Miley Cyrus Investigation

[NEOWatcher]

Yes; oversensationalized headlilne... media does it to me, I finally get to do it to someone else. At least I'm admitting it.

Hannah Montana ticket investigation (http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=75332)


Now, the Arkansas Attorney General's office is collecting information for an investigation into why these tickets have sold so fast.

Ok; bots are possible, but so are a few more factors.
- Popularity (Disney, Hype, peer pressure, etc)
- Parents doing what they can to please their spoiled kids
- Online ability, allowing thousands of tickets to be purchased concurrantly.
- Relatively inexpensive tickets (at least compared to other popular artists)

[Fazor]

Ooo! Can I report your thread to the "Slow News Day" thread? :) J/k

I'm a Foo-Fighter's fan...they've had multiple shows recently that sold out the first day that tickets were available, and they're just another band in the crowded popular-rock genre (don't get me wrong, I love them).

Change the attraction to a Disney-endoresed telivison pop-star with a legion of child-fans and it's not really suprising that a show would sell out quickly.

Personally, I'd rather sit through a day-long Billy Ray concert-fest than have to sit through a "Hanna" concert (and no, not particularly a fan of Billy Ray). All the over-acting only-popular-because-they-tell-kids-to-like-it star drives me nuts...unfortunately my g/f loves those shows despite the fact that she's nearly two-decades older than the target audience. :-P

[NEOWatcher]

Ooo! Can I report your thread to the "Slow News Day" thread?...
I did give that some thought, but it's the investigation that I find absurd, and not the fact that they are reporting it.

[SeanF]

Four minutes? Miss Cyrus needs to try harder (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071001/ennew_afp/entertainmentbritainmusicspicegirlstickets).

:rolleyes:

[R.A.F.]

It's no "secret" that ticket outlets (they used to be called "scalpers") are buying tickets to resell and they are over-inflating the prices as much as they "think" the market will allow.

That's the "story" here...not that they sold out fast, but how much they are being resold for.

[mike alexander]

Hannah Montana?

[Maksutov]

Hannah Montana...

Any relation to Wildhack?

I might be interested...

[KaiYeves]

She's okay. I watch her show sometimes, but only when nothing else is on. I find the secret identity dynamic to be interesting. The idea of "famous anonymity" is very engaging.

Miley Cyrus is Hannah Montana? Ha, next you'll be telling me that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. Man, we get some real nuts on this board... ;-)

[NEOWatcher]

More hannah controversy.

Hannah Montana Concert Body Double (http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5447383&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1)


Video posted on YouTube claims to catch a Hannah Montana body double on stage.
A label spokesperson for Cyrus confirmed to OK! Magazine in a statement that she does briefly use a body double in order to make a costume change.
So? whats the issue?

I think it's just a way to air a bootleg section of the video. The body switch is about 2-1/2 minutes in.

[01101001]

Even more shocking: Hannah Montana is not a real person, just a character played by Miley Stewart -- I mean Miley Cyrus.

Shh. Don't tell any tweeners.

[NEOWatcher]

Even more shocking: Hannah Montana is not a real person, just a character played by Miley Stewart -- I mean Miley Cyrus.

Shh. Don't tell any tweeners.
It goes even deeper than that:cool:... Her name isn't even Miley. Her nickname was Smiley which eventually became Miley. :eek:

[Jim]

The young lady is from all reports a true class act. She broke the record for tickets at last year's Houston Live Stock Show and Rodeo (73,000 for one performance), and is scheduled back this year.

More: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/moms/5435038.html

[Matherly]

Personally, I'd rather sit through a day-long Billy Ray concert-fest than have to sit through a "Hanna" concert


You can torture me
With Donnie & Marie
You can play some Barry Manilow
Or you can play some schlock
Like New Kids on the Block
Or any Village People song you know
Or play Vanilla Ice
Hey, you can play him twice
And you can play the Bee Gees any day
But mr. DJ, please
Im beggin on my knees
I just cant take no more of Billy Ray

Dont play that song
That achy breaky song
The most annoying song I know
And if you play that song
That achy breaky song
I might blow up my radio, ooo...

'Nuff Said

[novaderrik]

Ooo! Can I report your thread to the "Slow News Day" thread? :) J/k

I'm a Foo-Fighter's fan...they've had multiple shows recently that sold out the first day that tickets were available, and they're just another band in the crowded popular-rock genre (don't get me wrong, I love them).

