film courses watching "Blair Witch Project" and said "WE CAN DO THAT!"

[01101001]

Which channel is "UFO Hunters" on?

Depends.

American Chronicle: The Premier of 'UFO Hunters' -- Both of Them! (http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/51316)


[...] we have been graced with not one new addition to the airwaves, but two additions [...] Now if that wasn´t enough, they both have the same names, i.e., "UFO Hunters!"

Please clarify which one is the subject of your comments.

For instance:
Sci-Fi Channel's "UFO Hunters" is boring and stupid.
or
History Channel's "UFO Hunters" is stupid and boring.

[NEOWatcher]

...Next it will be "Nessie Hunters" ---- "look a ripple in the water, it must be Nessie!"...
Too late. Monster quest (http://www.bautforum.com/small-media-large/67601-history-channel-monster-quest-sasquash.html) on THC.

...Or "Parallel Universe Hunters" ----- "I could SWEAR I just felt a wormhole!"...
I'm worried that Universe is heading down that path. The SETI episode wasn't too bad, but it seems like they are starting to run out of ideas.

[Noclevername]

Such is the wide expanse of Humanity's Creative Works.

I'm not sure that seeing everything as evidence of UFO aliens is creative. More like stuck in a mental rut.

[KaiYeves]

I'm not sure that seeing everything as evidence of UFO aliens is creative. More like stuck in a mental rut.
I meant that The Universe and UFO Hunters are opposite ends of the creative spectrum.

[Lurking Nerd]

Here is the the description from Entertainment Weekly for UFO Hunters on the History channel.

"Same general idea as Ghost Hunters, but more suited to an audience put off by that show's occasional offers of proof."

Nerd

[Brad_Smith]

Its the same script as the Sci-Fi channels "Ghost Hunters" (where they go into rooms and go "wow can you feel that!")

Great journalism, if you get your news from the National Enquirer.....

Next it will be "Nessie Hunters" ---- "look a ripple in the water, it must be Nessie!"
Or "Parallel Universe Hunters" ----- "I could SWEAR I just felt a wormhole!"

.... looks like they went through college film courses watching "Blair Witch Project" and said "WE CAN DO THAT!"

SFC's show did a good amount of debunking in its first case; the second one was very interesting. Did you actually see it?

[Abbadon_2008]

Something like 'MonsterQuest' would be better if it had Mike Rowe from 'Dirty Jobs'.

His sense of humor would be RIOTOUS in these remote locations, in search of strange creatures.

[Noclevername]

Something like 'MonsterQuest' would be better if it had Mike Rowe from 'Dirty Jobs'.

His sense of humor would be RIOTOUS in these remote locations, in search of strange creatures.

Now there's a show I'd watch! How about "Spooky Jobs" as a title?

[KaiYeves]

How about "Spooky Jobs" as a title?
Yeah, he's used up most of the dirty stuff, now it's more like "Dangerous Jobs". A new show would be a good idea.

[Abbadon_2008]

Well, I saw the new ep of 'UFO Hunters' that involved the USO that shot down the Piper aircraft.

That was weak.

The witness/crash survivor was very convincing in his recounting of the experience. However, the next 40+ minutes were really dull and contrived.
Essentially, you had a guy who said he was shot down by an alien ship, and then they couldn't find the plane wreckage.

And....then what? Dr. Strange (the long-haired science guy) created an elaborate demonstration of some theory about how currents move objects underwater.

Really? Ocean currents really move objects that are lying on a a sloping shelf?
WOW! I never would've imagined that. I mean it's only been 30 years, right?

And then they started this 'X-Files' crap about alien underwater bases and all sorts of sinister conspiratorial nonsense that had me gritting my teeth and watching the clock.

[KaiYeves]

And....then what? Dr. Strange (the long-haired science guy) created an elaborate demonstration of some theory about how currents move objects underwater.
Dear me, I thought Dr. Strange was the Sorcerer Supreme of Earth. ;-)

[Noclevername]

Well, if I ever had planned to watch that show, that description made it absolutely certain now that I never will.

[Lianachan]

I've got shinny black rocks in my room! They're obsidian arrrowheads!



That [i]belongs in a museum!
[/Indiana Jones]

[KaiYeves]

[Indiana Jones]
That belongs in a museum!
[/Indiana Jones]
So says the guy who goes around stealing golden idols...
They weren't ancient, they were modern arrowheads being given out at a crafts fair on a nearby Reservation.

[Lianachan]

So says the guy who goes around stealing golden idols...
They weren't ancient, they were modern arrowheads being given out at a crafts fair on a nearby Reservation.

Golden idols for putting in a museum, yes!

:)

Given their nil antiquity, I'll let you off.... This time.

[KaiYeves]

Golden idols for putting in a museum, yes!
After you're removed them from the historical context, without bothering to document the site. Some archeologist.

[Fazor]

I saw this on one of the whatever channels (descriptive, I know)...and recalled that there were actually two different shows with this same name. I don't know which of the two I saw, but they were talking about USO's so probably the same as the above-referenced. Anyway the footage and narration was the same footage and narration from a show they use to constantly air about USO's...so after a minute and a half of "I've already seen this under a different name..." I turned it back off. It was boring rubbish then, and sounds like it's now...still boring rubbish.

