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suntrack2
2007-Apr-19, 05:30 PM
In the world of nanotechnology upcoming, would it be possible to place the nano sattelites in the space in the near future, so that its cost of loading on the launching shuttle will be minimize, what do you think that will it come in the field of "nano". if it happens later so every individual country on the earth can place thousands of such sattelite in the space, and what will be the benefit through this sort of sattelites?

NEOWatcher
2007-Apr-19, 05:34 PM
Funny you should ask that....
This thread (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=57492) has just the answer.

suntrack2
2007-Apr-19, 05:42 PM
really neowather there is resemblance in the both, even I don't know how miraculously I will find my answer, thanks for showing the direct answer in different form. :)

sunil

Ronald Brak
2007-Apr-19, 05:52 PM
If you can make something lighter that does the same job you save money on launching costs so basically you could do more of what satellites do now.

In addition, if you had enough of them they could be used for weather control. They could reduce insolation to some areas and increase it to others. This might make it possible to reduce the strength of hurricanes and storms.

If nanotechnology advances enough space junk could become a valuable as a source of material for nanosatellites.

Nanosatellites might have to be constantly tacking against light pressure to maintain their orbital position. Alternatively those that are lost could be simply replaced.

They could also be used for art display and advertising. Imagine watching a beautiful sunset with your lover, arm around his shoulder, when suddenly the words, "Drink Coca-Cola" appear stretching from horizon to horizon. Isn't that romantic? Or possibly the words, "Obey! - The nanosatellites are watching you!"

NEOWatcher
2007-Apr-19, 05:56 PM
If you can make...
And I lightly read the comments that follow me down the path with rose colored glasses when... Wham

They could also be used for aet display and advertising.
Realism sets in, because this would probalby be the first application.:evil:

suntrack2
2007-Apr-19, 05:59 PM
If you can make something lighter that does the same job you save money on launching costs so basically you could do more of what satellites do now.

In addition, if you had enough of them they could be used for weather control. They could reduce insolation to some areas and increase it to others. This might make it possible to reduce the strength of hurricanes and storms.

If nanotechnology advances enough space junk could become a valuable as a source of material for nanosatellites.

Nanosatellites might have to be constantly tacking against light pressure to maintain their orbital position. Alternatively those that are lost could be simply replaced.

They could also be used for aet display and advertising. Imagine watching a beautiful sunset with your lover, arm around his shoulder, when suddenly the words, "Drink Coca-Cola" appear stretching from horizon to horizon. Isn't that romantic? Or possibly the words, "Obey! - The nanosatellites are watching you!"

:) interesting Ronald, I like it. now tell me which country has already launch a "nano sattelite into the orbit" ?

even a long gun shape pipe with a high pressure is sufficient to eject the sattelite into the orbit by seating in the aeroplane ?

sunil

Ronald Brak
2007-Apr-19, 06:15 PM
interesting Ronald, I like it. now tell me which country has already launch a "nano sattelite into the orbit" ?

None that I know of, although modern electronics are starting to use nanoscale components. (Under 100 nanometers.)


even a long gun shape pipe with a high pressure is sufficient to eject the sattelite into the orbit by seating in the aeroplane ?

Well, not at the moment. But maybe a high altitude plane with some sort of rail gun or something could manage to shoot stuff into orbit. To put a bullet into orbit you'd need a gun that could fire a projectile with about 12 times more velocity than a high power rifle. (Weapon experts will soon arrive in thread to correct me on this.) And that's ignoring air resistance which will still be a considerable problem even when fireing from a high altitude plane. But there is no real reason why it couldn't work.

mugaliens
2007-Apr-19, 06:17 PM
One of the issues with nano satellites is atmospheric drag.

Many don't realize that Earth's atmosphere extends more than halfway to the Moon in measurable amounts. Yes, it's very tenuous. However, while a one ton satellite might remain in geosynchronous orbit for decades without any appreciable decay, a nano-satellite would, in several months, eat up it's weight in fuel trying to remain on station.

Still, the lighter the guts of the satellite, the lighter the total satellite will have to be to remain in any particular orbit for any given time.