Change the attraction to a Disney-endoresed telivison pop-star with a legion of child-fans and it's not really suprising that a show would sell out quickly.

Personally, I'd rather sit through a day-long Billy Ray concert-fest than have to sit through a "Hanna" concert (and no, not particularly a fan of Billy Ray). All the over-acting only-popular-because-they-tell-kids-to-like-it star drives me nuts...unfortunately my g/f loves those shows despite the fact that she's nearly two-decades older than the target audience. :-P
big deal.. back in '99, i stood in line for 6 hours in 20 degree windy late November Minnesota weather for tickets to one of the 2 Metallica/Kid Rock/Sevendust concerts in minneapolis in January of '00. BOTH shows were sold out in about 15 minutes.
a few days later, they added a third show, and i stayed home and got tickets thru www.Ticketmaster.com in the 10 minute time frame before they sold out. there wasn't any investigation, but it did get mentioned on the news that it set some kind of a record for selling out fastest- the Target Center holds something like 25,000 for "in the round" concerts, and they sold that out 3 times in a total period of under 1/2 hour.

[Maksutov]

The young lady is from all reports a true class act. She broke the record for tickets at last year's Houston Live Stock Show and Rodeo (73,000 for one performance), and is scheduled back this year....Did she get a blue ribbon for her category?

[Abbadon_2008]

Until Ms. Cyrus turns 18, I won't even discuss 'investigating' her in anyway.:whistle:

Besides, Billy Ray would kill me.:(

[publius]

I had heard the name/term "Hannah Montana" mentioned before, but I had no clue what it was. This thread made me look that up.

I'm not happy. That information is wasting brain cells. And making me mad that parents go to such extremes to sastify a bunch of spoiled brat "tweens".

They had an essay contest to give away tickets to some of this flatulence, and a mother allowed and encouraged her daughter to make up a story about her father being killed in Iraq to gain sympathy. She won. Then they found out the truth and took away the tickets. The fact that some mother would go those lengths just to let her little brat get to see this crap is just one of those "Stop, world I want to get off" moments.

-Richard

[mike alexander]

Was it part of the rules that the essay had to be true?

[Matherly]

I'm not happy. That information is wasting brain cells. And making me mad that parents go to such extremes to sastify a bunch of spoiled brat "tweens".

:confused:

A bunch of 20ish year-olds are wanting these tickets?

(Dammit, Professor Tolkien coined this term back in the fifties for twenty year olds and I refuse to use the new "hip" meaning :evil:)

[sarongsong]

...But mr. DJ, please
Im beggin on my knees
I just cant take no more of Billy Ray...'Nuff Said...and that was probably written before Ray's dumbfounding thespian "skills" went on display in the HM Show! http://www.bautforum.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[novaderrik]

...and that was probably written before Ray's dumbfounding thespian "skills" went on display in the HM Show! http://www.bautforum.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

and WAAAY before his stint on Dancing with the Stars..

[sarongsong]

Ooh---missed that 'Mr. Triple-threat' performance entirely!
Is there a Mrs. Cyrus anywhere?---Don't recall hearing anything about her.

[Maksutov]

Until Ms. Cyrus turns 18, I won't even discuss 'investigating' her in anyway.:whistle:

Besides, Billy Ray would kill me.:(Hey, I know who Billy Ray Cyrus is. He was the narrator for this The History Channel program (http://www.bautforum.com/small-media-large/67421-fun-history-channel-2.html#post1152236).

If Billy Ray were metric, would his daughter be Kilometery Cyrus?

At least he's bringing back ancient Egyptian religion. During the concert segment of the referenced THC show, I could swear I heard some of the females in the crowd moaning "Oh, Cyrus!"

[sarongsong]

Hurry! :)
Concert: Billy Ray Cyrus
Date: Saturday, January 19th, 2008
Time: 8:00 PM
Price: $30 & $40...
Harrah's (San Diego) (http://www.harrahs.com/EventsDetail.do?locationCode=RIN&detailName=billy-ray-cyrus-detail&eventTitle=Billy%20Ray%20Cyrus#upcoming)

[NEOWatcher]

OMG :eek:

This time she's gone way over the edge. Most young stars portray the usual sex, drinking, drug use, and general rudeness.

But this time Miley has crossed the line.
Buckle up, Hannah Montana! (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/02/12/people.mileycyrus.ap/index.html)


Miley Cyrus, who plays Hannah Montana on television, is seen in her new movie riding without a seat belt in the back seat of a Range Rover.