[NEOWatcher]

...I don't know which of the two I saw, but they were talking about USO's so probably the same as the above-referenced. Anyway the footage and narration was the same...
Yep, I didn't see this one, but when USO came up, I was thinking it might be the same dribble that the History Channel did before.

I guess history does repeat itself.

[Lianachan]

After you're removed them from the historical context, without bothering to document the site. Some archeologist.

Perhaps my memory of the start of Raiders Of The Lost Ark is hazy, but I don't recall it being part of an organised dig. If people want to see actual archaeology, they can after all watch the less exciting (although frequently interesting) Time Team (which many of my friends have appeared on!).

[Gillianren]

Perhaps my memory of the start of Raiders Of The Lost Ark is hazy, but I don't recall it being part of an organised dig.

It isn't. Largely because, in Indy's world, there is seldom "digging" to be done. That golden idol is still in use by its creators. Though, of course, anything Indy does is spotless modern archaeology compared to a lot of his real-life predecessors. (I've got a friend who's an archaeologist, too. In fact, she trained in England--and Scotland!)

[HenrikOlsen]

*cough*Schliemann*cough*

[Dyxon]

Well, concerning UFO - recommend you this one. Made a serious response on Youtube few weeks ago. What a FAKE is it in real!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLRbTtd8IKM comment posted

[Gillianren]

*cough*Schliemann*cough*

For example--though at least he actually documented his dig with photographs, even though what he did to the site was pretty bad.

Welcome aboard, Dyxon! Read the rules and stay awhile.

[KaiYeves]

Who else saw that we have a banner for this show at the top of our log-in screen? Can we get a blocker for that or something?

[NEOWatcher]

Who else saw that we have a banner for this show at the top of our log-in screen? Can we get a blocker for that or something?
That's context sensitive advertising for ya... Talk about something stupid, and you get ads for something stupid. :D

Anyway, I don't get those (it has something to do with logging in)...but, I did get some chuckles from them when they were there.

[Elian Gonzales]

I agree with a previous poster about "The Universe." It seems to be running out of ideas, and I think an additional problem are the scientists they are using. While I am sure they are genial and bright people, Alex Filippenko's Roy Orbison routine was totally distracting (you're not a rock star, please take off the sunglasses) and Michio Kako just seems....kooky.

As for "UFO Hunters," ugh. Another stupid show with mostly non-scientists who think they are doing science by using the word "investigation."

[NEOWatcher]

I agree with a previous poster about "The Universe." It seems to be running out of ideas...
Wow; a first time post based on one of my comments... Thank you.

, and I think an additional problem are the scientists they are using...
I give them leeway in that department. Making a scientist and theoretical stuff as bizzare as some things that cosmology brings to the table would be very hard to present.

...and Michio Kako just seems....kooky.
That's what I like about him... he gets excited about what he's doing, and makes an attempt to popularize it.

But; I digress (OP-wise)... on with the show.

[HypothesisTesting]

I agree with a previous poster about "The Universe." It seems to be running out of ideas, and I think an additional problem are the scientists they are using. While I am sure they are genial and bright people, Alex Filippenko's Roy Orbison routine was totally distracting (you're not a rock star, please take off the sunglasses) and Michio Kako just seems....kooky.

As for "UFO Hunters," ugh. Another stupid show with mostly non-scientists who think they are doing science by using the word "investigation."

I generally agree with Universe going too popular, but I kind of enjoyed their latest episode on the future of the universe. Since many of these things will never be able to be experimentally verified and remain theoretical, they might as well do it in an entertaining way. Alex F. is kind of interesting, he is bright and enthusiastic ; Michio K. seems kind of kooky to me also.

UFO Hunters: absolute nonsense. The conversations I hear between the "scientists" on that show are really lame. What "scholarly" journal do they publish their findings in? probably a UFO mag.
For example, remember the one about Rendelshom air force base in England? The officers who saw those lights, saw them from a distance. Again, with all these lights, why is there no detailed description of a spacecraft (other than some vague shape like cigar or triangular)? Are they making this up? Or are they seeing something mundane? (Probably). Did UFO hunter team clear this all up? No way.

[Brad_Smith]

I agree with a previous poster about "The Universe." It seems to be running out of ideas, and I think an additional problem are the scientists they are using. While I am sure they are genial and bright people, Alex Filippenko's Roy Orbison routine was totally distracting (you're not a rock star, please take off the sunglasses) and Michio Kako just seems....kooky.

As for "UFO Hunters," ugh. Another stupid show with mostly non-scientists who think they are doing science by using the word "investigation."

Yes. I find it annoying when "non-scientists" like James Randi shoot off their mouths about things they know nothing about.

[Elian Gonzales]

Yes. I find it annoying when "non-scientists" like James Randi shoot off their mouths about things they know nothing about.

Is James Randi even on this show? I don't recall seeing him, and he's certainly not one of the hosts, who are the intended inference.