Ronald Brak
2007-Apr-19, 06:24 PM
I imagine a nanosatellite could try to keep its orbit by acting as a tiny solar sail but I don't know how high up it would have to be for that to be effective.

suntrack2
2007-Apr-20, 05:36 PM
Ronald very interesting, just for the sake if I am standing on the top of the ISS so will it be possible to throw away some number of nano sattelite in the orbit, and make the path of number of nano sattelites when the ISS goes forward in the cyclic way, so the ring will appear of nanosattelites? and what about nanosensors? or nano sattelites are sufficient to involve the role of sensors?

sunil

Ronald Brak
2007-Apr-20, 07:17 PM
Ronald very interesting, just for the sake if I am standing on the top of the ISS so will it be possible to throw away some number of nano sattelite in the orbit, and make the path of number of nano sattelites when the ISS goes forward in the cyclic way, so the ring will appear of nanosattelites? and what about nanosensors? or nano sattelites are sufficient to involve the role of sensors?

If you wanted to you could scatter nanosattelites from the ISS. However NASA might regard them as an impact hazard and the ISS is pretty low and has to frequently boost to a higher orbit, so the nanosatellites probably wouldn't last too long.

Sensors depend upon what's built into them. For example each nanosatellite could have a tiny camera, each one with lousy resolution, but many at once could be used to produce a better picture in a similar way to how your brain combines images from two eyes.

suntrack2
2007-Apr-21, 09:10 AM
oh, that's correct. the nano technology was came into light in 1970 by the student of massachusets institute of technology, since 1970-to 2007 is a wide gap, but still the nano concept is not precisely activated yet, but in medical section, we are watching and reading about the tiny camera or a chip which found useful in the inner body dignosis as well. I think if the nano technology use in the computers then its overall speed and performance will be increase, because in the same box we can fix a large number of ic's into it. Do you think that the next ten years will be more impacted with the nanotechnology instruments, even nano carbon tubes are found more useful.

will it be possible by binding into the balloon "the nano sensors and other micro electronics devices can be drop on the moon too?

Warren Platts
2007-Apr-21, 11:28 AM
There might not yet be nano-satellites; but there might already be mini- or micro-satellites that are too small to be picked up on conventional radar, and that are now being used as antisatellite weapons: CENSORED (CENSORED)

Ronald Brak
2007-Apr-21, 11:41 AM
There might not yet be nano-satellites; but there might arleady be mini- or micro-satellites that are too small to be picked up on conventional radar, and that are now being used as antisatellite weapons: Russian Experts Say U.S. Destroyed Russian Research Satellite

Oh look! The advertising on the linked to site says it can find bootylicious babes for me. I wonder what they are? Judgeing from the picture they must be poverty stricken women who can't afford proper clothing.

Anyway, after the Pentagon reads the article hopefully they will work out that testing secret weapons on other people's satellites probably isn't the best way to keep them secret. That is, if they are not distracted by the plight of the bootylicious babes.

Warren Platts
2007-Apr-21, 12:03 PM
Sorry--I realize that many with tender sensibilities read these threads. So here's a link to an American site with the same article: Russian Experts Say US Destroyed Russian Research Satellite (http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/tech/Russian_Experts_Say_US_Destroyed_Russian_Research_ Satellite140011295.php)

Warren Platts
2007-Apr-21, 12:42 PM
. . .
Anyway, after the Pentagon reads the article hopefully they will work out that testing secret weapons on other people's satellites probably isn't the best way to keep them secret.
That's because we don't want to keep it a secret anymore. :clap: Putting out a press release would just be admitting that we are violating the ban against weapons in space.

This way, they know we did it, and we know we did it, but they can't prove that we did it, so we maintain deniability while at the same time getting the message across to anyone contemplating taking out any of our satellites that we are miles ahead of them in that game. :D

Ronald Brak
2007-Apr-21, 01:02 PM
That's because we don't want to keep it a secret anymore. Putting out a press release would just be admitting that we are violating the ban against weapons in space.

This way, they know we did it, and we know we did it, but they can't prove that we did it, so we maintain deniability while at the same time getting the message across to anyone contemplating taking out any of our satellites that we are miles ahead of them in that game.

Now that's smart thinking. Please excuse me while I go and put sugar in my neighbor's fuel tank so he'll realize I'm not to be messed with.

suntrack2
2007-Apr-21, 05:16 PM
Now that's smart thinking. Please excuse me while I go and put sugar in my neighbor's fuel tank so he'll realize I'm not to be messed with.

but the sugar may be a catalist in jamming the engine, Ronald!. :) sugar granuels are also in nano form.

mugaliens
2007-Apr-21, 07:47 PM
Now that's smart thinking. Please excuse me while I go and put sugar in my neighbor's fuel tank so he'll realize I'm not to be messed with.

Ok... Want me to start making arrangements?