Ok; bad move by the directors. But; how often do you see anybody buckle up in movies?

[farmerjumperdon]

I don't think kids parents paying outrageous prices for HM tickets is any different than adults paying outrageous prices for tickets to see acts like McCartney, Streisand, the Superbowl, Final Four, or whatever.

People have different tastes and different tolerance levels. Personally, I'd probably draw the line for a kids show at about $50. Other might think that is even foolish. Obviously, others are willing to pay several hundreds of dollars. I do not think it necessarily equates to being spoiled.

I think what's at work for people making that claim is that everybody should be like them, and have the opinion that HM is worthless. Or maybe just simple jealousy. Or something else; but just because someone can afford and is willing to pay the going market rate for something doesn't make them spoiled.

I think to support that a person would have to take a statistically valid sample of kids who wanted to go, but did not because there parents weren'y willing to pay; then demonstrate that they hold some kind of resentment towards their parents about it. Or maybe some sort of study on those that did go on what kind of implications they would percieve had they not been allowed to go. Without some sort of deeper look, the assumption that anybody who goes or wants to go is a spoiled brat is more telling of the person making the statement than anything.

[Jim]

OMG :eek:

This time she's gone way over the edge. Most young stars portray the usual sex, drinking, drug use, and general rudeness.

But this time Miley has crossed the line.
Buckle up, Hannah Montana! (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/02/12/people.mileycyrus.ap/index.html)


Her father was in the back seat with her, also sans seat belt. Bad example, Billy Ray.

However, most states that have seat belt laws limit them to very young children and front seat passengers. So, they might have been legal.

[NEOWatcher]

However, most states that have seat belt laws limit them to very young children and front seat passengers. So, they might have been legal.
I was thinking the same thing, but even here, that law keeps changing enough that it's hard to know for sure.

How many movies also have minors actually drive a vehicle?

[sarongsong]

...they might have been legal.OK if they were in their home state:
Tennessee...16+ years in front seat...
2008 Safety Belt Use Laws (http://www.iihs.org/laws/SafetyBeltUse.aspx)

[Gillianren]

However, most states that have seat belt laws limit them to very young children and front seat passengers. So, they might have been legal.

Not here, they wouldn't be.

I'd have to stop and think about other people in movies and seatbelts. Unfortunately, the movie I'm currently watching is set in the 1940s, so that's no help, and one of the other movies I've got lined up for today is Cyrano de Bergerac, so that's even less help. I'll keep an eye out, though, now it's been mentioned.

[NEOWatcher]

...I'll keep an eye out, though, now it's been mentioned.
Do limousines and taxis count?

[ToSeek]

Not here, they wouldn't be.

I'd have to stop and think about other people in movies and seatbelts. Unfortunately, the movie I'm currently watching is set in the 1940s, so that's no help, and one of the other movies I've got lined up for today is Cyrano de Bergerac, so that's even less help. I'll keep an eye out, though, now it's been mentioned.

I remember that the 60's Batman got a commendation from some highway safety organization for promoting seat belt usage on the show.

[Kaptain K]

When was the last time you saw an on-screen car with an inside rear view mirror?

[novaderrik]

people get so worked up over seatbelts.. it almost reaches the point of insanity sometimes... a good example was a couple of years back. GW Bush was driving a pickup truck (all by himself- they grow up so fast) on his ranch in Texas when he was "clearing some brush" for the cameras...but- gasp- he wasn't wearing a seatbelt. the main stream media jumped all over it, all the seatbelt activist groups condemned him for it, and made a point of bringing out all the seatbelt statistics whenever a camera from a news network was pointing at them.. all because the president was driving around at about 5mph ON HIS PRIVATE PROPERTY without his seatbelt securely fastened. i think his office not only released a statement saying how wrong he was, but i think he also mentioned it in a few speeches...

[Gillianren]

Do limousines and taxis count?

Not by my standards. Actually, I read somewhere that most cabs keep the backseat seatbelts hidden, though I don't remember why. And I can definitively report that Danger Mouse and Penfold do not wear their seatbelts, which you would think would be more important in a flying car.

[NEOWatcher]

...which you would think would be more important in a flying car.
If I recall correctly, Marty and Doc Brown didn't wear one either. (although Einstein did, but that was before it flew).

[NEOWatcher]

people get so worked up over seatbelts.. it almost reaches the point of insanity sometimes...
The same her with the included statistics...

The magazine says 65 percent of the 13- to 15-year-olds killed in auto accidents in 2006 were not wearing seat belts.
Ok, fine.
How many is that?
How many of the 65% were in the back seat?
How many of the 65% would have actually been saved if they were wearing there seatbelts (as opposed to being so severe it doesn't even matter)

How do you distinguish this statement from "65% of teens don't wear seat belts"?

[farmerjumperdon]

You folks aren't actually trying to pooh-pooh the use of seat belts are you?

Sure the Bush incident as described was silly; but tooling down the road without a belt on is just not very smart. A couple crash test videos is all a person needs to prove that point.

[NEOWatcher]

You folks aren't actually trying to pooh-pooh the use of seat belts are you?
No, not at all. In fact, I feel odd without one in the car.

It's the story, hype, big deal, oversensationalism, and useless or out of context facts that stories like this bring.


... but tooling down the road without a belt on is just not very smart.
Absolutely. But compare it to the really stupid things that people do, and even some that hit the news as "hey, look, cool". Then this story is completely absurd.

[Kaptain K]

My how values change within a human lifetime!
When I was young (1950s) seat belts not only weren't offered, even as an option, but they had negative connotations! Only race car drivers (and not all of those) wore seat belts Therefore, anybody who put them in a street car, it was assumed, planned to speed! The first car I rode in that had seat belts was a 1960 station wagon. It didn't come with them, Dad had the local mechanic install them.

[NEOWatcher]

My how values change within a human lifetime!
I wouldn't place all the change on just values (not that I would discount that either). You also have BIG changes in the cars themselves, and some change in traffic, and the ratios of types of driving. In other words, we are no longer driving big tanks on boulevards and sidestreets, with only an occasional thought of using a highway.

[Jim]

It's the story, hype, big deal, oversensationalism, and useless or out of context facts that stories like this bring.

Add to that how the tone of the article places all the "blame" for this bad example on Billy Ray and Miley Ray (she legally changed her name) without mentioning that most state seat belt laws allow them to do just what they are doing! If it's such a big deal that these two should set an example, isn't it even a bigger deal that state legislators should change their laws?

But, of course, very few state legislators have the "news appeal" of a pop star. I leave it to the reader to decide if this is a good thing or a bad thing.

[sarongsong]

...Consumer Reports magazine says...Miley Cyrus...in her new movie riding without a seat belt...:doh: Having difficulty picturing staid and serious CR attending a teenie-bopper movie...

[NEOWatcher]

:doh: Having difficulty picturing staid and serious CR attending a teenie-bopper movie...
Good point.
Wouldn't CR have to compare it to other movies, rate thier portrayal of safety, and give those little black and red circles?
So; does Miley get a solid black circle or a solid red one, or one for each earlobe?

[NEOWatcher]

There are actually celebrity look-alikes that pose to impersonate them and have pictures on the web-thingy. :eek::rolleyes:
Take your pick: Fox (http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=6363647&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1) or ABC (http://www.newsnet5.com/entertainment/15954379/detail.html)
It doesn't matter since they are the exact same AP article anyway.



The upcoming "Hannah Montana" movie will be...

Oops, that explains it.

[SeanF]

Hey, for those who actually watch "Hannah Montana" (and aren't color-blind like yours truly), does her disguise include colored contact lenses, or is it just the wig?

I ask because my four-year daughter identified a picture in the TV listings last week as being "Miley Cyrus." When I asked her if she was sure it wasn't Hannah Montana, and how she knew it wasn't Hannah Montana, she indicated the eyes - said nothing about the hair.

[Doodler]

People who need examples set for them deserve what they get for being lemmings.

[Musashi]

Hey, for those who actually watch "Hannah Montana" (and aren't color-blind like yours truly), does her disguise include colored contact lenses, or is it just the wig?

I ask because my four-year daughter identified a picture in the TV listings last week as being "Miley Cyrus." When I asked her if she was sure it wasn't Hannah Montana, and how she knew it wasn't Hannah Montana, she indicated the eyes - said nothing about the hair.


Did a quick look on Google and it appears that she has blue eyes in both configurations.

[KaiYeves]

I kind of like the whole "idea" of Hannah Montana, although I don't like the show or her music very much.
Why? Because I find the whole "idea" of "famous yet anonymous" very interesting. You can do all your good, and nobody will tell mean jokes about you. (Like the one about a certain environmentalist being sad because his birthday cake was melting)